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Sandy Hook Tragedy Is Felt At East End Schools

No offense, just the wrong thread." Dec 29, 12 6:21 PM

Stretch Of Flanders Road Reopened Morning After Crash That Pulled Down Wires; Driver Charged With DWI

Maybe we should ban alcohol....yeah, we know how that turned out." Dec 29, 12 9:42 PM

Sandy Hook Tragedy Is Felt At East End Schools

Great word Z" Dec 30, 12 2:54 PM

Um, no." Dec 30, 12 7:32 PM

Politicians, regardless of party, are an inept group who haven't given us even a glimpse of the know how or even the want to get us out of the mess that we are in. My guess is that we will stay in gradual decline for the foreseeable future." Dec 30, 12 8:40 PM

While I agree with Nature that to suggest Obummer has delegated all of his responsibilities is a stretch, I agree whole heartedly that he is a terrible leader. What he said yesterday was beyond ridiculous. If he isn't part of the solution then he is part of the problem." Jan 1, 13 3:20 PM

TCM, I think we agree that Biden is a clown, as is most of the current assministration. " Jan 1, 13 9:13 PM

I agree Joe, instead of worrying about their free s**t." Jan 1, 13 9:16 PM

Hey TCM, great avatar!!" Jan 1, 13 9:17 PM

Holy cow, talk about the pot calling the kettle black." Jan 2, 13 8:32 PM

A Plan To Make East Hampton's Duck Pond More Friendly To All

Wonder why there are so many rats in the surrounding areas?" Jan 3, 13 10:38 PM

House Of Representatives Approves Some Sandy Funding

Just like the TARP bill, right? Some of us know how that turned out." Jan 5, 13 4:12 PM

You continue to show how little you know." Jan 5, 13 4:13 PM

Great article that you posted in other thread Z" Jan 5, 13 6:57 PM

Sandy Hook Tragedy Is Felt At East End Schools

According to Gallup polls, armed guards at schools is more popular than banning assault weapons and the NRA is as popular as the President and three times as popular as Congress. Go figure with the great group we have running this country into the ground." Jan 6, 13 5:58 PM

Gallup had been pretty good. Not to say they haven't been wrong but they have the pulse more often than not." Jan 6, 13 7:43 PM

Sandy Hook Tragedy Is Felt At East End Schools

Haha, couldn't help myself Dan." Jan 9, 13 1:22 PM

Cops: Sag Harbor Woman Injured In North Haven Crash Stable, But Critical

You should ask a lawyer whether or not it is a good idea to be discussing your accident on a public forum. " Jan 9, 13 2:07 PM

Sandy Hook Tragedy Is Felt At East End Schools

In 2003, the Centers for Disease Control analyzed ammunition bans, restrictions on acquisition of firearms, waiting periods, registration, licensing, child access prevention and zero tolerance laws. After their analysis, the Centers for Disease Control concluded there was no conclusive evidence that any gun control laws reduced gun violence. Foreign researchers have also come to the same conclusion. In Australia in 2008, a peer reviewed study at the University of Sydney reached virtually the same conclusions as both the National Academy of Sciences and the Centers for Disease Control. Gun control measures simply do not reduce gun violence." Jan 9, 13 3:18 PM

Doubtful as they are way to sensitive. Someone's feelings might get hurt." Jan 10, 13 2:17 PM

