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Apr 4, 2010 12:28 PMPublication: The East Hampton Press

County Road 39 to see minor widening project in the fall

Apr 4, 2010 12:28 PM

The stretch of County Road 39/39A between North Sea Road and Montauk Highway in Southampton is set to be widened and to undergo other construction this fall, according to the Suffolk County Department of Public Works.

The $3.5 million project will involve roadway resurfacing and the addition of a second eastbound lane to accommodate motorists. It also includes resurfacing and drainage improvements to the 1.5-mile span of heavily trafficked roadway.

The additional lane will serve as a continuous turn lane, becoming a dedicated center left-turn lane at major intersections.

Federal funding is expected to cover 80 percent of the project’s cost, with the county paying the remaining 20 percent.

A delay in the expected receipt of federal funds, distributed through the New York Department of Transportation, postponed the project’s projected start date from this spring to October.

“With the NYDOT having a $20 billion deficit ... we need the cash to pay for it,” said Bill Hillman, chief engineer for the county’s Department of Public Works. Mr. Hillman added that new asphalt will be in place sooner, if possible, but not between Memorial Day and Labor Day, when local roads become flooded with vehicles. “We’re not going to do work in the summer in the Hamptons,” he noted.

The project is expected to take four to five months, and is expected to be finished by Memorial Day 2011, taking into account a winter hiatus.

Because of the wide shoulders in some areas, only resurfacing and “restriping” will be needed on portions of the stretch, not additional pavement.

“Ultimately, the goal is to have a five-lane section, but this is better than nothing,” Mr. Hillman said, adding that because of the private property adjacent to the roadway, there is insufficient room for such expansion. The project will take place within the county’s current right-of-way, so the county does not need to acquire additional property.

Last July, during the road’s peak travel time, 34,300 vehicles rumbled over its surface. On average, 27,900 motorists traverse the road each month throughout the year, according to county statistics.

Colleen Reynolds

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not fair. a bike lane is needed
By kuali (32), southampton on Mar 30, 10 4:28 PM
Let's be realistic CR39 is no place for a bike lane. There is a bike lane in the works for Montauk Hwy. between the Village of Southampton east to the Village of East Hampton.
Bicycling on CR39 is not only dangerous due to the vehicles, the air quality is also questionable on such a busy road.
By ICE (1214), Southhampton on Mar 30, 10 5:50 PM
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A bike lane on 39....what a nusance that would be....Montauk hwy not good enough for the road hogging,car oblivious cyclist many who have no regard for traffic and most possess a sense of entitlement.
By lursagirl (245), southampton on Apr 3, 10 10:13 PM
By lursagirl (245), southampton on Apr 3, 10 10:14 PM
What do you do for fun ,exercise and enjoyment?
By Mets fan (1501), Southampton on Apr 5, 10 8:42 PM
The proposed project runs from North Sea Road to Montauk Highway (at the "Diner/Glennon Motors corner" I assume). There is PLENTY of width for a bike lane here IMO, or at least a combined bike lane and widened shoulder. No problem.

ICE's comment about CR39 in general appears wise -- west of North Sea Road CR39 has already been widened, and is maxed out -- no room at all for bikes. Plus, bikers can (and would likely more enjoy) using the old Montauk Highway (27A) from Hampton Bays to Southampton ...more
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Mar 30, 10 6:42 PM
Good suggestion..Boy, Glennon Buick Cadillac...Brought back a lot of memories. I miss Peter Glennon and the gang...Hull Chevrolet in SHV too.
By nellie (451), sag harbor on Mar 30, 10 9:56 PM
and Mayo Motors. And Don Macay, And Bohacks. And Herberts. And Catena's seafood. And The Anchorage...

