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Oct 27, 2010 9:56 AMPublication: The Southampton Press

Former President Bill Clinton Will Stump For Congressman Bishop On Wednesday

Oct 27, 2010 9:56 AM

Former President Bill Clinton was scheduled to appear with U.S. Representative Tim Bishop for a “get out the vote” rally at Stony Brook University yesterday, Wednesday, October 27—less than a week before the congressman will seek reelection to his fifth term of office.

The rally took place at Stony Brook University’s indoor sports complex.

Mr. Bishop, a Democrat from Southampton, is running against Randy Altschuler, a Republican from St. James, for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives. Election Day is Tuesday, November 2.

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Does sound more and more like this race will be very tight. If it was 12% as siena polled dems wouldnt bother pulling out the big guns
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Oct 26, 10 7:20 PM
Start packing Bishop, your done! More wasting tax payer money, Clinton and his secret service how much is that costing. Stay home Bill and save the tax payer money.
By reg rep (408), Southampton on Oct 26, 10 7:33 PM
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By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Oct 26, 10 7:39 PM
Timothy Bishop on
Voted NO on restricting interstate transport of minors to get abortions. (Apr 2005)
Voted YES on $192B additional anti-recession stimulus spending. (Jul 2009)
Voted YES on modifying bankruptcy rules to avoid mortgage foreclosures. (Mar 2009)
Voted YES on additional $825 billion for economic recovery package. (Jan 2009)
Voted YES on monitoring TARP funds to ensure more mortgage relief. (Jan 2009)
Voted YES on $15B bailout for GM and Chrysler. (Dec 2008) ...more
By 27dan (2854), Southampton on Oct 26, 10 10:44 PM
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Have you looked at the dominant "yay" vote, on each of those issues?

Look at the Congressional vote tally, yay vs. nay, before you talk smack about Tim.

Majority rules, right?
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Oct 27, 10 3:51 PM
holy mackeral! this is fantastic news, it means they expect to lose. by sending clinton, they don't mind how it looks when he goes down. they aren't sending the big guns...hide your daughters and wives - bubba is coming to the campus!

comes out today that all of the pimping of the tarp and stimulus was all lies! shocking. aig gets bailed out by tim because it handles the majority of union pensions.

if you want more frivolous spending, more unethical burning of your hard earned ...more
By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 27, 10 6:12 AM
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Whatever your politics if you have the chance to go see former President Clinton speak in person you should take it. I never understood the word "charisma" until I saw him speak in person.
By davidf (325), hampton bays on Oct 27, 10 7:50 AM
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The Independent endorsed Congressman Tim Bishop every time he ran, noting his commitment to and familiarity with the East End and his ability to focus on constituents and not photo opportunities. Bishop jumped on the Obama wagon early on, and blindly supported the president's initiatives. That's understandable -- Obama was riding an unprecedented wave of popularity, and there is little doubt Bishop was swept up in the euphoria. It soon became apparent, though, that the new administration was throwing ...more
By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 27, 10 7:50 AM
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Read that as well. Really hit the nail on the head
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Oct 27, 10 9:25 AM
You really don't understand deregulation, and the "free market", do you?
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Oct 27, 10 5:30 PM
Glad to see that a visit by Clinton can still drive the right crazy! Excellent news Mr. Bishop. Can't wait to pull the lever for you this Tuesday!
By dagdavid (646), southampton on Oct 27, 10 8:35 AM
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DUCK! Rightie heads exploding! HAH! I love it. Absolutely wonderful that they are still so afraid of Bill Clinton that they are foaming at the mouth!
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 27, 10 8:53 AM
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I did not have relations with that woman
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Oct 27, 10 9:26 AM
I WILL guarantee you have never had such power, nor been tempted, as such...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Oct 27, 10 4:31 PM
you have gloating mixed up with foaming at the mouth. i'm not so sure the folks posting this morning seem that scared and driven crazy about the appearance of bubba. by always presuming your opposition is dopey and gullible, you have handed the righties a big victory after taking over d.c. lock, stock and barrell. they/we are beating you at your own game i.e. the subversive, well monied ''grass roots'' groups, the online organization - all of it. and without the media. mental preservation will ...more
By yessiree (78), Southampton on Oct 27, 10 9:33 AM
from the "bigger they are the harder they fall" files"

Former President Bill Clinton’s ‘get out the vote’ rally for Democrats at a downtown Chicago hotel was the most unenthusiastic WLS veteran political reporter Bill Cameron has ever witnessed.

