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Mar 23, 2011 11:20 AMPublication: The Southampton Press

Southampton Town Zoning Board Again Delays Decision On 7-Eleven

Mar 23, 2011 11:20 AM

A highly anticipated decision on whether to grant a variance that could allow a 7-Eleven convenience store to open on County Road 39 in Tuckahoe was postponed by the Southampton Town Zoning Board of Appeals Thursday night—the third adjournment since the application originally came up for a vote in February.

Board members agreed to push the decision to Thursday, April 7, when they are next scheduled to meet.

Board Vice Chairman Adam Grossman said that Wayne Bruyn, the attorney representing the applicant, Leland Lane LLC of Oyster Bay, requested that a vote not be cast until all seven board members could be present. Kandice Cowell, the board’s secretary, said that her office received a letter on Wednesday from Mr. Bruyn stating that since not all members would be present, he was requesting another adjournment.

Mr. Bruyn did not immediately return a call for comment.

Board Chairman Herbert Phillips said on Friday he did not have time to discuss the matter, but did say, “They want to make sure it’s a full board so they have as many votes as they can get.”

Board member Denise Burke O’Brien was absent on Thursday. Brian Desesa was absent from the March 3 meeting, and both Mr. Phillips and member Ann Nowak were absent from the February 17 meeting.

Leland Lane LLC is seeking to operate a 7-Eleven in a mostly vacant strip mall that falls within the town’s highway business zoning district on County Road 39. The developer has asked for relief from a section of the town’s zoning code that prohibits convenience stores from operating in that district. The site is just west of a Hess gas station and across the highway from the South Fork Deli and Shinnecock Hardware Store.

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Were they intentionally absent to avoid having to take a vote? This was turned down by the zoning board and it was the right decision. Another 7/11 there is unnecessary (there is a family owned deli right across the street) and would cause undo traffic congestion. We need a moratorium on any new commercial development on CR39.
By dagdavid (646), southampton on Mar 18, 11 3:02 PM
I believe, originally that there was going to be a Outback Steakhouse at this site but that got voted down. A 7-11 would be many accidents just waiting to happen. Revisit the Outback idea if you ask me.
By itsamazing (224), Southampton on Mar 18, 11 7:13 PM
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Outback turned tail when they found out that the most anti-business member of the U.S. Senate was running for President. When Obama actually got elected, that cemented the fact that they would not continue expansion of the chain. I do feel sorry for the gentleman who invested $6M in the property, but he should have seen the writing on the wall...I did. I wouldn't have built a tool shed with Barack on his way to the White House!
By Zorro (66), Southampton on Mar 18, 11 7:38 PM
what an ignorant comment.
By C Law (354), Water Mill on Mar 18, 11 8:38 PM
Oh really? And I suppose the 3M CEO is ignorant as well? Read recent CNN quotes below:

by Ken Sweet, contributing writer February 28, 2011: 1:41 PM ET

NEW YORK (CNN Money) -- The head of industrial conglomerate 3M (MMM, Fortune 500) blasted the president as being "anti-business," claiming Obama has not done anything to improve the White House's relationship with Corporate America.

3M CEO George Buckley called Obama's policies "Robin Hood-esque" and told the Financial Times ...more
By Zorro (66), Southampton on Mar 18, 11 10:26 PM
Just when you think the comments from the right cannot get more desperate, juvenile, or moronic . . .
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Mar 19, 11 3:37 PM
You can ignore it if you choose to but those empty stores on CR 39 are a direct result of the "uncertainty" caused by this Marxist President of ours. He hates his own country (the apology tour of '09). Every company is scared out of their mind when it comes to considering signing a lease. This time the fear is caused directly by Washington. All politics is local.
By Zorro (66), Southampton on Mar 20, 11 9:09 PM
More name-calling from a coddled liberal living in perpetual childhood.
By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Mar 21, 11 4:15 PM
More name calling from a miserable wing nut living in perpetual lunacy
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Mar 21, 11 5:41 PM
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There is a difference between being "anti-business", and "anti-avarice"...
Mar 21, 11 11:37 PM appended by Mr. Z
This is the same George Buckley, who was "compensated" 12 million dollars, while "layoffs, and overtime cuts" were necessary? Maybe shave 6 millon of your own pay off, and lay off a few less workers? Nah, that wouldn't be "proper" in the "Corporate World". SHEESH!
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Mar 21, 11 11:37 PM
And, by the way, this is the same guy whose "compensation" INCREASED from 12.2 million in 2008, to 13.9 million, in 2009, during a recession...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Mar 22, 11 12:00 AM
this well help as the town clearly needs a another hiring hall. now a second guy will have to get a job waving a flag and holding a sign
By reality 101 (137), East Hampton on Mar 18, 11 7:49 PM
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Another developer ASSumes that by pleading finfncial hardship he can get the zoning changed for his project. Getting in and out of most businesses on the highway is life threatening as it is. Imagine the cluster when contractors and landscapers are using the new 7-11 to pick up their "undocumented workers". Just vote no on this and be done with it!
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Mar 19, 11 8:15 AM
Having a 7/11 would make an already DANGEROUS STRETCH OF HIGHWAY ridiculously dangerous.I can't believe this usage was ever even considered.Any other bussiness would have less traffic going and out and be better.
By WHALE56 (13), Southampton on Mar 19, 11 11:10 AM
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Have I missed something? Do the day laborers gather at the 7-11 because there is a bus stop there or because there is a convenience store there?
By V.Tomanoku (790), southampton on Mar 19, 11 1:12 PM
They gather there because the UTI (up the Island) contractors stop there for one stop shopping in the morning, coffee, lunch and a couple of illegals. Reverse it on the way back UTI, drop the illegals off, pick up a 6 an back to Mastic.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Mar 19, 11 5:32 PM
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Listen if the town has a sanctuary policy that is where the problem emanates. Vote them out ! The responsibility is with law enforcement. Stop with the racial profiling B.S. We know were they are every morning and they are loitering. Grounds to ask them for Identification. So stop blaming the business man who stops for coffee and picks up 2 guys who want to work for the day. Its not his responsibility to be an ice agent. sure their cheap and they work harder than any American laborer that I have ...more
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Mar 19, 11 7:44 PM
The employers are just as guilty of creating this illegal immigration problem as anyone else.