Southampton in general, that's what I miss. In the days before we needed a 5 lane highway.
By Draggerman (955), Southampton on Mar 30, 10 10:49 PM
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Or Healey's drive in (well before McD's)..I used to love that Bohack's potato salad with my sandwich after clamming all day on dune road with my dad. That was when we thought it was a park, not a place to land your helicopter. Those were the days.
By nellie (451), sag harbor on Mar 30, 10 11:01 PM
How about Ernie's gas station across the street from Judge Kendrick's house with Ernie's dad Charlie and Merrill? Town Hall was where Saks Fifth is now. Back then there were no traffic lights east of SHV and only two in the village when Todd was running the Anchorage, where we went for pitchers of beer on a Saturday night after going to movies where Morley Quatroche was the manager. Tucker Mill hadn't burned down yet and the Scotch Mist Inn was going full time as was Dick Ridgeley's in Water Mill. ...more
By Scratch (26), Sag Harbor on Mar 31, 10 4:43 AM
It was a different world for sure. I will never forget that which made us what we are. Never.
By nellie (451), sag harbor on Apr 1, 10 12:15 AM
That stretch of roadway is CR39A not CR39
By 75Shovel (15), Southampton on Mar 31, 10 7:28 AM
"if possible, but not between Labor Day and Memorial Day, when local roads become flooded with vehicles" Shouldn't this be the other way around? Memorial Day comes first.
By hbaysboomer (15), Hampton Bays on Mar 31, 10 8:52 AM
You're right. Thanks for pointing it out. It has been corrected.
By BOReilly (135), 27east Web Editor on Mar 31, 10 9:20 AM
and the bottleneck will now happen at the intersection of County Road 39 and Montauk Highway instead of by 7-11........
By DiDi (16), Southampton on Mar 31, 10 9:11 AM
and then can we raise the speed limit another 10 mph? please?
By sirpoochala (78), Hampton Bays on Apr 1, 10 4:14 PM
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NO, we can't. When it was 45, people usually did 55 or 60.

Now that it's 35, they usually only do 45, or 50.

Personallly, I set my cruise control to 40, and roll through.

Traffic lights are designed to stagger traffic, so left turns CAN be made. When you exceed the limit, you close the gaps, and leave people waiting. Then, they get frustrated, take chances, and accidents happen.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Apr 2, 10 10:08 AM
You forgot Three Finger Joe's and the downstairs bar at the Polish Hall, Brownie's Park Hotel, Clyde and Stan's, the real Shippy's, the old Bowden Square, the Terry Tavern, and the bar on No. Main St. opposite the entrance to the nursing home w/ the pickled eggs and pigs knuckles on the shelf behind the bar (That was always the last stop). There was also a bar across the street favored by the Hillcrest folks.
Pass the Three Feathers.
By hamptonyte (14), Southampton on Apr 1, 10 9:23 PM
Messchuitt Beach, the playground, and the ice cream stand.
When 39 was still cement, two lanes, and lunch or dinner was at LaPizzaiola.
I remember Mom used to use Sundown suntan lotion, and the bottle looked like the sign on Sundowns next door!
Caldor, and shopping for plants, trees, and potting soil in the back when they had a nursery. Going to Stanley's (can't remember his last name, green house by Whspering Fields Ct.) on Head of Pond to get cow manure for the garden. Running around ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Apr 2, 10 10:21 AM
Editor, is there a pattern here?

Really nice posts IMO about the good old days.

New forum topic -- "The Way It Was" or some title like that?

"Try to Remember . . . " ?
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Apr 2, 10 5:14 PM
I created a topic like that yesterday, at nellie's suggestion: http://www.27east.com/forum/messages.cfm?threadid=B9AADC6C-E081-4CAC-928C6289DCE55242
By BOReilly (135), 27east Web Editor on Apr 2, 10 5:34 PM
Thanks Brendan,

The link above does not go through. Does this link work OK?


If not delete this post please.
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Apr 2, 10 6:14 PM
I guess there are no live URL links here, so Brendan's link was OK.
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Apr 2, 10 6:20 PM
I remember Ernie's when it was on the corner of Windmill lane and Nugent St before he moved to Hampton Road. He always filled his station with a cast of wonderful local characters and lord knows he kept all our cars going. I loved stopping by there.
By goldenrod (505), southampton on Apr 3, 10 1:04 AM
If they build small parking lots in Watermill and Bridgehampton and eliminate on-street parking during certain times and on specific sides, they could accommodate 3 lanes on 27 without construction and using the current width. On certain stretches, besides in the villages themselves, there is plenty of room for widening. Parking lots on both sides will also eliminate the need for pedestrians to cross the street, and not to mention waiting for someone to parallel park, both of which worsen traffic. ...more
By deelove (152), Bridgehampton on Apr 4, 10 11:41 AM
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The only problem I foresee is the bridge between Old Mill, and Mecox.

Even with the new reinforcements, it may not be wide enough for 4 lanes, but I may be wrong.
Apr 5, 10 9:59 PM appended by Mr. Z
And, two lanes either direction to the Diner actually DOUBLES the volume of traffic through that stretch of highway, and will actually lessen the congestion further west. Steadily, season to season, we could slowly work our way past Duck Walk, and through Water Mill. Remember, these projects cost ALOT of money...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Apr 5, 10 9:59 PM
The pictures show Buzz Chew and the map is showing Shrubland Road...
By homebird (8), Montauk on Apr 6, 10 10:44 AM