Clinton was an hour late for the Tuesday afternoon rally at the Palmer House and droned on for another hour, sending dozens of the few hundred Democrats in attendance for the exits.

The state's most popular Democrat Lisa Madigan ...more
By yessiree (78), Southampton on Oct 27, 10 9:49 AM
... anybody of consequence stumping for Randy? Is he gonna' do it on his own? Gingrich, O'Reilly, Palin, Rove, Limbaugh, Beck... nobody? I hope they haven't already conceded. What's up with that? We need to here from these Altshuler supporters!
By William Rodney (561), southampton on Oct 27, 10 11:02 AM
yeah, he has santa clause and big bird. bishop has clinton, pelosi, the media, the schools, music idols and he's got you and a bunch of hedgefund traders.

but nonetheless, randy is within striking distance by any poll's margin of error.

unfortunately, the template you so dearly want to rest your cap on doesn't exist except on the daily kos and msnbc. so, it wouldn't matter what those folks say, if you want to vote for my children and grandchildren, please vote for randy. if ...more
By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 27, 10 11:26 AM
The "failure" began before Tim even took office...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Oct 27, 10 4:51 PM
That 3.8% tax ONLY applies if you exceed the capital gains limitations.

It doesn't affect the MAJORITY of the nation, where the vast majority of homes cost LESS than 250k, or 500k if you are married filing jointly. Those are the thresholds. If your house is worth more than 500k, and you are married, then worry about that tax. You can also thank Wall St., and it's deregulated practices, for those sky high prices.

This is your brain on "tea".

Any questions?
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Oct 28, 10 12:09 PM
Not a question, but a comment. We are talking about Bishop and the people in the area he represents. The people of his district will be very heavily affected by this new tax, since most homes on long island in decent neighborhoods do fall into the 250k/500K bracket. I do like Bishop, but on this one I have to say that he did not act in the best interest of his constituents.
By Academics (14), Southampton on Oct 31, 10 9:58 PM
Yea....Why do you support a man who has made millions outsourcing American Jobs, and who just moved here two years ago?
"Randy" knows Mumbai better than he knows Montauk!
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Oct 27, 10 11:39 AM
As much as I hate to admit it, she put up with Bill, and his philandering way.

That should tell you something...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Oct 27, 10 4:53 PM
... no, you've answered them all , Randy.
By William Rodney (561), southampton on Oct 27, 10 11:42 AM
I wonder if Bishop and Clinton would be so interested in getting young people to vote if young people wanted to vote for the other side?
By Blackjordan (15), Sag Harbor on Oct 27, 10 12:00 PM
He was certainly the greatest president in my life time.
I'm glad he is coming, but Bishop is way ahead and job shipping
Randy is quite transparent and finished.
By Steven (113), Westhampton on Oct 27, 10 12:08 PM
maybe if you see him you can thank him for the current state of the economy. It was his expansion of Fannie Mae and Fredie Mac that lead to this mess in the first place. Or maybe you should tell him what a great role model and example he has set for you. Its always great when you are the president and you committ perjury.
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Oct 27, 10 12:32 PM
Hah! Razza, that is some of the best revisionist history I have ever read! Blame Clinton for leaving Bush a 250 billion dollar surplus?! I think you had a bit too much tea at that party! You are funny. You really are.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 27, 10 1:34 PM
Was Clinton not responsible for expanding the roles of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac? His policy of every American should own a home whether they can afford ot or not let to the housing collapse which indirectly led to TARP, the selling of mortgage tranches and our current economic situation. Anyone who wants a real history leason should google on Youtube Fannie Mae 2004 hearings. Its an eye opener
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Oct 27, 10 2:04 PM
Because Greenspan ("god") said so...
Oct 27, 10 4:11 PM appended by Mr. Z
That "surplus", was FAKE derivatives driven capital. It didn't exist, except on paper...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Oct 27, 10 4:11 PM
Lets see, bush was president for 8 years and did nothing. If policies were flawed it is the job of the sitting president to fix them, Bush doesn't get a pass go free card.
By sunshine (47), southampton on Nov 1, 10 12:09 PM
wiliam, do you have anything to say? you ought to change your vote. and for those of you that think clinton was the best president in your lifetime? jeeezus. just because the ny times didn't sound your warning, doesn't mean he wasn't terrible for this country. ever wonder how he could claim a balanced budget yet run the deficit into the ground? read up on that, in perhaps the biggest Ponzi scheme in history, he robbed the social security trust fund until there was nothing left and then borrowed ...more
By yessiree (78), Southampton on Oct 27, 10 1:13 PM
Every President has his advisors, and Greenspan, et al. convinced Clinton that deregulation was the best thing for society, and the economy.

