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Killorans Threaten Legal Action Against Remsenburg-Speonk School District

Receiving districts (Southampton & Westhampton) get a price for regular ed and a separate price for special ed. Special ed can be as severe as a child with downs syndrome or a child who receives even the smallest amount of services (reading help). The differences in tuition charged is astounding - somewhere around $24000 for regular and $60000 for any child receiving any services. Westhampton does not accommodate the children with more serious needs because it's not economically advantageous for them, these children often need one on one aides. Westhampton's feeder districts should insist that these children are welcomed to their school as part of their contract with them. Children with more serious special needs already have the decks stacked against them and need to be with family and friends, familiar faces are important, and these children should not be pushed into unfamiliar territory. " Jun 16, 15 10:55 PM

Transgender Students Face Difficulties At Public Schools, Report Says

Is the NYCLU considering how the girls in the locker rooms and the bathrooms feel about a "boy" being able to use their facilities? Gender is a scientific term, not an arbitrary one. No matter how you feel on the inside, girls and boys don't do sports together for a reason. We can't start putting boys on girls teams, it gives the team an unfair advantage. If a child has a chosen name, perhaps the family may want to change it legally, the school needs to use a child's legal name. Regardless of all the above, a school should never tolerate bullying." Jul 1, 15 7:08 PM

Stop And Shop To Take Over Southampton And East Hampton Waldbaum's

We won't get away with living in the past with the population increasing the way it has been. Don't want to deal with population growth, you're right, there are lots of unpopulated and undeveloped areas upstate.
" Jul 23, 15 6:21 PM

I'm driving to HB just for Stop and Shop. I'm sure I'm not alone." Jul 23, 15 6:22 PM

I'm not sure how I feel about the center, but every single trip to S&S and KK ARE CR 39 outs and ins for most of us" Jul 23, 15 6:24 PM

What Tuckahoe vote?" Jul 23, 15 6:26 PM

UPDATE: No Restraining Order Issued Between Westhampton Beach School And Killoran Family

Many people seem to be missing an important point. Westhampton is NOT required to educate this student because he does NOT live in the Westhampton school district. It is the responsibility of the Remsenburg school district to provide an education for this child, and since they don’t have a middle school, Remsenburg must find a district willing to provide this child's education and pay for it with Remsenburg taxpayer $, same with Quogue & East Quogue students with similar issues. WH has obviously crunched the numbers and found that it isn't to their advantage economically to educate their few highly special needs children in house, so all the sending districts are forced to go along with that decision. That's sad, because it's always best to keep special needs children who are already at a disadvantage in the most comfortable environment. Perhaps somewhere down the line WH and their sending districts will merge, only then will this situation change. The sending districts (Q, EQ and Rem) have no rights whatsoever, they can't change anything because they have no representation and can't vote for WH board members. The only right they have is to pay the high tuition that WH charges and deal with it." Aug 29, 15 11:27 PM

We shouldn't leave out the fact that the "special needs" rate is fixed, whether the child receives speech services or has a more severe learning disability. It's all about $." Aug 29, 15 11:35 PM

Is one school district required by law to provide services specified by an outside district? If you moved to the WHB district, they may legally be required to follow his IEP (but I'm not positive). Have you considered renting out your home for a few years and moving to WHB?" Aug 29, 15 11:41 PM

The details are important, they don't want a show on the first day of school. I'm not sure they'll get a TRO, there is no imminent danger. It never should have come to this. The WHB school district should be merged with the sending small districts and should educate all students in house." Aug 30, 15 8:31 AM

The question is, how much is WESTHAMPTON spending annually? They don't care about what they're causing other districts to spend. There's a finite $ amount they'll get from your district. You should all be pushing for a merger so you have a say in the politics of WHB. It's basically taxation without representation, in a roundabout sort of way, and no change will ever be enacted on behalf of feeder schools.
" Sep 1, 15 11:02 PM

