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Every time I post, it's in response to something immoral that's being said about Jews and Zionism.

Example; posts stating that Israel(Jews) stole land and homes by force and that Israel(Jews) should not defend it's citizens, (citizens that include Muslims) when repeatedly attacked. Also statements that Jews have no ancestral ties, and have no right to be there.

So,no clearer statement of something TRULY immoral, anti Semitism....

To support Israel is hardly immoral...
Therefore, not sure you know the definition of immoral.
" Nov 29, 15 6:33 PM

UPDATE: Southampton Town Councilman Brad Bender Pleaded Guilty On Drug Charges And Resigns, Facing Up To 20 Years In Prison

Hahahaha boo-boo, coming from someone that cant comprehend that THOUGHTS turn into ACTIONS....

Drug addicts and people that enjoy having sex with kids... what's next ....

" Dec 1, 15 8:52 PM

No,I'm just noticing a theme, that's all.
That would be you,off topic.
Now I understand why you Support Hillary. The Jews will not be able to continue to "run" the country WITH the Muslim Brotherhood in charge......

I'm not the first person to bring up your (spin) defense of Jay Sears. Only the intellectually challenged left wing would NOT see the similarities between the crimes.

It takes a "special" person to be so flippant about drug use and abuse of political power (Bender) and child pornography (Sears)

But since YOU decided to transfer the topic, back to anti Semitism let me remind you, that just as abusing drugs and a political position (Bender) and fantasizing about sex with children (Sears) is indefensible, so is anti-Semitism

I never said Bender had sex with kids. So I hope that adding their names next to their crimes clears up the confusion.

" Dec 2, 15 4:06 PM

American as apple pie ...
Good one !!
I needed a good laugh, thanks !!!!!" Dec 3, 15 9:05 PM

Hey Mr.Z , are you aware I was referring to your comment? Did you forget your post ? So not quite sure what you're laughing at. I don't find innocent people dying funny.
Oh and most "all American" young men don't leave the country to become radicalized and then look to marry a woman that's proficient with assault rifles . But I'm sure he loved apple pie. Maybe she made a mean apple pie as well.....
And I guess terrorism got to the poor souls in San Bernardino before bad weather could...
" Dec 4, 15 1:39 PM

Well did you expect another type of statement?

No Mr.Z ,I don't feel better, I feel horrible. I feel the way I did on, and after 9/11. I feel bad for the people that were gunned down in San Bernardino ,just because they are Westerners. I feel that political correctness will kill us. Yes bad people passed through Ellis Island, but the majority wanted to assimilate not conquer.

Wow two Muslims spoke out.

In the words of Bridgett Gabriel, the peaceful majority are irrelevant.

Where are all the Muslims that were "around" Syed Farook? You know the ones praying and living with him.?
The only one who spoke up too late(because of political correctness) was the person "around" him a lot, his neighbor. The one who saw him every day. The one that saw something unusual but didn't want to be labeled a racist. Political correctness killed 14 people in my opinion.

I'm sorry but a certain amount of profiling will occur when the MAJORITY of terrorist acts are committed by one specific group.
Are terrorist acts committed in the name of other religions ? Yes.
However the majority are not committed in the name of God/Jesus.

The first sentence in Peter Kings comment is accurate. Your point ?
And the GOALS of this specific group IS a threat to our society...duh.

Another threat to our society...Brad Bender dealing drugs.

" Dec 4, 15 8:32 PM

Ah yes, another flippant comment about innocent people dying because of terrorism. They SHOULD make a movie. But remember moviemakers, don't insult Islam.

People,go on line and type in the following : American Thinker who is Allah...

And for some more interesting quotes by P.J. O'Rourke :

At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child-- miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding , ill disciplined despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats.....

Global warming- a fashionable worry....

There's a certain kind of behavior in the Arab world that , to me , resembles the way young men behave when there is no significant influence from women in their lives......

So maybe your theory is correct Z. No terror perpetrated in San Bernardino...
Maybe this is what really happened.....

Wifey messed up the apple pie ( she was too busy playing with assault rifles and less time perfecting her cooking skills) and Hubby was REALLY upset and went off the deep end. Because he's been hitting the gym , trying to bulk up, but it wasn't working so he resorted to steroids so it wasn't terrorism it was ROID RAGE over a bad apple pie !!!

So how sad for the poor souls in San Bernardino.. Killed because of steroids and a dessert that did not originate in America.....

Wow I'm glad we cleared that up !!! What a big misunderstanding !!!

" Dec 5, 15 10:08 AM

Classic EXCUSE that liberals use.
Question, was the gun toting NRA lover, toting his gun on 12/2/2015 ? Because that probably could have saved some lives.
Here comes the" blame the gun" excuse.

Farook became radicalized.
Had a STOCKPILE of weapons.
Of course his family is going to say he was "teased" ...Give me a break. This was not "workplace bullying". If Farook had an issue with only one person, why didn't he just go after that person..? Oh because he's crazy ?
No that's not the "story" behind the shooting .Jihad. That's the STORY and the ONLY story behind the shooting.

Oh and you left part of the story out. The part where Nicholas Thalasinos was Jewish and outspoken against Islamic Terrorism. So once again a Jew defends himself and Israel, and a Muslim wont accept that one bit !!

Oh so only one basic rule of WAR...? Well that's encouraging, that you're acknowledging that this is indeed WAR. War on the American way of life. Hi Europe, how are you .....oh never mind it's too late.

Here's WHY we are at war ....Because as far Muslims are concerned , Americans can have their "free" speech. As long as we do not use it pertaining to Muslims. Americans can have their generic "holidays" as long as it doesn't offend Muslims. Right don't paint that target people...BOW DOWN .....

And 14 not 13 people died. Because they were AMERICANS.
" Dec 6, 15 9:30 PM

No I'm not the one with the deficiencies.
And there's a difference between posting on Facebook and physically shooting people . Again why not go after that one person ?
I'm pretty sure you're the one lacking in many areas." Dec 6, 15 9:51 PM

To understand what this is truly about, please read the following article.

Citizen warrior concessions are the establishment of Sharia Law.

" Dec 7, 15 12:28 PM

Muslims have been trying ,and unfortunately succeeding in some cases,to conquer since the 7th century. Remember the word conquer. They did not want to COEXIST. Ever.

They were not known as ISIS,ISIL,DAESH etc... What they were then, is the same thing that they are now ,Muslims. Nothing changed.

The problem now, is that non Muslims believe that there are two very different types of Muslims. Very GOOD Muslims and Very BAD Muslims. This is what causes confusion. All Muslims have the same goal. The difference is how the "good" try to reach the goal versus how the "bad" try to reach the SAME GOAL. Still it's a bad goal for Americans, no matter how it's reached.

It's called Taqiyya: Lie to the non believer to further your GOAL of Islam/Sharia Law. Moderates are just sleepers waiting for instructions. To the people that REFUSE to believe / accept this truth, good luck.

Americans need to wake up, lose the arrogance that "we've got this under control'. And understand that our way of AMERICAN life is slowly slipping right through our fingers. All because of political correctness and the erosion of free speech.

There is a SIGNIFICANT difference between the people that passed through Ellis Island 123 years ago, truly yearning to be free, and people coming here ,ready to change rules and KILL when they don't get their way or because they have hurt feelings. It's called to CONQUER ....

And now that Farook's father stated that his son was "obsessed" with Israel, maybe just maybe , Farook started the fight. Just the way many Muslims attacked Jews and Israel time and time again.Muslims are always shocked when Jews fight back. This time unfortunately a Muslim did win. But this time it happened on AMERICAN soil not Israeli.

Bottom line is Islam is constantly portrayed as a peaceful religion, while being responsible for the majority of terror attacks around the world .

" Dec 8, 15 1:17 PM

To Nature:
Unfortunately many horrific crimes were committed in the name of religion. Many people believe going to confession will absolve them of all sins. That doesn't make it right and I'm not excusing it.
What I'm stating is the majority of terror attacks are perpetrated by Muslims. And that most Muslims have the same basic goal.

I find it ironic that you mention the Crusades. Do you know what prompted them ?

You say condemn. Well then yes, I disagree with what the Koran states. I also disagree with Sharia Law.

Hurt a Muslims feelings and there are two consequences:
1. Death
2. Concessions

You may have misunderstood my "then and now" comment. I'm stating that no matter the "title" the issue is, the perpetrators are all Muslim and have the same goal. Yes even "moderate" Muslims.