Bill did ALOT of good things, and bad things (Lewinsky, GLBA, harumph...)

Fact remains, will we allow another "outsider", who couldn't win in his own disrict in New Jersey, to represent US?
Oct 27, 10 3:57 PM appended by Mr. Z
If you want to let this guy use our district as a "stepping stone", to fulfill his delusions of political grandeur, vote for Altschuler. I'll almost guarantee you that is all he sees District 1 as. A "stepping stone"...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Oct 27, 10 3:57 PM
Dr. Z, Just curious how did you feel about Hilary Clinton representing you as a senator in NY? Thought so
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Oct 27, 10 4:05 PM
I didn't like it much, but she's not doing a poor job as Secretary of State. She really is a "take no nonsense" kind of woman. Altschuler is not either by proxy. A woman, or proven he is "take no nonsense".

Randy, I would wonder what he has to offer "down the road".
Oct 27, 10 4:09 PM appended by Mr. Z
Is this guy gonna' have a "heart to heart" with Eddie Lampert, and say everyone I work with needs a raise? I can't put my faith in that long a shot, and I ALWAYS shoot out the star at the carnival...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Oct 27, 10 4:09 PM
My name is the Madhatter and I am the local teaparty chairman - Lunatics welcome!
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 27, 10 2:47 PM
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Had to chuckle...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Oct 27, 10 4:10 PM
no, my name is yessiree, and you have been rendered impotent. power to the people, don't delay. T-5 days. The senate will remain with the libs, but only by 1 or 2 people, the governors will turn significantly towards the right.

luckily, we'll still be able to blame the libs when the shady attorney from chi-town is up for his re-annointing. methings, nobody will be fainting the next time around.
By yessiree (78), Southampton on Oct 27, 10 3:52 PM
Do all of you listen to yourselves?

Democrat, Republican, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

Think for YOURSELF, read the Congresional vote tally, and for once, don't let a "rich" interloper into our district. This guy Altschuler, represents EVERYTHING, every facet of our society that not only overdeveloped the East End, but decimated it' middle class economy.

That's all I can say about that...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Oct 27, 10 3:54 PM
Thats right Dr Z. Tell all those rich folks to go someplace else. That will do wonders for the middle class out here
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Oct 27, 10 4:09 PM
We did fine for HUNDREDS of years as a not only a farming community, but as the middle class who planted, built barns, fixed pipes, and air conditioned.

Do we need the 'wealthy"?

To a point, "yes".

To the point at which they now currently exist here?

Oct 27, 10 4:13 PM appended by Mr. Z
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Oct 27, 10 4:13 PM
Small business, services industries, and laborers would be crushed not to mention the loss of tax revenue they bring (after all you want to tax themm 75%) .Again you are living in the middle ages.
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Oct 27, 10 4:45 PM
The system we exist in, has doubled disparity between the middle class, and the "upper crust" since 1970.

There was a great Citibank memo on Plutonomy you should read, before you spout what I propose as tax hikes.

Our system is fundamentally broken. It has been for at least thirty years. You cannot break the backbone of your "middle class", and expect to be competitive. "A brilliant mind, is a terrible thing to waste."

Many of the most brilliant scientific minds have ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Oct 27, 10 5:02 PM
P.S. Altschuler is NOT from St. James...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Oct 27, 10 4:37 PM
then when you vote for tim, you should do it in memory of those that enjoyed those fine years from 1640 to the early to mid 18th century when those evil thousandaires (no inflation yet) bumped on out west in those fancy horse drawn carriages.
By yessiree (78), Southampton on Oct 27, 10 4:40 PM
Talk about "livin' in the past..."...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Oct 27, 10 4:43 PM
obviously he was being sarcast. Keep talking about the Glass Steagall act, getting rid of rich people, deregulation and how things were 100 years ago.
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Oct 27, 10 4:51 PM
If you think for one second, that the accruement of monetary wealth should be the "measure of a man" in our current society, then you have my pity.