It's more efficient to go after the employers first. Many illegals will self deport once the contractors realize paying $5 more an hour will being plenty of legal workers and beats the hell out of a jail cell.

By the way, it IS the responsibility of employers to only employee legal residents, by law.
By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Mar 21, 11 4:14 PM
B.S. Its not the contractors job to ascertain whether a person is a citizen its the governments job and they are clearly asleep at the wheel
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Mar 21, 11 9:18 PM
If you don't check your "employees" legal status, you are just as guilty, as they are.

It is EVERYONE'S responsibility, employer AND government. As long as "the buck is passed", the problem will persist.

And joe, I'll take you out on a trash route sometime. I guarantee you will find a bonafide American, who labors rather hard.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Mar 21, 11 11:42 PM
A family restaraunt even a chain like Outback or Applebees would better serve the community. All we have are trendy restaraunts. People in Hampton Bays were upset about Friendlys which now is the neighborhood gathering spot. There is less moving traffic in these establishments as they stay awhile. It would also create more jobs for the kids in the area. We already have a 7-11 and with its transient traffick, 39 is going to become more of a mess. The application should be denied.
By North Sea Citizen (568), North Sea on Mar 20, 11 9:57 AM
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A 7-eleven on a busy stretch like route 39 should only be allowed at a place controlled by a traffic light where traffic turning in and out could be controlled. Cars coming from and going to the west bound lanes of 39 would be a nightmare. It is already hard enough to get in and out of the Hess station there.. a 7-eleven would have way more traffic flow. (I'm not advocating for traffic lights) :)
By deelove (152), Bridgehampton on Mar 20, 11 2:40 PM
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Ditto -- I just drove back from a day up-Island, and looked at the mostly vacant building and Hess location. This area will need 1-3 traffic lights soon, no matter who fills the empty spaces (including others on this stretch of 39). Ditto for other areas in Water Mill and Bridgehampton.

Just wait for the summer traffic increasing with the economy apparently on the rebound!
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Mar 20, 11 10:12 PM
I agree that location is due a stop light in both directions. Its the probably one of the higher speed points between the College and Magee Street lights. So a traffic calming light there might not be out of consideration. According to a study the motorist access to businesses along 39 is one source of vacancies there. The other is permitting process and high rents. So the light would be helpful to all.
By V.Tomanoku (790), southampton on Mar 21, 11 12:23 PM
All of this should be figured out before they allow a developer to build something. I'ts a shame that a brand new building remains empty (except for Sleepy's, which there is one unnecessarily located in every Village like people can't drive one or two Villages to buy a bed. How often are you buying a bed anyway?) because the town won't approve the type of business it was built for. If a building like that is built, what type of business does the town expect to go in it? It's perfect for a small ...more
By deelove (152), Bridgehampton on Mar 20, 11 2:52 PM
IHOP or Applebees? Outback or Carrabbas would fill the parking lot. These two chains open their doors at 4 pm, people don't start coming in until 5pm, therefore the traffic impact would be minimal.
By Zorro (66), Southampton on Mar 20, 11 9:20 PM
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I hop or cracker barrel would be excellent
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Mar 20, 11 11:22 PM
Obviously we don't need another 7-11
By someguy (6), southampton on Mar 21, 11 1:46 PM
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I can't believe this is even being entertained. There are zoning laws for a reason. You don't put high volume retail business on a busy highway. It's not even like the business you are bringing in is unique or enhances the town. You have a deli in place across the street and Hess has coffee and crap as well. I would like to hear from the people of Tuckahoe, would they like a 7-11 there? Can you imagine every landlord claiming a hardship because they can't rent their places and want their zoning ...more
By Mets fan (1501), Southampton on Mar 21, 11 8:09 PM
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I AGREE W Mets Fan !! (again)
7-11 attracts a crowd that no one needs. ther is no job there that benefits a community. they sell more of the same junk u can get everywhere. am i wrong? is there anything anyone really "needs" at a free king siete-once ?? no way. locals can go to the reservation for cheaper cigs, better deli is across the street, commuters have 85 miles of options.

who really cares about the tears of some rich boo hoo's from 50 miles to the west who is cryin poverty?? ...more
By david h (405), southampton on Mar 23, 11 3:09 PM
bla bla bla bla bla
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Mar 21, 11 9:19 PM
That's a Bachmann quote, right?

Joe, it's clear that you are a far-right wingnut, but a Bachmann supporter? Come on, even you cannot be that crazy. But, hey, I've gotta give you credit for actually having the b-alls to admit it.

Can't wait for that first Republican primary debate between Bachman, Palin, Trump and Gingrich! You must secretly be an Obama supporter.
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Mar 30, 11 4:25 PM
That's all you got
By Mets fan (1501), Southampton on Mar 22, 11 10:03 AM
A traffic-intensive change of zoning here is not warranted here IMO.

And just to the east, the Town Board today will be considering the Tuckahoe PDD.

By PBR (4956), Southampton on Mar 22, 11 3:06 PM