No incorrect yet again. Once again vicious libel about Israel and Jews. Completely unaware of real issues and current events.

I'm stating facts about terror attacks occurring on AMERICAN soil. I'm not discussing Israel's policies. And yes the information about Farook's "obsession" with Israel definitely sheds new light on the story.

And once again everything I posted is a fact:

1. Muslims have always targeted and attacked Jews.
2. Muslims are shocked when they lose.
3. Israel /Jews are condemned for defending ALL citizens.
4. This time it happened on AMERICAN soil.

Oh and Jews don't proselytize. In fact ,it's a Rabbi's job to dissuade a person that wishes to convert. Also Jews believe, no matter a persons religion, if that person is righteous, he or she will get into heaven.
Just a little bit of a contrast as to how Muslims feel about non-Muslims.....

And the same question for you, do you know what prompted the Crusades?

I'm not debating interpretations of religion or economics. I'm stating that most Muslims live by a different code. A code that does not mesh well with the American way of life.

How should "we" treat modern day Jews? The real question is how DO we. I certainly know your true feelings..
Here's a better question. How do "modern day" Muslims treat Muslim women? How do "modern day Muslim refugees" treat non- Muslim European women?

What's truly tedious, and to be honest foolish, is the political correctness that turns people into cowards.

And you can apply the last sentence in your post, to yourself. Just replace Islamophobic Obsession with anti Semitism.

" Dec 10, 15 7:31 PM

Sorry, wrong again.
And I see you still do not understand what is happening in the world around you. You cant get past anti Semitism for one moment to notice that it's not just Jews getting slaughtered, Christians are dying as well. And on American soil.
And there's really no comparison between the way Jews and Muslims "behave" in America. And sorry ,I don't see how Sharia will mesh with Judeo Christian values.....not to mention the constitution.

I never said Jews are perfect. I never suggested that Jews haven't committed any crimes. It's never good when people have to take " drastic measures" to accomplish anything, but sometimes that's the last resort.

So the inscription on his tomb offends you ? Here's something that should make you feel better.
There's a street in Ramallah named after Yahya Ayyash, who was responsible for numerous terror attacks that killed Jews in the 1990's.

Dr. Goldstein moved to Israel to help people and support the state. While there ,he saved the lives of Jews AND Arabs. He saved the lives of people that killed Jews.

If anyone is interested in another side of Dr. Goldstein's story, please go on line and type in the following : Jewish Press I was Baruch Goldstein's friend.

I wonder, why did Farook go to Saudi Arabia and marry a woman that supported terrorism ?
There's a difference between leaving America to support a country that you have religious ties to, and leaving America, picking up some new "skills" in another country and returning with the middle eastern Annie Oakley. Oh and killing a bunch of Americans. Because of "hurt feelings"... Right....

Muslims determine how they are treated based on their actions .
Jews are not coming to America, complaining about how they're
treated ,wanting to change laws and gunning people down because someone said something offensive. If a Jew gunned down every person that said "Jew em down"..... Well you should get the idea, but you wont. No ,Jews do not claim to be exceptional. They've been trying to COEXIST since 1947.

" Dec 12, 15 6:35 PM

I was being facetious. I'm sure you love the epitaph, just as much as I love the street in Ramallah named after a terrorist. I love it because it validates everything I've said about Muslims attitudes towards Jews.

Jews do not believe that they are exceptional. And again Jews treat Arabs better than Arabs treat Arabs.

You cant compare Jews to Muslims when it comes to obeying anything ,especially social, legal and most of all moral.

I guess you forgot about the times land was returned, and all the peace that followed....

The most important FACT you keep forgetting is this:
The ENTIRE conflict is not about land , it's about religion. That and Muslims insisting Israel should not exist..

Clearly you know zero about the Koran, but keep that sharp eye peeled for the one or two bad guys. The "individuals". I'll pay attention to the bigger picture.

Sure don't worry about Sharia. Yes ignorance is bliss. And I wonder, what kind of connection Muslim Brotherhood supporters have to our government ? I wonder if they are" in charge" of anything...I wonder what kind of influence they have...If they aide anyone....

And Lots of Jews are not so fond of Arab "Palestinians" .I'm pretty sure that dislike came to a head on May 14 1948, because things were not so great for about 70 years before that.... Oh and no land was stolen. Still fuzzy on how land was actually acquired I see.

But still, land was returned and still no peace. Right, there's never been any "good faith" on the part of Jews towards Arabs...Hmmm just like when Jews returned land and Arabs still attacked... That kind of good faith ?

The "Palestinians" determine their own treatment. And once again you're quite confused. You seem to forget Hitler had many Arab admirers . These are the people that treated the Jews as untermenschen. Arabs were big fans of the Holocaust , just in case you forgot.

" Dec 14, 15 8:02 PM

That was in response to your comment about my concerns about Sharia and concessions. Something you know little about apparently.

Clearly you have no idea what I'm implying, ever. That's because you cant see past all YOUR bigotry.

And again you have no understanding , whatsoever, that in a religious war religion matters. You have zero understanding about how goals are accomplished , even without terrorism. Clearly you have no idea what a "no go" zone is. Europe is being destroyed.

No I'm not the one shaming Americans ,the people that allow and accept concessions are doing that. Benghazi .... there's a good definition of bringing shame to Americans

Why tell American's to "keep their eyes peeled" ? No one want's to be labeled a bigot or racist. Just ask Farook's neighbor. The one that didn't call the authorities....for fear of being labeled a bigot and a racist.

" Dec 15, 15 7:28 PM

I never said that every Muslim is a terrorist. I said that actual real change is achieved ,not by terror, but by" fake assimilation" then concessions. Then no go zones etc. What exactly is demonstrated "worldwide" ? You clearly have no idea what is happening in Germany, Greece ,Sweden, England.
I'm not the bigot.

And it's what Muslims have done, and continue to do, that will cause their "suppression". The peaceful majority are often irrelevant.

Again comparing how American Jews practice Judaism and follow the constitution to American Muslims and what they believe about Sharia law .So ridiculous.

Don't fear for the Muslims in America, they'll be fine. Because people like Farook's neighbor are too afraid to speak up.

And this fact : According to the FBI Jews not Muslims were the greatest victims of what were considered religious hate crimes in 2014. So nothing new here.

" Dec 16, 15 8:53 PM

No hysteria here. Just stating facts. I guess an eruv is so much more offensive as compared to honor killings.

Well 9/11 arose. Didn't expect that did ya?

Still cant comprehend how thoughts turn into actions. I thought I explained that one...?

Right, the current administration has so much respect for the constitution. Okay whatever you say.....I'll stop connecting our current situation to the MB. I guess I was mistaken.......

Ah yes and you finish by pushing more libel. Not surprised.

There's nothing un American about wanting to protect America. After all isn't joe h just talking about the peaceful majority ? Aren't they the people closest to the "extremists" ? The one's that can warn the rest of America , of an impending attack, even before the FBI.......

" Dec 17, 15 8:11 PM

Muslims civil rights ? Which ones ? The Muslims that behave civilly? You do realize civil rights and Sharia really don't "mesh", especially for women. And quite typical of an anti Semite to ignore what's happening on American soil, push libel and harp on Jews. And to complain about how Jews treat the same people that are killing Americans. Blows my mind.

Israel had no choice but to become what you call a "garrison" state. I think that may have something to do with what happened on 5/14/1948. It's called self defense. And people like Farook will turn this country into a garrison state, not me.
Yes our founding fathers just loved Muslims.

For more info on that subject please read the following on line :

WND Founding fathers rip Obamas Muslim "fabric".
" Dec 18, 15 6:43 PM

Haha the jokes on you. As most rational people know, concessions are the establishment of Sharia law. For the rational people reading this , go on line and type in the following :

Daily signal the real impact of Sharia law in America.

Here are three more great articles :

National report city in Michigan first to fully implement Sharia law.

Creeping Sharia documenting the Islamization of America.

America is my name Sharia is here.

The person most likely to violate a female Muslim in the name of Sharia would be a male Muslim that lives by Sharia law. Fifty-one percent of American Muslims are in favor of Sharia.

I guess you forgot, "Palestinians" are Muslim, ( and don't forget they're really not "Palestinians" they're Jordanians). And a reminder, they could have had a state numerous times in the last 68 years. And don't forget about the Muslim Brotherhood and how they've treated Jews, and the influence they have on our current administration.