Without question.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Oct 27, 10 5:12 PM
I'll bet you call a serviceman, every time something breaks where you live, right?


What is the "measure of a man"?

Independence, or monetary wealth?
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Oct 27, 10 5:14 PM
If you think for one moment, Altschuler has your "best interests" at heart, I pity you.

Tim's heart is here. Tim was born HERE. People are not static, and if you're lucky, they're dynamic. Not only in a literary sense, but in a real sense.

Times change, people change. Experience is the best teacher.

If you want to "start over", vote Altschuler. If you want to give a man who has done the best he can, and gains experience, and clout, with every term, vote for Tim...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Oct 27, 10 4:47 PM
You can't be serious. Do you really believe Timmy has your best interest at heart because he's local. He voted for health care knowing it was bad for new yorkers, he accepted tax cheat dollars from rangel, he has never in his life created a private sector job, he helped drive Southampton college in the ground, he votes for every spending program known to mankind. It's time for Timmy to go
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Oct 27, 10 6:26 PM
Over 90% of Congress voted in favor of that bill.

This is your brain on the "tea".

Any questions?
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Oct 27, 10 9:57 PM
Funny to see the local fundamentalists bashing Clinton. He signed their beloved NAFTA and Gramm–Leach–Bliley acts - both conservative bellwethers - into law.
By Noah Way (450), Southampton on Oct 27, 10 6:09 PM
5 more days to a better world
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Oct 27, 10 9:04 PM
boy do you have a short memory. The world was better before the bush years; now thinking people are trying to put it right again. Look at when the deficits began, look at the when the financial crisis began, look at how the rest of the world views the US; and thank the bush conservative years for this. The rich got richer, the deficit got bigger and the middle class suffered.
By sunshine (47), southampton on Nov 1, 10 12:06 PM
a return to conservatism? you're drunk by 7:05pm. what from bush!? hahahaha, that dolt wasn't a conservative. experience is the best teacher? oh no, you've all lost your mind. obama is the best president ever and he has no experience at all? and hillary is the best rep. ny ever had.

and latinos and hispanics on the yankees and mets deserve to play on the new york team even though they don't live in their parents house in the village.

and a measure of a man is whatever that ...more
By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 27, 10 9:05 PM
Bishop has created tons of jobs at Brookhaven Lab, the dredging of the Shinnecock Canal (which helps all of Long Island with PRIVATE sector jobs and revenue) and Bishop got the most education aid in all of NY to save local tax dollars.-
By SunriseHwy (14), Mattituck on Oct 27, 10 11:17 PM
Randy has only lived on Long Island for TWO years, he is a NJ native. He is a multi-millionaire who made his money by Outsourcing thousands of American jobs to INDIA with his company- Office Tiger! (and his new fliers lie and say that Tim wants to send jobs to China? WRONG).--------The WORSE is that Altshculer is a true believer in Paul Ryan's ideas of getting rid of medicare (and all public programs)- and if you don't believe me listen to his OWN words- go to Youtube and search under; Altschuler ...more
By SunriseHwy (14), Mattituck on Oct 27, 10 11:19 PM
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65 + seats
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Oct 27, 10 11:36 PM
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By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 28, 10 6:17 AM
cap'n america - thats a terrible development, but not surprising. at the end of the day, obama's youthful anger, uncontrollable resentment, negative thought processes and amateurish style will be his downfall. karma and the universe rejects that level of thorough disgust and negativity. that is never a winning strategy, the anger, the put downs the disdain. its just not a winning proposition on the world stage of power. its a weak stance generated by fear, misunderstanding and childhood mental ...more
By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 28, 10 6:23 AM
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By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 28, 10 7:12 AM
October 28, 2010 6:30 am Poll: Independents Drive GOP Midterm Advantage
(Credit: CBS) With the midterm elections less than a week away, a new CBS News/New York Times poll finds that Republicans continue to hold a steep advantage over Democrats in the generic House ballot. Forty-six percent of likely voters say they plan to vote Republican, while 37 percent say they will vote Democrat.The advantage can be attributed in large part to independents, who are breaking hard for the GOP.
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Oct 28, 10 10:04 AM
CBS News' 2010 National House Model: What Does the National House Vote Mean?
A majority of likely voters say their House vote is a referendum on President Obama, and more are voting against the president than for him. Thirty-four percent are casting a vote against Mr. Obama, while 22 percent are casting their vote to support him. Forty-two percent say their vote is about something else
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Oct 28, 10 10:04 AM
the truth comes out, the only reason clinton came to support bishop was because he supported hillary, not because he wants obama's agenda to survive.
By dylan32 (64), east hampton on Oct 28, 10 10:28 AM
Frankly Sir, You Are an Embarrassment

Al Gore -- He did it again.