Family Protests Outside Westhampton Beach School Over Controversial Special Needs Decision

No, Aiden's parents will not win in court for one simple reason. They don't live in the WHB school district. You can't force a school district that you don't live in to provide anything at all for your child. If the child's IEP said that the least restrictive environment was in Smithtown, the Smithtown school district would not be required to educate him either. REMSENBURG is required to find an appropriate education for Aiden. There are contracts in place between Remsenburg and WHB. My guess is that the contracts cover this situation in the fine print. " Sep 2, 15 9:42 PM

A court will never hear the case because the Killoran's don't live in the WHB school district. Remsenburg should not sign another contract with WHB again and send ALL future students to ESM. Families shouldn't be split up in school, and even though Aiden's family will probably not win this battle, it's up to Remsenburg to protect future Remsenburg families with special needs children." Sep 2, 15 9:51 PM

This child was not turned away by his own district, he was turned away by another district. SEPTA and the parents knew years ago that WHB doesn't accommodate children with more severe special needs, and knew that the children would be split up if they chose to remain in Remsenburg. To think otherwise, based upon the experiences of other families, would just be hiding from the reality of the situation. WHB is only concerned with $ and test scores (and collecting tuition from districts like REM to finance their lovely schools). This is nothing new. It really stinks that families get split up, it shouldn't happen, and Remsenburg shouldn't sign contracts with districts that do so.
" Sep 2, 15 10:06 PM

Craig, perhaps it's time to push Remsenburg to not sign another contract with WHB unless children who are autistic or down's are accepted and accommodated. Instead of forcing WHB to think about what it saves by not educating these children, let them think about what they lose if they don't. It's not entirely unreasonable to send ALL future REM children to ESM, is it? Westhampton has gotten away with running the show for sending districts for far too long." Sep 2, 15 10:17 PM

Perhaps when WHB is faced with losing ALL Remsenburg tuition, they'll realize that educating kids like Aidan is to their benefit. " Sep 2, 15 10:20 PM

These issues will continue until the small feeder districts grow a pair...I'm in Tuckahoe, we face issues being a feeder district (not the same though, Southampton educates kids with Downs)...but yes, Southampton and Westhamton know they hold the cards because other options aren't wanted by parents of feeder districts." Sep 3, 15 8:02 AM

Southampton Town Will No Longer Fight Establishment Of Religious Boundary

Yes, this does give permission for other religions to also post invisible religious symbols. Who cares. Opposing this was a ridiculous waste of taxpayer dollars, and nothing but anti semitism disgusted as protecting sign law legislation. Taxpayer $ to fight invisible signs...unbelievable. we are lucky we don't have to pay their legal fees." Sep 3, 15 9:02 AM

Call it what you want HHS...far too much money and time has been spent arguing this ridiculous topic. Nobody is affected by an eruv, other than the person who doesn't want more Jews in their neighborhood. As far as "twice false", when another religious group comes forward with a similar request to place something that nobody will even see on a utility pole and loses, only then can you call my comment false. Clearly the courts don't agree with your assessment of this situation or your interpretation of how this relates to the establishment clause." Sep 3, 15 1:59 PM

UPDATE: No Restraining Order Issued Between Westhampton Beach School And Killoran Family

Hello Chief and April, two people who think the feeder district situation is fine because it keeps their taxes low. What I was saying is that the problem cannot even be addressed because they don't live in Westhampton. Southampton actually does a decent job with special needs kids. Chief, while I still think a merger is best, it is no longer my problem." Sep 5, 15 9:21 PM

WHB is an excellent school. Tuckahoe had an agreement and sent more and more kids there every year, until your district shut it down in order to keep your taxes ridiculously low. Oh well, not my problem anymore.
" Sep 5, 15 9:29 PM

UPDATE: Tuckahoe Superintendent Arrested, Charged With Felony; Lawyer Says No Criminal Activity Took Place

