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May 26, 2010 11:15 AMPublication: The Southampton Press

Forum on proposed Tuckahoe shopping complex planned for June 1

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May 26, 2010 11:15 AM

Next week’s community meeting on the proposed shopping center called Tuckahoe Main Street, which is scheduled for Tuesday, June 1, will likely be a raucous and heated one.

Many in the community have already united against the proposal, which calls for the construction of a King Kullen, as many as four restaurants, more than 10 retail shops and a dozen apartments on a 12.4-acre parcel of land south of County Road 39 and east of Magee Street, just outside Southampton Village.

The Tuckahoe Citizens Advisory Committee is organizing the June 1 meeting, which will be held in the library of the Tuckahoe Elementary School on Magee Street. Bonnie Geobert, the co-chairwoman of the Tuckahoe CAC, said she expects a large group of people to attend, including the developer behind the proposal, Bob Morrow, who is slated to make a presentation about his plans. Southampton Village Mayor Mark Epley, Town Board members Bridget Fleming and Jim Malone, and members of the Southampton Village Planning Commission are also expected.

Mr. Morrow needs to secure a change of zone from the Southampton Town Board in order for his project to advance. The land, located behind the Enclave Inn south of County Road 39, is zoned residential and commercial. Mr. Morrow has asked the Town Board to create a special overlay zoning district, known as a planned development district, or PDD, which would create special new rules allowing the development.

“We are against it right now because it is one of several down-zoning efforts that all seem to favor the developer over local citizenry,” Ms. Geobert said of the CAC’s position on the project. “If it’s allowed to go through, given it’s such a mammoth shopping center, it will open the door for maverick zoning in all of our hamlets.”

In a show of force against the project, a group called “Coalition to Stop the Tuckahoe Mall” has taken out advertisements in local newspapers. The advertisements can also be seen taped up in shop windows across the area. “We don’t need it! We don’t want it! We must stop it!” the advertisement reads.

Opponents of project say it will negatively impact the business district in Southampton Village. The developer of the project and his staff have maintained that Tuckahoe Main Street will improve a swath of under-utilized land in the hamlet and provide at least six affordably priced apartments—two elements touted as public benefits, a mandatory element of any PDD approval.

“According to our supervisor, she believes very firmly that the community should be behind these efforts,” Ms. Geobert said. “When the Town Board realizes it’s not behind the effort, hopefully, it will go away.”

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If you live in this district, if you have kids at Tuckahoe, you have to attend this meeting and make your voice heard. This "Tuckahoe Main Street" project should not be allowed to happen. We must convince town and village officials not to allow this change of zoning. If they want to build affordable housing, great, but not this monstrosity, especially given the availability of existing empty retail space throughout our district.
By dagdavid (646), southampton on May 26, 10 1:58 PM
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I agree it does not belong. But, we live in Southampton Town, where the powers that be rubber stamp these hideous overdevelopment projects in the name of progress.
By CommonSense (71), Southampton on May 26, 10 4:16 PM
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dagdavid is right. If it didn't also need Federal approval, I swear they would approve a nuclear power plant as long as it had an "affordable" apartment or two. They cannot see the forest for the trees.
By baywoman (165), southampton on May 26, 10 9:20 PM
Dag and Baywoman are damn right!
By elliot (254), sag harbor on Jun 2, 10 10:49 PM
It might be good for Tuckahoe as a tax base! It also will cut down on traffic in SH Village!
By LUVSH (28), Southampton on May 27, 10 12:02 PM
We cannot make every single decision based upon tax base and traffic flow. If you look only at the size of the proposed parking lot the environmental impact from water runoff alone outweighs any possible tax benefit.

You do not solve a traffic issue by simply moving the traffic elsewhere.

The impression most of us have of the Town Board and the Planning Commission is one of corrupt favor-trading. They need to prove otherwise by denying this change of zoning.
By dagdavid (646), southampton on May 27, 10 2:30 PM
There is nothing 'main street' about an an ugly strip mall with a massive parking lot. Nothing. Shelter Island is just laughing at us!
By ride the truth wave (125), southampton on May 27, 10 5:27 PM
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so sad, all this change and growth is ruining out town. it's all about one thing, $$$$$$$$$$$$$, nothing else maters.