And no, "Palestinians" are not being massacred. When they attack, there will be a response. For some reason you do not understand this. It's quite shocking that they have not figured this out in the last 68 years either. And the fact that you use the word massacre is a perfect example of mendacious, extremist propaganda.

Right totalitarian, nothing like Arab states. And I see you're still not clear about how our founding fathers felt about Islam.

Many people posting have attempted to " enlighten" you. Clearly it's not working.

Oh here's one more interesting article:
Clash daily the crusades a direct response to Islam's bloodlust. " Dec 19, 15 2:56 PM

It's unfortunate that I was duped by a fake news story . After some more research I discovered I was not the only one. But here's the funny thing. The story in the National Report is not that far fetched because Michigan has been dubbed the Arab capital of North America. It's really only a matter of time......

Like it or not there is such a thing as creeping Sharia.
And I'll quote from an article in ,Sharia the threat, about Sharia:

" This is not a radical concept in Islam, but a fundamental tenet of the faith"

This is an important concept that people are afraid to accept. Instead, people that are concerned about concessions are called bigots.

Haaretz in English could be considered satirical as well. There is Haaretz in Hebrew and there's the English version. And it's not just the language that makes them different. The Hebrew articles are not just translated , they're basically whitewashed. Usually in the English version, ( which is written AFTER the Hebrew version) original information concerning Palestinian militancy is downplayed or omitted . And in some cases the English account is completely at odds with the original Hebrew version.

And Hamas is to blame for what happens in Gaza. The IDF warns civilians of impending airstrikes. Again if the Arabs could be civil, their children would not die. Arab children die because of Arab adults. For more on this please go to.... Jewish virtual library no peace without compromise. So please stop with the mendacious ,extremist propaganda......

And duh everyone knows Obama is a Muslim

" Dec 21, 15 7:55 PM

I never said Sharia existed in any state. Most of the rational people posting here understand I'm talking about the consequences of concessions.

There is a difference between racist and realist that seems to confuse / elude you ?
How many citations can people provide ? You ignore them all.

To blame the U.S. and Israel for what Arabs do their own children is the true definition of nauseating . I'm sure most rational Americans would choose to support Israel over the Muslim Brotherhood.

You can call me all the names you want and insinuate what you wish. That doesn't change the facts ,and that's all that matters.

" Dec 24, 15 3:44 PM

Anti Semitism
Nothing more " Dec 25, 15 7:34 PM

No omission ,just never ending anti Semitism
" Dec 27, 15 10:17 PM

Anna Throne-Holst Closes Out Six-Year Stint As Supervisor

Cant stop with attacking Jews ever !!
Simply disgusting." Dec 29, 15 10:03 AM

Right , supporting Israel is disloyal......
I guess the definition of loyalty is the connection Hillary has to the Muslim Brotherhood. I wonder how the families of the victims of Benghazi feel about Hillary.
Nah, the Obama administration just loves Israel and would never spy on the country......
And of course why should anyone in America care if Iran blows Israel off the map. It's not like the U.S. would be affected......I mean we can ignore the chanting of "death to America" right..? Those crazy kids with their chanting.....

Like I said just regurgitated anti Semitism." Dec 30, 15 7:36 PM

No misdirection. Just a response to continuous anti Semitism.
Other folks...good one. And nothing is " alleged ", most people are aware of how disloyal Hillary is.
A bit dramatic yet again. Treachery. Give me a break. I didn't say Lee Zeldin was the victim of anti Semitism. I simply stated that the constant attack about his "disloyalty" because he supports Israel is ,anti Semitism. The suggestion that he does not care about America and only focuses on Israel is, anti Semitism.
I guess it would be more acceptable for Zeldin to be a member of CAIR .

The only habitual thing I do is respond to obvious anti Semitism.

Oh and to save the best for last.....

Which moral code should Jews try to emulate ?Muslims perhaps ? Is that "everyone else" ? No, pure racism is incessant anti Semitism.
" Jan 1, 16 8:18 PM

Yes Hillary is a charlatan.
No, land was not stolen. And land is not the reason for the violence.

" Jan 1, 16 8:58 PM

No incorrect again.
Be loyal should be directed to people that support the Muslim Brotherhood.
Nothing was stolen.

I stated, that calling the support of Israel disloyal, is anti Semitism.

And no, it's YOUR prejudice that is blatant. In YOUR profoundly biased view, anyone that speaks the TRUTH about Muslims is an Islamophobe .

Anyone that supports Hillary should be jailed for treason
" Jan 4, 16 6:11 PM

I'm going to guess that you support Israel the way I supported the Ground Zero Mosque.....

Israel told congress what they discovered; the TRUTH about Obama, and what he does in spite of what congress states. Apparently it's ok for Obama to sign treaties he has no authority to sign, but it's treason to tell congress the TRUTH about Obama.... A foreign ally shows us what Obama is really about ! Israel cares more about the United States than Obama ever could !!!!

Obama is conspiring with Iran. Just in case you forgot, Iran is an enemy to both Israel AND the United States. Obama negotiates with people that chant death to Israel AND death to America. I wonder how the hostages in Iran are doing....

Obama's administration spies on many nations. The operation was discovered when US intelligence agencies spying on Israel intercepted communication......Get it?

Israel knows they are doomed if Iran gets a nuclear bomb. They also know America would be next.

It's a known FACT that the Obama administration is THE most hostile administration towards Israel. ISIL anyone ??? The Obama administration is sabotaging the United States, our allies and peace in the Middle East, THIS is the epitome of disloyalty.

There is nothing unusual about the truth I state. It's just that ,the TRUTH.
And there is nothing fanatical about the following...

1. Obama is a Muslim and does not recognize Israel's right to exist.
2. Hillary is a criminal guilty of treason.
" Jan 5, 16 5:34 PM

An example of dementia ,would be the current administrations first thought ,that it was possible to negotiate with a country that chants death to America while burning the American flag.

An example of colluding would be actually "negotiating" with a country that chants death to America while burning the American flag.

It's not treason to be opposed to The Iran deal.

An example of insanity would be thinking "diplomatic efforts" matter when negotiating with a country that chants death to America while burning the American flag." Jan 8, 16 7:36 PM

First thing, it's Biba not bibi, and everyone is entitled to an opinion.
" Jan 9, 16 11:56 PM

Montauk Man Recalls Refugee Rescues On The Shores Of Lesvos

Check this out:

Shoebat Muslims gang rape American woman in Colorado" Jan 18, 16 12:43 PM

Elizabeth Bowser Of Sag Harbor Dies December 17

Very sweet woman !!!
RIP" Jan 25, 16 11:54 AM

Senior Dog Adopted From Southampton Animal Shelter After His Story Goes Viral

I hope his former owners rot in hell" Feb 6, 16 8:49 AM

Guardsman Reunites With Children At Hampton Bays Elementary School

Thank you for your service Damien Capone !!! Welcome home !!
" Feb 12, 16 5:07 PM

Lack Of East End ATV Parks Frustrates Local Riders

First world problems..." Feb 19, 16 8:41 PM

U.S. Representative Lee Zeldin Opposes President Obama's Plan To Close Guantánamo Bay Prison

Wrong." Feb 23, 16 3:04 PM

Those are called cells" Feb 23, 16 7:19 PM

And Louis Farrakhan endorsed Obama....Yes THAT Louis Farrakhan.
" Feb 25, 16 7:55 PM

Teen Installs New Sidewalks At Hampton Bays Church For Eagle Scout Project

What an amazing young man !!!!" Mar 3, 16 1:38 PM

U.S. Representative Lee Zeldin Opposes President Obama's Plan To Close Guantánamo Bay Prison

Is there a difference between Hillary Clinton and a pathological liar ?
" Mar 4, 16 8:08 PM

Wrong ." Mar 8, 16 9:42 AM

In 1991 Trump ceded his yacht to creditors. It was then purchased by Al-Waleed. In 1995 Trump sold the Plaza to Saudi and Asian investors. This all occurred before 9/11.

After 9/11 the Clinton foundation accepted donations from Saudi Arabia.
From 2007 to 2012 Gehad El-Haddad was the director of the Clinton Foundation. In May of 2011, while working for the Clintons ,he began his "side job" as a senior advisor for the Muslim Brotherhood. I'm not sure ,is that un American?
And lets not forget about Huma....
And why won't Saudi Arabia accept Syrian refugees ?