'crickets'" Jan 10, 13 9:30 PM

"Large U.S. cities that the rest of the world used to look at in envy are now being transformed into gang-infested hellholes with skyrocketing crime rates. Cities such as Chicago, Detroit, Camden, East St. Louis, New Orleans and Oakland were once bustling with economic activity, but as industry has fled those communities poverty has exploded and so has criminal activity. Meanwhile, financial problems have caused all of those cities to significantly reduce their police forces. Sadly, this same pattern is being repeated in hundreds of communities all over the nation. The mainstream media loves to focus on mass shooters such as Adam Lanza, but the reality is that gang violence is a far greater problem in the United States than mass shooters ever will be. There are approximately 1.4 million gang members living in America today according to the FBI. That number has shot up by a whopping 40 percent just since 2009. There are several factors fueling this trend. Unemployment among our young people is at an epidemic level, about one out of every three U.S. children lives in a home without a father, and there are millions of young men who have come into this country illegally and have no way to legally support themselves once they arrive in our cities. Gangs provide a support system, a feeling of “community”, and a sense of purpose for many young people. Unfortunately, most of these gangs use violence and crime to achieve their goals, and they are taking over communities all over America. If your community is not a gang-infested war zone yet, you should consider yourself to be very fortunate. If nothing is done about this, the violence and the crime that is fueled by these gangs will continue to spread, and eventually nearly every single community in the United States will be affected by it."" Jan 10, 13 10:42 PM

"They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

~ Ben Franklin" Jan 10, 13 10:49 PM

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!"

~ Benjamin Franklin" Jan 10, 13 10:50 PM

Oh how cute, Z has a parrot." Jan 10, 13 11:04 PM

"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government."
- George Washington" Jan 10, 13 11:16 PM

"Good news -- it has become known that hidden deep within the massive 2800-page bill called Obamacare there is a Senate Amendment protecting the right to keep and bear arms.
It seems that in their haste to cram socialized medicine down the throats of the American people, then-Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and Barack Obama overlooked Senate amendment 3276, Sec. 2716, part c.
According to reports, that amendment says the government cannot use doctors to collect "any information relating to the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition."
CNN is calling it "a gift to the nation's powerful gun lobby."
And according to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV), that's exactly right. He says he added the provision in order to keep the NRA from getting involved in the legislative fight over Obamacare, which was so ubiquitous in 2010."" Jan 13, 13 10:47 AM

"To prohibit a citizen from wearing or carrying a war arm . . . is an unwarranted restriction upon the constitutional right to keep and bear arms. If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of constitutional privilege." [Wilson v. State, 33 Ark. 557, at 560, 34 Am. Rep. 52, at 54 (1878)]" Jan 14, 13 12:49 PM

You make broad statements consistent with a person ruled more by emotion than reality. One more time for the learning impaired, "gun control does not and will not prevent crime, especially mass shootings". Mass shootings are very rare occurrences. Not to say that they aren't horrifying and that they reveal the worst in us as a society but banning "assault(a term coined by politicians) weapons" will not help. All it does is take away our freedom and make us weaker, and that is a fact.

The Supreme Court has spoken on the matter recently(Heller) so please don't take some quote from Scalia and twist what he said because he wan't discussing rifles or handguns.

For the record, I am for much more stringent background checks with reasonable waiting periods(right now there is no waiting period in NY). High capacity mag bans means nothing as far as crime prevention. As soon as you make them illegal you will create a black market for them and the only people who will own them are the ones the new laws propose to prevent ownership to." Jan 14, 13 4:09 PM

Peoplefirst, what is your definition of an "assault weapons"? What criteria do you use to make this definition? What type of weapon would you be comfortable with law abiding citizens owning?" Jan 14, 13 4:12 PM

With proper training, that is any weapon. That could be done with a double barrel shotgun. You didn't answer my question(s) either because you know very little about firearms or because emotion won't allow you to think about it rationally( not to say that his makes you a bad person, just uninformed and perhaps susceptible to bad info) How will gun bans prevent future crime? Consider current drug laws and their effectiveness when answering.

That poll called approximately 1500 people on either there home line or cell line and asked for the youngest member of the household. Excuse me for questioning whether or not that represents popular views

I agree that making private gun sales and sales at gun shows subject to background checks, and laws to prevent people with mental illness from purchasing guns are a MUST but I have a feeling that as usual politicians will overreach and convince most people unfamiliar with firearms or basic freedoms that they are safer without guns.
" Jan 14, 13 4:48 PM

CaptainSig, this is why I asked for a definition. There really isn't a good or universal one as the term was coined by Democrats that were proposing the 1994 bill. The term, assault weapon, when used in the context of assault weapon laws refers primarily (but not exclusively) to semi-automatic firearms that possess the cosmetic features of an assault rifle that is fully automatic.