Perhaps he and the former asst principal in Southampton can make their own reality TV show." Dec 1, 15 8:54 PM

Tuckahoe School Superintendent Resigns

Seashell, as I'm sure you know, Remsenburg Speonk has always had two top administrators. So does Tuckahoe. Not sure if it matters exactly what they call them. Remsenburg has far fewer students, is almost exclusively white and doesn't need to deal with the issues of a large, diverse esl population. Tuckahoe also goes thru junior high school, Remsenburg does not, they send them off to WH in 7th grade.
" Mar 9, 16 8:42 PM

Fire, obviously the question was only meant to get an official answer from the school board, to know what was going on the record." Mar 9, 16 8:45 PM

Hopefully the next superintendent contract will include a morality clause, that will allow for no compensation should he/she be facing criminal charges." Mar 9, 16 8:46 PM

Southampton School District To Hold Community Forums On Purchase Of New District Office

The money was set aside for this purpose before the NYS tax cap was signed into law. The tax cap is a game changer. $7 million plus is an excessive cost for an administration building in this current fiscal environment, period. Just because the money is there doesn't mean it needs to be spent, no doubt a suitable location can be found for far less. Prime real estate is about as necessary as the under utilized planetarium." Mar 9, 16 9:02 PM

Sorry Hampsonsseashell, as long as taxpayers in other districts are paying massive tuition $ to send their kids to SHHS, and having those kids coming home with photocopies of chapters of paperback books, instead of actual books, yes, we have a right to complain. As long as the district can't afford to send the kids home with actual books, or even e-copies of those books, they shouldn't be purchasing expensive village real estate." Mar 9, 16 9:36 PM

Tuckahoe School Superintendent Resigns

So they need a supt and asst principal, or a supt and principal. Not really a big difference. But for the record, less than an hour ago you told a Tuckahoe taxpayer on the article about a new Admin building for SH SD, and I quote..... "Those that are not taxpayers in SD# 6, should not tell the taxpayers of SD# 6 how to spend their $$$$$$$.".
" Mar 9, 16 9:53 PM

Southampton School District To Hold Community Forums On Purchase Of New District Office

Speaking up about these things is basically the same as telling people how to vote. I know we agree on this, but your comments to the other Tuckahoe resident who supports it was out of line, especially given the fact that you're on the Tuckahoe article telling his district what they should do. Tuckahoe gives Southampton money, not the other way around. That being said, Tuckahoe should have a say in what goes on in Southampton. A tax increase for you is a tax increase for Tuckahoe by way of a tuition increase. We all have a stake in the district, but we have no say. A warped version of taxation without representation perhaps??" Mar 10, 16 1:23 PM

Tuckahoe School Superintendent Resigns

A Superintendent is required by NYS education law.
" Mar 12, 16 8:44 PM

Right, after everything, you're looking out for Tuckahoe, lol. " Mar 12, 16 8:46 PM

Besides, getting rid of the principal position won't change much, they have already done that, but they still need two administrators at the top. Tuckahoe isn't nearly as top heavy as other districts. " Mar 12, 16 8:51 PM

Bird and Seashell, according to NYS reports, Tuckahoe is financially in good shape. There is no issue in the foreseeable future with a need for a merger, perhaps the failed merger attempts were a good thing for Tuckahoe, we get to keep our autonomy and control, and as the economy improves, so will Tuckahoe. But in reality, Tuckahoe still pays you a great deal of tuition money for a mediocre High School education...and has an interest in the state of your district. Hopefully in the future the choice of a prime school like Westhampton will return. Seashell, I've mentioned several times, you talk about the need for a Supt/Principal to be a merged position, which is a valid point, but there is still a need for an asst principal. Do you really think there would be a huge savings for Tuckahoe to have a supt/principal or a Supt/asst principal? That's not a rhetorical question. It's not a huge savings either way. Tuckahoe isn't top heavy, but was forced by the state to add extra employees in the business office because of checks and balances mandates. Southampton is incredibly top heavy.
" Mar 14, 16 8:50 PM