And a big Thank You to Lee Zeldin for understanding the difference between a "street gang / JV Team" and terrorists." Mar 10, 16 5:20 PM

Nothing is underhanded about my post. As usual I'm just stating facts.
So, Lee Zeldin is disloyal because he wants to protect America from terrorists ?
Interesting... Let me help you with some examples of disloyal because clearly you're confused.
Obama and Hillary Clinton. Hope this helps.

Exactly where in my post did I mention Israel ? I'm aware that 9/11 occurred on American soil, are you? And I'M the bigot...funny!

And no innuendo or implication intended. There is absolutely nothing innocent about Hillary Clinton.

And now let ME be clear.

It's quite obvious you know absolutely nothing about the Muslim Brotherhood and their main objective. Nor do you understand what happened in Benghazi.

The NY Times is best used to line bird cages ,because bird s&$t would be the only honest thing on the pages ." Mar 11, 16 1:48 PM

You too could take a look at some of the articles that others have suggested, but that would require an open mind and respect. So it's a waste of time to post any references.

The fact that you're attempting to defend Benghazi is a disgrace and inexcusable.

Even IF the attack was because of a "video", it only illustrates the savage disgusting behavior of the sub humans that perpetrated it.

Benghazi is Sharia. It's just another component of Islam's twisted demented ideology.
There is no difference between 9/11,Benghazi, San Bernardino, etc., etc.

I'm not apologizing for anything. I see you're still quite confused as to where 9/11 occurred. Let me help. It happened in America. What you choose to see as pandering , most rational intelligent people see as protecting Americans from terrorists.

Please stop putting words in my mouth. I never stated that all Muslims are terrorists. I am however waiting for the " peaceful majority" to stand up next to non Muslims and denounce terrorism. When can I stop holding my breath ?

Perhaps if Gitmo is shut down, you could open your home to these poor misunderstood individuals.

The rest of us " nutters" will continue to pray we do not end up like Europe." Mar 12, 16 4:03 PM

One more thing......

If anyone thinks terrorism will end if Israel would just give back land ( Israel did,it didn't work) or if Israel was "wiped off the map", it won't.

Just in case anyone forgot, Iran chants death to America as well.

And remember, Muslims are not fond of Christians either.

So to any non Muslim anti Semites out there listen up: you're considered an infidel as well.

" Mar 12, 16 8:29 PM

So I "almost never" post references? Really? The keyword here is almost....
I've provided plenty of "respectable support". But all you can do is harp on one bogus article ? Hilarious !! Good grief man get over it !! I already acknowledged it was bogus. Let it go. All of my other suggestions are legit.

As for authoritative suggestions .....I suggested an extremely authoritative article : An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Brotherhood in North America.
But as I stated there is no point in posting suggestions because you ignore them, not because I and others haven't posted them.

The reason you don't see a problem with Huma is simple. You do not understand the main objective of the Muslim Brotherhood. However, most rational ,intelligent people do.

Let's try this again....

I never stated that all Muslims are terrorists. I stated that all Muslims have a common goal. The "moderate" Muslims would like to reach the goal peacefully. The "extremist" Muslims won't hesitate to decapitate someone to reach the goal. Either way they ALL have the same goal.

What is truly disgraceful is to make excuses for their disgusting behavior, as you've done with Benghazi.

You're also confused as to what is considered time immemorial...Let me help
As for the most prominent religions it's as follows:


So go ahead and continue to complain about Israel. Let me remind you, if Israel is wiped off the map rest assured America will be next. In fact it will be just that much easier to obtain the common goal.

Again keep your focus on Israel. The rest of the rational people in America will focus on avoiding becoming Europe. I'm not libeling Muslims , I don't have to. There is more than enough proof of their indifference, (the "moderates") and their disgusting, sub human behavior ( the "extremists")

* Hindus are perhaps the second most hated by Muslims.
" Mar 13, 16 9:34 PM

And there you have it folks !!! A more perfect example of anti Semitism you will not find !!

Of course , land return !! Why didn't Israel think of that ?? Oh wait, Israel did return land .In 1967 Israel returned 94%. That worked well.

Once again, the conflict has ZERO to do with land.

It's always been about one thing and ONLY one thing. Israel's right to exist.
And lets not forget , Muslims are not fond of Christians either.

What an absolute disgrace to defend a document that very clearly outlines the intention to destroy America. Oh wait, it's ok as long as it's done legally and peacefully. Oh that makes it better.

Tedious and logorrhoeic.......Really...?
Lets look at an excerpt:

" The process of settlement is a " civilization -Jihadist process" with all the word means. The Ikawan ( a religious militia) must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and " sabotaging" it's miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers, so that it is eliminated and Gods religion is made victorious over all other religions"

Seems fairly succinct to me.

You know what part stands out the most ? Destroying the Western civilization from within.....

What's particularly horrifying, is that the document was discovered in Virginia. Last time I checked Virginia is in the United States.

As for Huma, and her Jew.... she's practicing something known as Muruna, deceit by the temporary suspension of Sharia, similar to Taqiyya, deceit for the purposes of spreading Islam. There is also Kitman ,deceit by omission.

No wonder Hillary gets along with Huma and the Muslim Brotherhood ! When it pertains to telling a lie , they're aficionados !!! I bet she takes a lot of notes !!

And I'm sure most rational intelligent Jews would be ok with Weiner converting to Islam, they can have him .

As for your final statement, talk about the pot calling the kettle black !

" Mar 14, 16 7:21 PM

Ok let's try this again.

First, I would like to address your theory that the main objective of the Muslim Brotherhood's Memorandum is to, "establish Islam in the United States"
Why does it need to be "established" ? Islam exists in America.

If you're Jewish you practice Judaism
If you're Christian you practice Christianity.
If you're Muslim you practice Islam.

Peacefully. Without trying to conquer or convert. That's what America is all about.

No the Memorandum is not about the "establishment of Islam". It's about one thing .....The destruction of America..... from within.

I guess that's why you're so confused. You stated that they're trying to "establish" Islam by " entirely peaceful and legal means....

Oh I get it now . It's ok to, wish to eliminate and destroy western civilization from within, as long as it's done peacefully and legally....

And because I love to help, let me list some better examples of an abomination.

Making excuses for the Muslim Brotherhood's Memorandum.

Hillary "Benghazi" Clinton

Anthony " wanna see my stuff " Weiner.

Anyone that blames Israel for world wide terrorism.

" Mar 15, 16 6:03 PM

Not once, did I state that "individuals" are not free to "achieve goals" in America. It depends however, on what the "goal" is. When the goal is to destroy America, we have a problem.

I may be mistaken ,but I was not aware that there are rules and limits to destroying western civilization.

The issue is not about one particular individual. The goal to "destroy from within", is a common goal amongst a group of specific individuals. Meaning more than one person.

MY assertion ? Seriously ?? Do you read your own posts ? I'm not susceptible to mind games so you may as well stop playing them. I'm not the one trying to spin the Memorandum .It is what it is. Apparently you're the one ok with it, because it doesn't involve decapitation.

I'm fully aware that a person or persons can not be punished for " thoughts". But to ignore the objective of the Memorandum is akin to willful ignorance. As is ignoring the violence perpetrated by Muslims in America and Europe.

I do not agree with special treatment for anyone, including Jews. But our government happens to fund special interests of Muslims and Jews, and a multitude of other things I disagree with.

However the desire to destroy western civilization, trumps installing an Eruv or Halal food in schools.

" Mar 16, 16 5:25 PM

Ok just to be clear....
You're ok with the Muslim Brotherhoods connections to the Obama administration and Hillary Clinton, and to their objective, as long as it's obtained peacefully and legally. Got it.

Parasites. And I'M the racist bigot.

Lets not confuse the Jewish parasites upstate with the *Syrian refugees in America and Europe. After all, things are working out so well in Europe. Especially in Germany. Karma anyone....?.

I wonder why five of the wealthiest Muslim countries refuse to accept any refugees? Something about concerns about terrorism? Not to be confused with the Arabs turning their backs on their fellow Arabs (" Palestinians") in 1948. I see a theme but I digress.... just a little bit....

Let me accurately describe what is " diametrically at odds with the liberal foundation of our republic" in one word. Islam.

Only a bigoted racist would compare the planned destruction of the United States to a bunch of Jews upstate receiving "special treatment". I wonder, what kind of special treatment, assistance and accommodations will be made for our new Syrian friends ?

Here is a more accurate definition of autocratic in one word: Obama.

Most rational intelligent people can easily make the connection between the Muslim Brotherhood, the Obama administration, and the objective of BOTH.