Most of the defining characteristics(pistol grip, telescoping stock, bayonet lug, flash suppressor, etc.) included in the AWB do not hinder or enhance the weapons’ effectiveness or accuracy. While semi-automatic weapons can be fired faster than other firearms, a large number of semi-automatic rifles, pistols and shotguns remained legal in the U.S. after the adoption of the AWB.

The AR-15, one of the rifles that became an assault weapon with the passage of the AWB because of its physical characteristics, is a .223 caliber. The .223 is smaller and less lethal than many rifle calibers. In most states, a .223 is not permitted for hunting big game because of the caliber’s ineffectiveness at bringing down animals such as deer and elk.

The legislators based their definitions off of what they saw in movies more than what was real. There are plenty of rifles and calibers that are far more devastating that don't fall into the class of "assault weapons". But let's not let facts get in the way of hysteria.

At the end of the day, I think we all want the same thing - to be safe. We just have different ideas of how to get there." Jan 14, 13 8:22 PM

The Supreme Court, which is made up of people only slightly smarter than you disagree. What part of that confuses you?" Jan 15, 13 12:12 AM

NYS just passed the most stringent gun control laws in the country. Knew that was coming." Jan 15, 13 12:15 AM

Think of all of the lives that were just saved by this well thought out, well meaning legislation. What a joke. I am sure criminals everywhere are terrified of being charged with a misdemeanor for having more than 7 rounds." Jan 15, 13 2:13 PM

Texas is where me and the wife will be retiring to. Unfortunately not for about 10 years though. Keep a seat warm for me." Jan 15, 13 7:59 PM

Why, would they look like you?" Jan 15, 13 9:40 PM

Hello kettle, meet pot." Jan 15, 13 9:41 PM

Here is an interesting fact for the gun haters. FBI crime statistics show that more people are murdered by clubs and hammers than rifles and shotguns. But don't let the facts get in the way of delusion.
" Jan 15, 13 10:08 PM

Yep, proud to be." Jan 16, 13 8:55 PM

Heaney Returns To Southampton Town Hall To Advocate For Business

People don't rule without the consent of the ruled. We have allowed leaders to get away with this stuff for a long time. It is almost expected and they know it. How to change it is the hard question." Jan 16, 13 10:59 PM

Sandy Hook Tragedy Is Felt At East End Schools

On that recommendation PBR, I'm going to have a drink. :)" Jan 16, 13 11:02 PM

Wow. Obama has had a lot of time to look and look and ruminate and that's all he could come up with. Smoke, mirrors and a whole lot of nothing. Only thing of any consequence is 10 round mag limit and that's not gonna pass congress. Hopefully all this leads to is 2014 midterm backlash which could turn Obama into a lame duck." Jan 17, 13 10:56 AM

Gun owners aren't just on the right and I for damn sure don't want to shoot Americans. I am "pro life" in that I want to protect my life and my family's lives. Do I think I will ever have to use my Ar-15, I hope not, but I want it in case I do because it is my right, just like free speech, religion, freedom from unlawful search and seizure, etc. It doesn't make me a bad person. I am not a risk to anyone else because I own guns(unless you break into my house). I have owned guns for over 10 years without a hiccup.

You can't just change the constitution on a whim. It is easy to blame the guns. Blame the whacko and do something about him. NYS was less concerned with mental health and more concerned with turning law abiding, tax paying citizens into criminals. That is tyranny. They did nothing to prevent crime. " Jan 17, 13 8:57 PM

I don't crave a revolution, never have." Jan 17, 13 9:48 PM

So you advocate rolling over against tyranny?