"Another district"...are you serious? More of the Tuckahoe budget goes to "another district" than you can imagine! Kevin has every right to "meddle" in Southampton SD. Do you tell your clients whom you're showing homes to in the Tuckahoe district how much you dislike the district they're buying in? Or do you tell them about the cute little school down the road? This is not a rhetorical question.
" Mar 14, 16 8:56 PM

There are several homes on your website in Shinnecock Hills....really, what do you tell those customers when they ask about the local school district? Just curious. Do you tell them the not so nice things like you and Lori said at the board meetings during the merger process?
" Mar 14, 16 9:17 PM

So the Supt/Principal is supposed to be responsible for everything from the pre-k, elementary school and junior high? Is that what you're implying? On top of all the mandated reporting, they should hold the position of supt, principal, asst principal, head of curriculum (because we don't have one), etc, etc, etc? Stop, really.
" Mar 14, 16 10:02 PM

Tuckahoe's spending is really not out of control (those are mostly Southampton SD taxpayers who claim that). The problem is twofold...one, the tax cap barely covers the increases in pensions/tuition/salaries/benefits. The other is that we will never be able to pierce the tax cap because the voters in Tuckahoe don't see the importance of supporting their own district. Some people just feel that their taxes are too high (I guess they are compared to Southampton, but they're very low in comparison to the rest of Long Island), and many also feel that they don't want to pay higher taxes to educate immigrant children, which is incredibly short sighted. " Mar 15, 16 9:47 PM

Yes, the Rozzi days were out of control, and when the board at that time stuck their necks out to change that, the entire community jumped all over them, supported high union contracts and more spending. We are on the same page there. Now, get back into your DeLorean and lets talk about today. While I supported the merger in the past, I am ultimately thankful that it didn't go through. The district is doing well on its own, and hopefully they will bring back high school choice. For the record though, I am not a former educator, and am adamantly anti union, especially when it comes to the way too powerful teachers union. Clearly you have no idea what you're talking about, but that's nothing new." Mar 19, 16 11:08 AM

I don't think we really need to merge with anyone at this time. None of this affects my own children any longer." Mar 19, 16 11:09 AM

Furthermore Obbservant TODAY not in the Rozzi days, TCSD cost per pupil is lower than Bridghampton, Wainscott, Amagansett, Sagaponack, Quogue, Remsemberg, Montauk. It is only slightly higher than Southampton (which should enjoy a far lower per student rate based upon higher volume, small districts are always more expensive to run). This includes the three million we're paying in tuition to educate 140 kids in the high school. I believe it's yourself that is ill informed, and clearly living in the past." Mar 19, 16 11:28 AM

Thanks for another long dissertation that basically says nothing relevant to today. NYS released a report on school districts' financial health. That is where my information comes from, I am not pulling these things out of thin air. You are very far removed from the district, perhaps that's why you keep harping on Rozzi, that's where your interest and involvement began, and pretty much ended. I think it's ironic that you call me argumentative, yet write entire essays to respond to my short comments." Mar 20, 16 4:38 PM

Engineers To Collect Traffic Data In Southampton Town This Week In Preparation For County Road 39 Blinking Light Program

Those people will need to use Magee street, sending the majority of side street traffic in front of Tuckahoe School in the morning. while parents are dropping off students." Apr 12, 16 11:27 PM

If Blinking Light Program Is Successful, County Road 39 Could Get A New Underpass Instead Of Light

More affordable housing = more locals that can fill local jobs = less people coming in from points west = less traffic." Apr 21, 16 8:47 PM

Yeah, I can just picture the toll booths before the Westhampton exit, lol. Tolls would only make the traffic back up even further.
" Apr 21, 16 10:11 PM

You would create two backups..one before your nonsensical toll booths, the other going through Tuckahoe into Southampton. As long as all the traffic leads into one lane over by Pier One Imports, miles past your perceived toll booths, you will have a traffic jam. As far as partisan, I'm not sure what party you're talking about, I'm a republican who prefers to look at the big picture." Apr 22, 16 11:09 PM

Southampton School District Denies Press's Appeal Of Decision Not To Release Findings Of Investigation

Scandal? Seriously? Do you think it's the first time kids were caught cheating on an exam? Do you think it will be the last? It wasn't a state test or an SAT, but a routine exam, so I'm not sure what you think the cover up would be. Do you think the school board should now make public minor children's disciplinary records? Get over yourself.