Most rational intelligent people understand the objective of the Muslim Brotherhood could become a reality considering their number one fan has a few more months in office. And their other number one fan ,if elected, would just pick up the baton.

*Senior officials at the Dept. of Homeland Security admitted that the agency has " no clue" as to how many Syrians have entered the US. That's comforting. Hopefully they're keeping an eye on all those parasites upstate.

" Mar 16, 16 11:45 PM

No wrong again.

I do "get it". Your argument is that the Memorandum is protected under free speech. I never said it wasn't or shouldn't be protected. But go ahead and keep repeating yourself. The rest of us, will not ignore the intent of the Memorandum, or what is happening in Europe. Paying attention to the intent of the Memorandum does not make me a bigoted racist. Calling Jews parasites however, definitely makes you one.

So because YOU say so, there is no connection between the MB, Obama and Hillary. Interesting. Care to cite some references? I've already explained why I won't.

No, I'm not conflating anything. I'm paying attention to Europe. You continue to fail to see how thoughts can turn into actions. You keep your focus on a bunch of parasitic Jews upstate. Because of course they're the ONLY group of people that receive assistance from the government......

If the statement, "their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within", is NOT at least a promise of, a sort of "peaceful" sedition, well I don't know what is. But all that matters to you , is that it's peaceful. Because they don't mention decapitation, it's OK with you.

They're protected , free speech. I guess ignorance really is bliss. I understand "innocent until proven guilty". But to turn a blind eye to the obvious and to Europe is a disgrace. I guess everyone forgot "never again".

Wow " exotic intellectual expression". I thought it was " tedious and logorrhoeic"....?

So now you're romanticizing a document that calls for the destruction of Western civilization. I'll say that's even worse than anti Semitism. But not by much. No effect....yet. That's why it's imperative Hillary does not get elected , because if Obama fails at his mission ,she'll just pick up where he left off. After all, no lives were lost in Libya....

Your biggest concern is a bunch of Jews upstate receiving government assistance. You worry about "unemployable Jews and their unemployable children. Yet you ignore the billions of dollars it will cost to settle ( un vetted ) Muslim refugees.

Personally I would be concerned with the Muslim children , they're the ones with bombs under their Thobe's .....

Thanks again for the definition of parasite. " Mar 17, 16 8:33 PM

Refute the "nothingness". Thank you. You just illustrated why it's absolutely useless to cite references. Nice try though TCM.

This reminds me of the time my four year old Nephew refused to eat his dinner. He put his hands over his ears, and closed his eyes, while turning his head to the left then to the right to indicate no. It's funny when little kids do this. But he was just refusing to eat dinner. He wasn't denying the glaringly OBVIOUS connections between the Muslim Brotherhood and the Obama administration.

The JDL was founded by Meir Kahane in 1968 to defend Jews against anti Semitism. But that's right, Jews are not allowed to practice self defense....I keep forgetting this.....

The Muslim Brotherhood was founded in 1928 by Hassan al Banna to fight Zionism. Although Al Banna "rejected" violence in Egypt, ( even though many prominent Egyptian politicians were murdered by the Brotherhoods military wing in the 1940's) he welcomed violence and supported armed resistance in pre 1948 "Palestine". And lets not forget the special relationship Al Banna had with Hitler.

And according to Al Banna;

" It is the nature of Islam to dominate , not to be dominated, to impose it's law on all nations and extend it's power to the entire planet"

Did his buddy Hitler know this ? Because that could have been a deal breaker in terms of the friendship.....It's kind of like two women going to the same party, wearing the same dress.

But you enjoy your bliss and insist the Muslim Brotherhood is merely a philanthropic organization.....

The Muslim Brotherhood was founded on anti Semitism.

The JDL was founded to fight anti Semitism.

Quite ignorantly YOU do not equate Jihad with war because YOU do not understand Islam's ideology and Islam's principal of lying.

So the Memorandum OBVIOUSLY refers to the concept of moral or spiritual struggle? Because YOU say it does..?? So it's ok with you because it proposes a " peaceful jihad"? Wow. Back to willful ignorance we go.....

I guess the many un vetted and unaccounted for Muslims will upgrade the commonwealth. Especially since they too will receive government assistance. Just like in Europe right? Things are going very well over there......" Mar 18, 16 2:07 PM

I do not care if you accept my ( or anyone else's) citations. I thought I made myself clear earlier, I guess not. And you can deny the obvious connections the Muslim Brotherhood has to the Obama administration. You have a right to your opinion . It's also your right to interpret the Memorandum any way you wish.

The fact that the Memorandum is "cleverly" written does not detract from it's intention.

I'm not arguing free speech or due process.

You are free to wander through life viewing Islam's ideology through rose colored glasses. The fact that you do however may be because you do not actually understand the ideology......

Indictments have been made against the Muslim Brotherhood- tied group CAIR. But I know, I know, there are absolutely no connections between the two. Again there is no comparison between the MB and the JDL, as one was formed to perpetrate anti Semitism ( and conquer the world, let's not forget that ) and one was formed to defend against anti Semitism.

I've only failed in your eyes. You're much too busy focusing on government assistance afforded to Jews upstate and not towards un vetted Muslims. But more importantly you ignore what's happening in Europe. Remember the last time Americans ignored what was happening in Europe ?

You are in no position to decide what is rational when you defend a document such as the Memorandum, no matter how it was written.

I'm not filling the air with anything irrelevant. I find it ironic that you describe ME as sanctimonious when Islam rejects ALL other religions and claims superiority. Funny.

When the "peaceful majority" of Muslims decide to reject terrorism and accept other religions ,then we'll be able to accomplish something.

Not really sure how I'm hypocritical but then again you lost me when you described the Memorandum first as ,tedious and logorrhoeic , and then as an exotic intellectual expression......

What "didn't work" ? Didn't work for YOU ? As I said, you lost credibility when you favorably described a document that calls for the destruction of Western civilization.

I will continually employ my " tedious" tactics (your opinion) as long as you continue to defend a group of people intent on destroying the United States.

" Mar 20, 16 3:11 PM

Once again, that's YOUR opinion. And which readers are you referring to ? The anti American and anti Semitic readers, or the rational ones ?

TCM already gave plenty examples of connections. I already explained why it's useless to do so.

I would say it's more embarrassing to defend a depraved group of individuals that vow to destroy America. But enjoy your bliss.

" Mar 20, 16 8:42 PM

And for some more honesty, Obama already tore America apart." Mar 21, 16 2:41 PM

Ah yes , Obummers mission.....slowly but surely coming to fruition. " Mar 23, 16 8:03 PM

Erin, I agree, it's not a joke. Too bad many people do not take it seriously. To answer your question please investigate the following ......

Stealth Jihad

It's also important to understand that there is no such thing as "moderate" Islam. Islam is Islam...

Take it from Turkey's Prime Minister from 2003 to 2014 Recep Tayyip Erdogan.......

" The term " moderate Islam" is ugly and offensive; There is no "moderate" Islam, Islam is Islam."

Or perhaps take what Muslim advocate and leader from IslamNet, Fahad Ullah Qureshi had to say about the subject:

"The "common" Muslim shares the same beliefs, as the Muslim that the western media labels "extreme".

These are just two examples, trust me there are many more.

It would be naïve to think millions of so called "moderate" Muslims don't agree with these statements.

Also, it's easy to infiltrate when the POTUS is a Muslim determined to destroy the country. This is why it is imperative Hillary does not become the next POTUS. She will only finish what Obama started.

Ultimately it's a combination of anti Semitism, (stating that Jews are to blame because of past and current events in Israel, because Muslims say so ), and political correctness.....

It's important to understand that the terror attacks in this country and in Europe really have nothing to do with Israel or Jews other than Muslims have been mandated to perpetrate such attacks by the Quran. But let's not forget Christians are also on that list of infidels to convert or kill.
It's also happening because of "political correctness". Finding fault with Islam is considered blasphemy against beliefs and customs and its basically the rise of Sharia law in this country. Why do you think the POTUS will NEVER use the phrase Islamic terrorism ?

Bottom line this is about Islam dominating the world. To think anything else is just denial.

" Mar 24, 16 5:01 PM

No lies or misdirection on my part. Blaming Israel for world wide terrorism and using Arab "Palestinians" as pawns, is a more accurate example of misdirection.

I've already explained that there is no difference between how "extreme" and "moderate" Muslims interpret Islam.