I don't crave it but I advocate retaining the right to prepared against it. There is a difference. You know it but because of your debating style, you brush it to the side in favor of confrontation. Sometimes you have to try look at it from someone else's side." Jan 17, 13 10:16 PM

President Barack Obama this month proposed plans to expand loan modifications, including some principal reductions.

I'll believe it when I see it." Jan 17, 13 10:27 PM

Nice spin job. How are we advocating "tyranny over others"? How would it be tyranny for us to keep our 2A rights intact? 2A doesn't grant or confer special rights. You have a right not to be armed, that's your choice.

BTW, who suggested shooting other Americans, I can't find that post?" Jan 18, 13 8:52 AM

Two-out-of-three Americans recognize that their constitutional right to own a gun was intended to ensure their freedom.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 65% of American Adults think the purpose of the Second Amendment is to make sure that people are able to protect themselves from tyranny. Only 17% disagree, while another 18% are not sure. " Jan 18, 13 12:24 PM

He didn't define anything. What he stated was that limitations can and will be defined by future cases( note he didn't say state laws). He said nothing about "assault weapons"

Just goes to show you will take any info, twist it, and then deliver your interpretation of it as if it was fact. That is called spreading misinformation at best and flat out lying at worst." Jan 18, 13 3:16 PM

VOS, I agree with most of what you posted. I have stated before that I am all for stricter licensing requirements, better background checks, reasonable waiting periods. These things work. Banning does not, IMO and I have yet to find any research that suggests that it does. History shows us that making things illegal only takes thing out of law abiding citizens hands and creates a black market for more criminal activity. Do you honestly think that a criminal cares about 7 round limits? If the sole purpose of the new legislation was to make people safer then they failed

I absolutely think that we have to keep in mind what the framers of the Constitution intent was. We don't get to just discard what we don't like and keep what we do and thankfully SCOTUS agrees." Jan 18, 13 6:09 PM

PBR, I don't understand what that means. " Jan 18, 13 6:11 PM

"I was listening to drive time radio yesterday and heard the best analogy of how Obama is playing the gun control game.

He's like the worst of the oldtime sleazy carnival preachers. You know, the folks that would pray for healing or for rain saying "if you have enough faith" you will be healed or the rains will come. If the healing or rain doesn't come, then he blames you for not having enough faith . . . because he did his job.

The analogy to Obama is that if his executive orders don't work and if Congress doesn't pass the gun ban, then when the next horrible shooting occurs its (the Republican-controlled) Congress' fault for not passing the gun ban and its a federal agency's fault for not implementing the executive order . . . because he did his job."" Jan 18, 13 8:48 PM

Ah, got it. Thanks for the clarification." Jan 19, 13 8:34 AM

I like the way you do business!! ;)" Jan 19, 13 3:08 PM

Crescendo Designs Celebrates 10 Years In Business

I know Chris. He works his tail off and deserves everything he has gotten. Hard work pays of." Jan 20, 13 12:05 AM

Sandy Hook Tragedy Is Felt At East End Schools

"The five worst mass killings, where a firearm was used, have a common thread. Hint #1: They didn’t belong to the NRA. They don’t fit the stereotype of the “red-neck” gun owner.

Check it out …

Ft Hood: Registered Democrat/Muslim.
Columbine: Too young to vote; both families were registered Democrats and progressive liberals.
Virginia Tech: Wrote hate mail to President Bush and to his staff.
Colorado Theater: Registered Democrat; staff worker on the Obama campaign; Occupy Wall Street participant; progressive liberal.
Connecticut School Shooter: Registered Democrat; hated Christians.

Common thread is that all of these shooters were progressive liberal Democrats.

Also, of the worst killings in the last several decades, only one was a female, all the rest were boys, barely men. Their role models were rappers, action movies, comics and violent video games.