" May 8, 16 9:50 PM

UPDATE: Southampton School District Voters Approve Parrish Art Museum Funding

Tuckahoe votes on the Parrish funding on budget vote day. To get a free resident membership to the Parrish, you can just go online. I'm not sure why they do the vote differently for SHSD residents. https://327.blackbaudhosting.com/327/Resident-Benefits" Jun 6, 16 9:20 PM

Second Tuckahoe School Budget Proposal Fails To Muster Enough Voter Support

Obbservant has been saying the same thing about the school board for years....there is only one Neanderthal on the board, the other members have routinely changed. As for letting others step in, nobody does. We have been running un opposed candidates that need to be urged to run again when nobody else steps up to the plate. I understand nobody wants higher taxes, and living next to one of the lowest taxed districts on Long Island doesn't help. It's somewhat counter productive to vote down reasonable budgets with tiny increases and ultimately hurts property values. " Jun 22, 16 8:45 AM

Obbservant, I don't have blinders on. I don't think it's a top notch education, but it does fulfill the needs of a community. A student can get as much or as little as they want from a school, it's in the hands of the families. IMO, there's a definite difference in the type of education that this community demands vs other up island schools. All your insulting comments don't change the fact that the community, in general, is happy with the quality of education (and many SHHS students attend excellent colleges). Would I love to have the quality of education and selection of courses that we see in Jericho or other excellent Nassau County districts? Of course. But if I put my home and property in that district, my taxes would quadruple. We all make choices in life. I came to this community understanding that I will get to live in a beautiful place near the sea, in a decent home, with property...we aren't overrun by strip malls and shopping meccas. I don't like Nassau County and the keeping up with the Joneses, it's simpler here. The schools are a reflection of the community. " Jun 22, 16 3:31 PM

Well said Rickenbacker. The only thing that will help the school realistically it to tuition the kids to Hampton Bays, then everyone who voted no can watch their property values fall. The state will step in, and realistically that's what they'll likely require, and it will save grades Pre-k through 8. IF that happens, the Tuckahoe community will be sorry they kept voting down budgets, and the Southampton community will be sorry to see their taxes go up when they lose their Tuckahoe Cash Cow.
" Jun 22, 16 8:33 PM

Exactly
" Jun 22, 16 10:48 PM

Not the same person, Obbservant doesn't live in the community any longer.
" Jun 23, 16 12:37 AM

The amusing part of all these comments is that the man who no longer even has his child in the school thinks it's a hellhole, a toxic cesspool, and writes non stop inflammatory rhetoric about what a horrible place it is, and makes fun of the locals (a bit Trump sounding IMO). The parents with kids in the school tell a completely different, far more positive story. I guess it's all perspective. " Jun 23, 16 10:35 PM

Shinnecock Hills Golf Club President Says Tuckahoe Road Proposal Is A Matter Of Safety

If they were worried about children, perhaps they should have found a safer place to put their "children's course" which most local kids will never experience. Closing that road would put more cars in front of Tuckahoe School and Montessori School. Let's not put a handful of wealthy golf club kids before the kids of our community!
" Jul 6, 16 11:14 PM

Southampton Resident Responds To Trump Criticism With A Bigger Sign

It's about free speech and freedom of expression, no matter which side you're on. Mr. Oliver handled it perfectly.
" Nov 4, 16 7:14 PM

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