You can't compare killing in the name of Allah, and killing, because one finally "snaps". One "snaps" because all of ones friends and family are being killed in the name of Allah. Jews don't strap bombs to their children.

So, world domination is ok, as long as it's done peacefully. Still an interesting concept you have there. I wonder how peaceful the citizens of Brussels feel at the moment. And please make up your mind, is it world domination, or US policies towards Israel.....?

And lets not forget , world wide, Muslims are persecuting and killing Christians. I guess the Jews are to blame for this as well.

No "scaremongering" here. I just prefer to live with my eyes open.

I did not say Sharia was implemented....yet. I stated that the POTUS, a Muslim, is most definitely practicing Sharia by REFUSING to put the word Islamic in front of the word terrorism.

Perhaps you should redirect and take your focus off Israel for just a moment and pay attention to what is actually happening in Europe. There are "no go" zones in many places in Europe where there are large Muslim populations. In these areas there are justice systems based on Sharia. Now pay attention. I did not state that Sharia has been implemented there....yet. Law enforcement concede however that they have indeed " lost control" of certain areas. But I'm sure you'll say this is not true, because of course YOU say so.

And once again I'm not sure what you are implying about what occurred in Paris or Brussels. But it's not first time you've misdirected.......

The conflict between Israel / Jews and Arabs is not one that be explained ,"in a nutshell", however ironically, it's actually quite simple. It's the greatest lie ever told.

Let me repeat a few facts.
The Jews that immigrated to the region in the mid 19th century, settled on unclaimed ,unoccupied desolate land or ,purchased land that happened to be extremely overpriced. Much of the purchased land was not owned by the fellahin that occupied the land , but rather by wealthy absentee Arab land owners that essentially sold the land , not informing their fellahin tenants. The confusion surrounding "stolen" land is that many of the fellahin actually believed that they were the owners , when in fact they were not. And lets not forget the lovely Bedouin. In short it was a dump.
So as it is with Arabs, they stabbed their fellow Arabs in the back by selling the land. Why am I not surprised .

Arabs only became interested in the region after the Jews began to reclaim and develop the Jewish ancestral homeland.

Lets skip now to 1948. Arabs could have had their 23rd state then, and four more times since. Again there were 22 Arab states. The Arabs would not accept Israel, one tiny state for Jews. Arabs claim that Jews have zero connection to the region. This is a lie.

Arabs promised their fellow Arabs ( lets keep it real and call them Jordanians, keep in mind they weren't "Palestinians" until 1967),that if Israel did indeed become a state, it would be destroyed. So Arabs told the other Arabs in Jordan to leave. They then tell them that they could return after Israel is annihilated. And keep in mind , there were thousands of Jewish refugees fleeing Arab states at this time. Funny how no one mentions that FACT. But also bear in mind there would have been ZERO refugees if the Arabs had just accepted Israel.

So what happened next ?Five Arab armies failed to annihilate the day old state.

So what happens to all the Arabs that did what they were told ? They are denied access to the other TWENTY TWO ARAB STATES and voila ,refugees . Once again Arabs stab their own in the back. But why ? Because it was the perfect opportunity to use their fellow Arabs as pawns. To say to the world, "see how evil Israel is" , this is why Israel must be destroyed. The Jordanian/Palestinian Arabs have been used as pawns ever since. And, as they've done so many times before, Arabs still to this day refuse to accept their fellow Syrian Arab refugees. Wonderful people.

So the bottom line is this. The Jordanians ( " Palestinians AFTER 1967) have been used a pawns by Arabs to push the Arab agenda of destroying Israel.

There has never been a Palestinian nation. Israel captured the West Bank and Eastern Jerusalem from Jordan's King Hussein and the Gaza Strip from Egypt after they declared war against the Jewish state. But I forgot, Jews are not allowed to defend themselves. But lets not forget, Israel withdrew from Gaza and surprise , no peace.

And tell me what happened between the years 1948 and 1967. Why no demand for a Palestinian state ? The West Bank was under Jordanian control and Gaza under Egyptian control.The Arabs still mistreated their fellow Arabs and terrorist acts against Israel continued.....There were no " settlements" at this time.

Again this is not about how Israel treats " Palestinians" ....It's about Israel's right to exist. It's about ignoring FACTS. In the words of a former PLO terrorist, Walid Shoebat.....

" Why is it that on June 4th 1967 I was Jordanian and over night I became a "Palestinian" ? Good Question. I don't think 1967 qualifies as ancestral.

Europe is being attacked because liberal idiots welcomed terrorists in with open arms. And I would say the United States was quite ACCESSIBLE on 9/11.

The United States funds Hamas. The US sends $400. million per year to the Palestinian Authority. The PA pays terrorists. Personally I would rather pay Israel to kill terrorists, but that's just me.

It's interesting that you can find humor in the fact that the POTUS can do the tango while Europe bleeds.

" Mar 26, 16 1:32 AM

Ok once again an odd statement..... Yes Jews did purchase land. Uncultivated, swampy, unwanted and often over priced with few inhabitants....
Such a deal........

From 1880 to 1948 roughly 78% of Jewish plots were purchased from large land owners. By willing sellers. Those selling included the Mayors of Gaza, Jerusalem and Jaffa. Even As'ad el-Shuqeiri, Father of PLO Chairman, Ahmed Shuqeiri took Jewish money for his land.

In 1920 David Ben-Gurion stated, " Under no circumstances must we touch land belonging to fellahs . Only if a fellah leaves his place of settlement, should we offer to buy his land , at an appropriate price." He also advocated helping liberate them from their wealthy oppressors. But still many of the actual land owners did sell land to Jews without the fellahin understanding that it wasn't actually theirs.

Israel gained land ( that technically was always Israel's in some cases ) in defensive wars. Again the key word being DEFENSIVE. A direct result from being attacked by Arabs. Again ( wow this is really getting tiresome) if Arabs had agreed to coexisting, there would be zero conflicts.
The fact is, Arabs have the unmitigated gall to suggest Jews have no ties to the region !!!! Again I do not have pity for these savages.

No , it's not "occupation". And for any open minded readers that would like another side to this story may I suggest some articles.

Go on line and type in the following:

1. Camera The west bank Jewish territory under international law

2. Front page magazine Judea and Samaria are Israel

And there you go again discussing human rights. Human rights are afforded to people that behave like humans. The Arabs that live in Israel have more rights than Arabs living in any Arab state. We covered this already.

Practically EVERY nation has condemned Israel and Jews at some point. Nothing new about that. Maybe the other nations should focus on human rights violations in China, The Sudan and Saudi Arabia, just to name a few.

To reiterate : Arabs REFUSED to let Jews have 20%, TWENTY PERCENT to their 80%, EIGHTY PERCENT of the mandate !!!!!!!
You seem confused about this. The Arabs refused a two state solution that was 80% in their favor. And they've refused continuously FIVE times since.

They had many chances to have the 23rd state they so desperately needed......So why don't they??? Let me tell you again.
Because this conflict has never been about land or self- determination. It has been, and always will be about Israel's right to exist.

So as the Arab aggressors start conflict after conflict, and complain when they lose land, here's an idea.....STOP STARTING CONFLICTS AND JUST COEXIST.

Nothing alleged about what Arabs did to their fellow Arabs. Take the words of Mahmoud Abbas......

The Arabs entered Palestine to protect the Palestinians from the Zionist tyranny but, instead they abandoned them. Forced them to emigrate and to leave their homeland and threw them into prisons similar to the ghettos in which Jews used to live....

Yes Arabs are responsible for the dispossession of other Arabs. No matter how hard you try to convince yourself otherwise. The Israelis welcomed Arabs to become citizens of Israel. Another fact. The Arabs that like to call themselves "Palestinians" had many chances to create a state, another fact.

I must say it's quite amusing when you call me prejudiced and ignorant, when I could easily say the same about you .
Believe what you want about the POTUS. Most intelligent people know exactly why he refuses to put the word Islamic in front of the word terrorism. It's clear you know nothing about Sharia. Once again you're viewing Islamic ideology just as I expected you would. But hey, that's your right to do so.

I'm sure most Europeans are painfully aware as to exactly what Sharia means.

And for your information June.....