Our problem isn’t weapons, it’s boys without boundaries. Who live in ‘progressive’ households."" Jan 20, 13 9:02 PM

House Of Representatives OKs $50 Billion Sandy Aid Bill; Will Go To U.S. Senate

Not a big deal TB considering SHNative usually posts out of emotion instead of logic and reason. Read the bill, then come back here and post about how great it is. Would be terrific if all $50 bil were going towards hurricane relief. Big surprise that it is not. Here is a challenge. When you post, actually try to incorporate some fact into your thinking instead of pure emotion. Oh and for the record, I can't stand Rush Limbaugh." Jan 20, 13 9:55 PM

Geez guys, are we really arguing whose fault it is. When do we finally come to the conclusion that the political system is broken and that almost none of them have our best interest at heart. That isn't the way "their" system works. There are a lot of reasons why it has gotten to this point. It is partly our fault as politicians cannot rule without consent of the ruled and we have allowed them to pull the wool over our eyes." Jan 20, 13 9:59 PM

The system, as it was intended, would work fine. Politicians need to be held accountable. For the most part a small percentage of voters actually pay attention or raise a stink and when they do the outcry is usually short lived. Apathy towards the system is what enables it. I'm sure there are good, qualified people that would do the job but they aren't running because they are smart enough to stay out of that mess. " Jan 21, 13 8:51 AM

George Carlin was hilarious.
" Jan 21, 13 9:14 AM

Sandy Hook Tragedy Is Felt At East End Schools

"Forget Wal-Mart and skip your local gun show. The murderers of tomorrow will not be found wearing orange vests at your local sporting goods store. They won’t have NRA memberships or trophies on their walls.

You won’t find them in America. Look for them in Obamerica.

67% of firearm murders took place in the country’s 50 largest metro areas. The 62 cities in those metro areas have a firearm murder rate of 9.7, more than twice the national average. Among teenagers the firearm murder rate is 14.6 or almost three times the national average.

Those are the crowded cities of Obamerica. Those are the places with the most restrictive gun control laws and the highest crime rates. And many of them have been run by Democrats and their political machines for almost as long as they have been broken.

Obama won every major city in the election, except for Jacksonville and Salt Lake City. And the higher the death rate, the bigger his victory.

He won New Orleans by 80 to 17 where the murder rate is ten times higher than the national average. He won Detroit, where the murder rate of 53 per 100,000 people is the second highest in the country and twice as high as any country in the world, including the Congo and South Africa. He won it 73 to 26. And then he celebrated his victory in Chicago where the murder rate is three times the statewide average.

These places aren’t America. They’re Obamerica.

In 2006, the 54% of the population living in those 50 metro areas was responsible for 67% of armed killings nationwide. Those are disproportionate numbers especially when you consider that for the people living in most of those cities walking into a store and legally buying a gun is all but impossible.

Mayors of Obamerican cities blame guns because it’s easier than blaming people and now the President of Obamerica has turned to the same shameless tactic. The NRA counters that people kill people, but that’s exactly why Obamerican leaders would rather talk about the guns.

Chicago, the capital of Obamerica, is a city run by gangs and politicians. It has 68,000 gang members, four times the number of police officers. Chicago politicians solicit the support of gang members in their campaigns, accepting laundered contributions from them, hiring their members and tipping them off about upcoming police raids. And their biggest favor to the gang bosses is doing nothing about the epidemic of gang violence.

80% of Chicago’s murders are gang-related. But in 1999 when a bill came up in the Illinois State Senate to charge anyone carrying out a firearm attack on school property as an adult, a law that would have largely affected gang members, the future leader of Obamerica voted present. Had he not voted present, it is doubtful that he would have been reelected in an area where gang leaders wield a great deal of influence.

The majority of murders in the cities with the worst homicide rates are gang-related. And while it isn’t always possible to be certain whether a killing was gang-related, the majority of homicide victims in city after city have been found to have criminal records.