By local (106), north sea on May 30, 10 9:28 PM
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Go Bonnie! The project offers nothing that I can see, to Tuckahoe or the larger community. You are right to oppose it, and I would be there at your meeting, except that there's another meeting at that time, 7:00 pm on June 1, at the Remsenburg Speonk Elementary School, on a topic even more urgent to those of us who live west of the canal -- the trailers for homeless sex offenders that the County has left to sit in Riverside and Westhampton for three long years. (You know there's too much bad ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1979), Quiogue on May 31, 10 11:59 AM
More garbage, more light pollution, more trucks, more traffic, more loitering,
more of everything we don't want. They can't even fill the stores on the highway.
Disgusting is my word for it.
By ride the truth wave (125), southampton on Jun 1, 10 10:53 AM
I live a few hundred yards from the proposed site and would welcome the development to the neighborhood. I think the plans could be modified to be more appropriate for the area.
By Adrian (8), Southampton on Jun 1, 10 12:06 PM
I live a few hundred yards away also and I most certainly do NOT want this monstrosity anywhere near my home or this area. Can you please explain why you welcome this site? Are you not concerned about environmental, quality of life, and traffic impact? Do you feel there should be no end to development in our neighborhoods? We have plenty of empty retail space all over the area and this is simply not needed. I can tell you this - a development like this will not increase your property value ...more
By lablover (104), Southampton on Jun 1, 10 1:49 PM
Go for it!!!!!!!!
By C888 (11), East Hampton on Jun 1, 10 6:05 PM
we need a Stop & Shop NOT a KingKullen!!
By C888 (11), East Hampton on Jun 1, 10 6:06 PM
A Wild by Nature would be nice.
By nsea93 (39), Southampton on Jun 2, 10 2:03 AM
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The above statement is seen to be contradictory. The situation is very critical and need an experience complainer to resolve it. Hat’s off. Well done, as we know that “hard work always pays off”, after a long struggle with sincere effort it’s done. This conversation is going no where. It’s lacking the place of a good leader to head the things to come out on conclusion
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By merlindayana (2), chennai on Dec 10, 10 11:34 PM
Is it just me or are there already dozens of vacant stores and entire buildings along all of 27 / 39? Stupid idea.
By littleplains (305), olde england on Jun 1, 10 11:02 PM
Yes, there are lots of vacant stores along 39, but unless traffic lights are installed at each curb cut, ingress and egress can be dangerous when there is traffic. That could be why so many are vacant.
By SusieD (115), Southampton on Jun 2, 10 8:14 AM
As a resident of Tuckahoe -- This is a great solution for Southampton. Every way you look at it -- there isn't a negative point to be had.
By rms (1), Southampton on Jun 2, 10 1:18 PM
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Worst idea ever, it will be an abandoned strip mall within 10 years. That or it will be Key Food in Hampton Bays 2.0. Better yet, does anyone remember when the King Kullen in that Riverhead strip mall looked like a nice place to shop? Yeah, me neither.

You MAYBE could get away with a JC Penny or a Bloomingdales in that location but I doubt there is any more need for a supermarket in the SH Village area. With that being said, a superstore kind of takes away from the quaintness that so many ...more
By cochise316 (58), southampton on Jun 2, 10 2:07 PM
We have the worst ever already with Waldbaum's. Any other store would be an improvement.
By SusieD (115), Southampton on Jun 2, 10 5:31 PM
You obviously never went to Key Food...
By cochise316 (58), southampton on Jun 2, 10 6:46 PM
Local (north sea) said it all:

It's about the $$$$$$$

You and I and all of us have absolutely NOTHING to say about it or influence it's rejection.

The town WILL approve it.

Money talks. Period.

Welcome to Hell.
By elliot (254), sag harbor on Jun 2, 10 10:34 PM
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By elliot (254), sag harbor on Jun 2, 10 10:47 PM
We all need to look at this objectively .If we as a community are opposed to this it must be for all the right reasons. Just because you don't want it in "my backyard" is not good enough. It's inevitable it will be developed into something. Lets work with the developer and "help'' guide them into a direction that helps the community. First, vacant storefronts are a result of greedy landlords.The rents are outrageous for a renter where a year round community cannot support. Ask anyone who is looking ...more
By gallerygirl (29), southampton on Jun 3, 10 9:47 PM
"There is no need for a Pizzeria,Chinese Takeout,Latino Cabana, or another liquor store within a ten mile radius."

I fully agree.

Unfortunately, the only "inevitable" thing is the exact type of businesses that you mentioned---sad to say.
By elliot (254), sag harbor on Jun 4, 10 10:10 AM
Not only are there many properties unoccupied along 39 but SH village has several store fronts and restaurants for rent as well. Let's stick together and support local business, and not create mediocre middle America shopping malls. The reason tourists love our community is not only for our pristine beaches but for our "home town" charm as well.
By I <3 SH (1), southampton on Jun 9, 10 5:44 PM
The initiative taken for the concern is very serious and need an attention of every one. This is the concern which exists in the society and needs to be eliminated from the society as soon as possible.
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By merlindayana (2), chennai on Dec 10, 10 11:36 PM