Prior to the 20th century there were numerous attacks perpetrated by Arabs against Jews but to keep it simple I will only list a few attacks that occurred in the 20th century

1917 The Balfour Declaration .....The beginning of Arab's attacking Jews after discussions to possibly create a state.
1920 The Nebi Musa riots 6 Jews killed
1921 Various attacks on Jews in the cities of Jaffa and Petah Tikva, 47 Jews killed
1924 Jews fleeing Poland and immigrating to the region are attacked by Arabs, 133 Jews killed
1929 Hebron Massacre 67 Jews killed
1936-1939 Various Arab revolts against Jews, 562 Jews killed.
1947 Many Arab attacks on Jews after the UN decision

I think it's safe to acknowledge exactly who " started it"......

As for Einstein and various un informed American Jews, that were not "on the ground " in Israel .

Here are some articles for you....

Go on line and type in the following:

1. Jpost Terra incognita when Einstein was wrong.

2.Daniel Pipes the Muslim claim to Jerusalem

3. Free Republic Deir Yassin History of a lie

4. Maurice Ostroff Deir Yassin startling evidence

5. Maurice Ostroff the 1948 war of independence in a nutshell

So forgive me if I do not weep for all the "poor Arabs" that viciously and consistently attacked Jews just for being Jewish.
" Mar 28, 16 10:24 PM

Incorrect " Mar 28, 16 10:49 PM

How presumptuous of you. But that's nothing new. I'm always hopeful that readers will actually read my suggestions. They give people a chance to see the side of a situation not tainted by anti Semitism, anti Jewish propaganda and lies. But if you actually did read my post, you would realize that the citations were not meant for you. I addressed them to the " open minded " readers. I do not expect you to accept the truth. Again the citations are for the open minded , rational readers. They're not for the anti Semitic, anti American, Islamophile, racist liberals.

I'm not shocked that you would discredit anything to do with Zionism .

I never once stated that Israel's conduct during times of war were always flawless. Keep in mind however that there is a difference between starting a conflict and defense in a conflict. The war of independence (most definitely a DEFENSIVE war) was extremely ruthless. Of course BOTH sides did what they deemed necessary to gain the upper hand. But I know , liberal, anti Semitic Islamophiles insist Jews have no right to defend themselves .

Just a quick reminder : If the Arabs had acknowledged that Jews had every right to return to their ancestral homeland , (when all other countries refused them) and if the Arabs acknowledged that there is indeed historical and archaeological evidence of the existence of Jews, and If the Arabs had accepted the 80% to the Jews 20% , and if the Arabs would stop using fellow Arabs as pawns, well then, we could all coexist.

And please enlighten me as to who "us" consists of. The handful of anti Semitic ,anti American racist Islamophiles that agree with YOU ? Thanks but I'm not concerned with their opinions.

And back to your comment about me , mistaking that readers won't read my citations....I think it's more wishful thinking on your part. This way you can spin the citation to suit your agenda .Otherwise how else could you get away with taking ONE sentence out of context and completely annihilating it.
This "damning sentence " only illustrated the continuous desire , by Jews , to avoid civilian casualties, unlike Hamas and past terrorists that AIM their rockets to purposely kill civilians.

You conveniently left out the part about how Deir Yassin wasn't a " peaceful little village" but a center of weapons trafficking during the "violent Palestinian Arab outbreaks" during the 1920's. This information is in the paragraph titled Deir Yassins record of anti Jewish violence.

So back to your "damning" sentence....
In theory, Jews were STILL trying to minimize civilian casualties. Civilians ,that just 20 years prior, were aiding in the attempted destruction of Jews. Similar to Israel today, when Jewish doctors , like your favorite, Dr.Baruch Goldstein, save the very people that often tried to kill them.

And as for Deir Yassin being totally erased ....

Arabs insist Jews have absolutely no connection to the region. But here's a fact :Jerusalem is of no real significance to Muslims. To the rational readers, please refer to a citation I posted previously ; Daniel Pipes The Muslim claim to Jerusalem... And lets not forget the desecration of Jewish holy sites ,as well as the holy sites and areas of importance to many OTHER religions, DESTROYED by Muslims. Remember Islam does not tolerate any other religion.

One final statement/ question. In an earlier post you predictably cited the root cause of 9/11 being Americas support of Israel ( and Jewish control of America...) .
So please explain to me why Muslims have attacked and killed people in countries that do not support Israel ? For example there have been attacks in :
Ivory Coast etc., etc.
These are not "Jew friendly" countries that support Israel.

Again Arabs could have had their LAND. Eighty percent of it. It's NEVER been about land. It will ALWAYS be about Israel's right to exist. Period.

And June , do you know what I find even more dismaying ? The fact that the world was sold a lie. And the fact that Arabs STILL use their fellow Arabs as pawns. The UN calling Israel one of the worst violators of human rights while ignoring The Sudan and Rwanda and China.....???? That is dismaying.

So in terms of Israel, the Jews that live THERE have every right to THEIR freedom and safety and to defend themselves when THEY'RE being continuously attacked because of THEIR religion, not because of land.

And finally to Erin. You have every right to be concerned. It doesn't make you a phobic racist to understand what is happening to women in Europe, and to not want it to happen here. And there is plenty of information regarding "creeping Sharia" (notice I did not say it was implemented ...yet ) and of Muslims committing horrific crimes in the name of Islam right here on American soil. Some have been prosecuted , some have not. But I'm sure someone will tell you that's a lie.....And no, you're not the one that needs therapy.

And for anyone that is interested ....one more citation.

WND The truth about Israel's stolen land by Larry Elder.
" Mar 31, 16 3:28 PM

HHS I know why you take sentences, and entire paragraphs out of context. You do this to distort the facts and the truth, and to push the agenda that Israel has no right to exist. You push the lie that Jews are "marauders" that marched into "peaceful" Arab villages to murder and pillage. Lies all lies.
It's the truth that is so damning to YOUR case.

No matter how many times you, self -hating Jews and Muslims continue to push the lie that Jews have no right to the land, it's still not true.There has always been a Jewish presence in the land, yes, for thousands of years. But here's one fact that can't be denied, there was never a country called "Palestine".There could have been, but Arabs refused it. Many times. And why? Because if Arabs agree to a two state solution that requires recognizing the state of Israel. And that is the crux of the issue. Not bits of land here and there .The entire state is an issue for the Arabs. That is a FACT.

For the rational readers here are some more suggestions.

Free Republic They stole our land VS the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem.

UK Media Watch Arabs attacking Jews over 100 years of excuses

Jewish Virtual Library Israel war of Independence The capture of Deir Yassin

Commentary Magazine The illegal - settlements myth.

And to Bigfresh...You are entitled to your opinion. But I will say this ,HHS is not making a salient point about anything. He is perpetuating a lie.

And for June, I lost interest when I read ,narrated by Roger Waters. As for David Swanson...He is a virulent anti Semite but more importantly he's anti American. You're the one drinking the Kool-Aid. The Kool-Aid doled out by anti Israel propagandists.

" Apr 6, 16 11:50 AM

Wow bigfresh, why so sensitive...?

And to HHS, clearly you do not understand what the words irrelevant and detrimental mean. And thanks for the summary of the articles I posted. I'm not sure why that was necessary, but whatever makes you happy. And for the billionth time, Israel did not expropriate anything. And again, you are confused as to who is guilty of sophistry in the Middle East....

For any reader that is interested in how the poor Palestinians are doing, go to You Tube and check this out ......

Celebration with Arab Palestinians.

And for a little bit of history stay on You Tube and check this out.

Debunking Vox's lies and distortions part 1

" Apr 11, 16 4:10 PM

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You seem a bit confused about the videos I posted. Let me help. In the first video, the happy people , dining al fresco and enjoying western products, they are the "Palestinians". The starving children , those are Syrians.
I wonder, if the "occupation" is so bad, why don't we see masses of Arabs fleeing Israel, the way they flee surrounding Muslim countries ?

The second video was merely another example of the how information and history about Jews in the region, is distorted to spread more lies about Jews.

Judea and Samaria belong to the Jews. Sorry if this fact bothers you. You can disagree all you want, but it's still a fact.
Jews returned to Judea and Samaria after the area was liberated by Israel in 1967. Again land obtained in a defensive war , not "wrested by force". Also Judea and Samaria is not "Palestinian" land because of another fun fact. A sovereign state called "Palestine" doesn't exist.Therefore no "occupation".

As for Gaza....
Hamas took over Gaza and promised to liberate the " Palestinians", but instead they oppress their fellow Arabs ,steal their aid and get them killed. Again Arabs using other Arabs as pawns in the effort to delegitimize Israel.