In 2010, there were 11,078 firearm homicides in the United States and over 2,000 known gang-related killings, over 90% of which are carried out with firearms. Since 1981, Los Angeles alone has had 16,000 gang related homicides. That’s more than twice the number of Americans killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.

This is what Obamerica looks like. It’s a place where life is cheap and illegal guns are as available as illegal drugs. It’s the war that we aren’t talking about, because it’s easier to talk about the inanimate objects being used to fight that war.

There are, as John Edwards said, two Americas. America is a country that runs pretty well. And then there’s Obamerica. Not all of Obamerica is broken, but a lot of it is. America does not have a gun violence problem. Obamerica does. And Obamerica has a gun violence problem for the same reason that it has a drug problem and a broken family problem.

Democratic leaders and machines, combined with social workers and justice crusaders have run Obamerica into the ground. Obamerican cities used to be the homes of industry and progress. Now they’re places where young Black and Hispanic men kill each other in growing numbers.

America does not need gun control. It is a mostly law-abiding place. And gun control cannot help Obamerica. Not when its murder rate is driven by gangs who have no trouble obtaining anything; whether it’s legal in the United States or not.

This country does not need to have a conversation about how many bullets should go in a clip. It does need to have a conversation about how many parents should go in a family. It needs to talk about the ghettos of Obamerica and have a serious conversation about broken families and generational dependency.

Obama has become a role model to millions of people in the black community. If anyone can address these problems, it’s him. But instead of trying to solve the problems of Obamerica, instead of doing something about the high levels of unemployment, the broken families and the glamorization of drug dealing and violent crime, he wimped out and picked a fight with rural America.

AIDS prevention was sabotaged by the claim that the disease was a general problem spreading through the population. It wasn’t. Neither is gun violence.

Adam Lanza is as much of a poster boy for gun violence, as Ryan White was for AIDS. A better poster boy for gun violence might be Jay-Z, who boasts of having been a drug dealer and claims to have shot his brother at the age of 12. The drug dealer to millionaire rapper is the Horatio Alger story of Obamerica. And Jay-Z can be seen partying with Obama.

If Obama really wants to get serious about gun violence, then all he has to do is turn to the man standing next to him. But Obama, like every Chicago politician before him, don’t want to end the violence. The death toll is profitable, not just for rappers writing bad poetry about dealing drugs and shooting rivals, but for the politicians atop that heap who score money and gain power by using the problems of Obamerica as some sort of call to conscience for the rest of the country.

That’s what Obama is doing now. Hiding behind Newtown and adorable little kids is the grim specter of Obamerica’s death toll. It’s buried inside the gruesome figures of how many Americans are shot each year issued as an indictment against the entire country in general and gun owners in particular. But those numbers are not an indictment of America. They are an indictment of Democratic mayors and liberal social policy. They are an indictment of Obama.

We need to set aside the same old tired social justice rhetoric and have a serious conversation about what is wrong with New Orleans, Detroit and Chicago. And we need to do it before it’s too late."" Jan 21, 13 1:26 PM

House Of Representatives OKs $50 Billion Sandy Aid Bill; Will Go To U.S. Senate

Haha, we all have our crosses to bear." Jan 21, 13 3:22 PM

Hampton Bays Civic Renews Talks Of Incorporation

Good points Nature!" Jan 22, 13 2:05 PM

Sandy Hook Tragedy Is Felt At East End Schools

I think it is splitting hairs to argue landslide vs decisive. Obama whupped up on Romney. I believe I voted for the correct candidate and most did not. We had better concentrate on getting the latino vote or we may never win again and then we will have to rely on Congress having a R majority. I don't like that plan at all." Jan 22, 13 2:13 PM

Not exactly a mass shooting." Jan 22, 13 6:00 PM

Reality, it was a 14th amendment issue." Jan 22, 13 6:01 PM

No, it counts but by definition it is not a mass shooting. But as usual I guess we go by whatever definition serves your argument." Jan 22, 13 8:47 PM

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