Recently, Nobel Peace Prize winner Al Gore toured again. Or maybe he does that all the time. This time, he turned up in Gothenburg (Sweden) for the usual alarmist talk. In advance, all distinguished guests were politely advised to – if possible – use any form of public transportation to go to the event, in order to minimize CO2 emissions.

Intriguingly, the Master of World Climate himself arrived in a rental ...more
By dylan32 (64), east hampton on Oct 28, 10 11:07 AM
BOSTON | Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:01am EDT
BOSTON (Reuters) - Representative Barney Frank, the outspoken, Democrat closely tied to the 2008 U.S. bank bailout, faces a tough re-election battle after 15 terms in office
Challenging the Massachusetts liberal is Republican Sean Bielat, an Iraq war veteran, and opinion polls suggest Franks narrow lead is evaporating.Frank has faced a torrent of negative ads and mailings, much of it from groups outside the state who support candidates from the conservative ...more
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Oct 28, 10 11:24 AM
Its starting to resemble a Monty Python skit "Bring out your dead"
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Oct 28, 10 11:26 AM
Let's see now. Altscshuler says he's "Pro-Life", yet he had no idea what the 1976 Hyde Amendment was about. Didn't even know what it was. And, his wife is a doctor.

Things that make you go "Hmmmmmm..." .
Oct 28, 10 11:51 AM appended by Mr. Z
And, if you have not read James MacMillan's "letter to the editor", "Don't Get Fooled AGAIN" in the Independent, it comes highly recommended...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Oct 28, 10 11:51 AM
They do it to me all the time Maybe Dr Z is a SHP employee
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Oct 28, 10 5:53 PM
Mine get deleted now and then too.

And no, I'm not an employee. I just tend to be lucid, factual, and honest when I post.

Maybe I've earned their respect.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 1, 10 8:01 PM
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Nov 1, 10 8:16 PM
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By oldguy (60), hamptons on Oct 30, 10 2:14 PM
WOW___L'il Tim gets an endorsement from an IMPEACHED president. Gotta love those Demokratz!
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Oct 31, 10 9:19 AM
I am a democrat , But i don't vote strait party lines. I don't know what randy will do in office , but i know what has happened on Tim's watch. When you want change it has to start at home.Our local representatives are our voices and if they are not saying what we want said then they must be replaced , no matter how comfortable i have become with them. I don't feel that the voice of the little man is being heard in Washington. I am willing to take a chance as opposed to just staying the course. ...more
By frank84 (10), hampton bays on Nov 1, 10 6:35 PM
With all the propaganda, and slinging of mud back and forth, people seem to have forgotten how the lack of regulation in the financial industry has led us to where we are.

Corruption is more rampant in the banking industry, than our Government by comparison.

Charles Schumer was actually the most responsible for taking all the "bite" out of the Wall St. Reform Bill, in case anyone wondered. You put the "Republicans" back in charge, and you'll see the same, if not more fiscal shenanigans ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 1, 10 8:05 PM
Before we start placing blame around lets not forget Dems have been in charge of the house and Senate for the last 6 years
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Nov 2, 10 10:37 AM
It is amazing to lme to see how dense you are when it comes to politics. Do you forget the good years we had with Bill Clinton? Oh, I'm sorry I forgot YOUR Republicanis bllinds you to the REAL facts. The REAL facts of 8 years of Republican rule which got us into this mess. The Republicans, Dummy, are the ones who want to take all and leave the poor majority in the lerch.
If one listens ONLY to FOX then one is hidding one's head in the sand.
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Nov 2, 10 4:28 PM
Are you NUTS
By oldguy (60), hamptons on Nov 2, 10 10:30 PM
Well, it was a Republican Congress who passed the GLBA, and the Services Modernization Act.

Any questions?
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 4, 10 5:08 PM