And what happened to the "Palestinians" between the years 1948-1967...?Interesting. Again, Arabs suppressing their fellow Arabs.
I'm starting to see a pattern....." Apr 18, 16 1:33 AM

East Hampton Yoga Guru Reflects On Craft At 85

Good Grief that pose would put me in the hospital !!!! You go girl !!!!!!!!!
" Apr 19, 16 4:04 PM

Sag Harbor Man Receives Outpouring Of Support After Motocross Accident

Wow you seem to know quite a bit about the family.....Maybe they have bills or issues you know nothing about... Remember it's not cheap living in Sag Harbor....Maybe they should move like every other local family...Bottom line I can tell you that I know the Federico family and I'm sure they would do the same for someone else, in need ,or not as you assume....Too bad I cant say what I really want to in this post. I don't know how people support one another in Hampton Bays but Sag Harbor is a tight community of people that help each other. Kind of nice these days...." Apr 25, 16 11:09 PM

U.S. Representative Lee Zeldin Opposes President Obama's Plan To Close Guantánamo Bay Prison

Yes indeed some Arab "palestinians" are happy. Specifically the Arabs that live in Israel, where they are treated infinitely better than they are in any Arab state, especially female Arabs.
There is nothing preposterous about the current existence of Judea and Samaria. This is because Judea and Samaria never ceased to exist. The term "west bank" is much like the term "palestine". Merely a renaming of a region by invaders, to erase the Jewish people. FYI the term "west bank" was coined 68 years ago.

For any non anti Semitic people interested in some facts may I suggest an article. Go on line and type in the following :

The Jewish Chronicle online Israel's legal right to Judea and Samaria under international law. Again this is not an article for anti Semites .......

Wow, I would love a list of all the " international organizations" that promote peace. I hope you're not suggesting the virulently anti Semitic , anti Israel UN....

UN Human Rights Council Condemnations......2006-2015:

China -0
North Korea-8
Saudi Arabia-0

The UN also has some very interesting thoughts on Hamas, Hezbollah and Boko Haram

You cant steal something that was yours in the first place. And tell me , what did the Grand Mufti have to say about all that stolen land ? Don't forget, the Mufti was not exactly pro Israel or friendly towards Jews.

Arabs being 'mean" to other Arabs.......
So you're comparing what Arabs have done to their fellow Arabs (all in the effort to destroy Israel) to a fight between children on a playground ? Lets examine...
Arabs using fellow Arabs as pawns to create a refugee crisis, Arabs using fellow Arabs as human shields, Arabs strapping bombs to fellow Arabs...
I don't think "mean" is the best adjective to describe how Arabs treat each other.

I never said Arabs doing horrific things to other Arabs had anything to do with land theft because no land was ever stolen. I'm merely explaining that the conflict has NOTHING to do with land at all, it has to do with Israel's right to exist , period.

Let me remind you, this conflict is not about "stolen" or "occupied" land. It's not about land at all. It's a religious war.

And finally to Bigfresh, can you tell me what happened between the years 1948-1967 ? Why didn't the Arab "Palestinians" complain about how they were treated by the Jordanians and the Egyptians ? Why no establishment of a state called Palestine in those 19 years ? And here is a suggestion for you.

Go on line and type in the following :
Front page magazine They stole our land VS the grand mufti of Jerusalem.

And understand this, there was never a group of ancestral Arab "Palestinian" people. This is a fact you refuse to accept .
When the Romans renamed Israel " palestine" , the people living there at the time were Jews not Arabs. Perhaps ,instead of robotically repeating a decades old lie, open your mind and educate yourself. And don't forget, Muslims don't just hate Jews , they consider Christians infidels as well. Why don't you research what Muslims did to Hindus in 1971...

" Apr 26, 16 2:58 AM

Sag Harbor Man Receives Outpouring Of Support After Motocross Accident

So...you don't know the family , but you know that they "live beyond their means "... Did you get that information via see through ny as well , or do you hang out in the bushes in the Federico's front yard and spy through the window ?" Apr 26, 16 12:56 PM

I'm not on any "high horse". I'm not the one behaving in a contemptuous manner. And no, I will not ,"take it easy" on someone that makes ridiculous assumptions and states inappropriate things when a family is in pain. And now YOU decide to start assuming ? Maybe they have financial issues maybe they don't. Here's what I do know. An assumption was made that the family, "lives beyond their means" and that they were "begging". Quite mean spirited in my opinion. And contrary to you, Babyboo DID decide to, "make it personal" by taking the time to research Mrs. Federico's salary. As far as the "serial go funders", I don't know what to tell you. Just like anything else in this world, if it can be abused and misused, it will be." Apr 27, 16 12:21 AM

Again, the family didn't set up the gofundme account. Also many locals no longer have neighbors they actually know because many locals left the area. Often times ones neighbor is an empty house until the summer season. It's not 1950's Mayberry anymore. I understand gofundme may have it's flaws and that's unfortunate. Also, many people that may not live in the area, but know of the family and want to help, can now do so. Why, because it's a free country, flaws and all. And there you go with the begging comment again. I'm not sure why the article was written. Perhaps because it's a small town and it was a slow news day. And why is it wrong to show how charitable and supportive a person happens to be ? Why are you so cynical ? I do believe there is a box one can check if one wishes to remain anonymous. But perhaps people want Mr. Federico to know that they care. Instead of seeing it as a bad thing perhaps you could see it for what it is, supporting a friend. Yes you did indeed research it because you took the time to look it up on line. If the word research offends you then how about investigated ? Because that's what you did. Again you took the time to go on line specifically to find out what you are getting for your money, because you stated that the Federico's live beyond their means , and that offended you. I was offended the other day while walking down Foster Memorial beach aka Long Beach in Sag Harbor. Garbage everywhere !! I better call my employees and get this straightened out......" Apr 27, 16 8:21 PM

Longtime Sag Harbor Fire Department Volunteer Ted Stafford Jr. Dies On May 2

Ted was a great guy !!! Always had a smile on his face and was always willing to help....RIP Ted , I will miss your greeting.....SUPAAA ! " May 10, 16 9:18 AM

U.S. Representative Lee Zeldin Opposes President Obama's Plan To Close Guantánamo Bay Prison

Judea and Samaria never ceased to exist. In fact they still exist ! The incorrect, made up term "west bank" took hold around 1950. Incidentally the only real occupier of Judea and Samaria was Jordan.

If you believe the story in the Bible you can blame God for what happened to the Canaanites.
Many contemporary archaeologists however, believe that the Israelites themselves were, for the most part, originally Canaanites, as well as Armorites, Apiru, Shashu and many others.The archaeological evidence does not support the idea that any "massacre" occurred.

To even suggest that the Israelis have not honored the pledge to, preserve the civil and religious rights of Arabs, is delusional and laughable. Did the Arabs pledge to behave civilly ? Arabs, (especially female Arabs) have it better INSIDE Israel as compared to ANY Arab Muslim state. Fact. Oh I forgot, Jews are not allowed to defend themselves when Arabs attack.
Again why aren't Arabs fleeing the horrible and oppressive state of Israel ,the way they flee horrible Muslim countries...?

Jews didn't just buy "some" land. And besides, Arabs had zero interest, let alone plans for the land. The interest suddenly appeared when the Jews arrived. Fact. And land obtained in a defensive war is not stolen land.

If anyone is demonstrating " land lust", it's the Arabs. They chose to refuse the partition plan, they refused to co exist.The Arabs were promised 80 % to the Jews 20 %... And even THAT 20% was divided !!! Israel, a sliver of land fully surrounded by Arab/Muslim states... and the Jews are the lustful ones ... go figure.

The UN is corrupt. That's a fact. The UN is stating that Israel is a far worse abuser of Human Rights as compared to China, Cuba, Iran, Iraq, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, and Syria...Really .?? I disagree. The condemnations of Israel occur when Israel defends itself.

Ah yes Israel, just walk away from Judea and Samaria because just look at how well things worked out for you after you left Gaza.

The fact that Arab Muslims, practice genital mutilation, perform honor killings, marry child brides, subjugate women, use humans as shields and as bombs, and have been ,and are still perpetuating a refugee crisis and using fellow Arabs as pawns, for 68 years.....No, that does not mean Jews stole land. And get this fact.....Arabs would still be doing these atrocious things if not one Jew existed on this earth....A point you just don't get.

I'm not stating Jews "stole" anything because of a Muslims behavior, I'm again stating that Jews did not steal land.
One more fact...This conflict is not about land, never was. It's about Israel's right to exist, period.

" May 11, 16 10:49 PM

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