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Dec 29, 2013 4:21 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Troopers Arrest Four In Hampton Bays Sobriety Checkpoint Early Sunday Morning

Dec 30, 2013 7:04 AM

A sobriety checkpoint east of exit 65 in Hampton Bays on Sunrise Highway resulted in four arrests between Saturday night and Sunday morning, according to a press release issued by New York State Troopers and the Suffolk County Sheriffs Department on Sunday afternoon.

Between the hours of 11 p.m. Saturday and 4 a.m. Sunday, police stopped approximately 200 cars and arrested three people for driving while under the influence of drugs or alcohol and one person for unlawful possession of marijuana.

Scott Tucker, 24, of Palm Beach, Florida, and Jorge Morocho, 24, of Southampton, were arrested for driving while intoxicated, a misdemeanor. Both men were held overnight for morning arraignment at the Southampton Town Justice Court.

Sarah Hynes, 28, of Wading River, was arrested and charged with driving while impaired by drugs, also a misdemeanor. She was released on an appearance ticket.

At the same time, a 25-year-old Southampton man was charged with unlawful possession of marijuana, a violation. He was also released on an appearance ticket.

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According to PBR's theories, this is a highly unsuccessful effort by the Police, and we really should wonder who is paying for the dogs and the meals and the coffee etc. etc. being used for all of the manhours in this bogus operation!

Isn't ANYONE monitoring the success rate of these "stings"?

/eyeroll. Glad the cops busted some people and are out there keeping everyone else honest.

Seems like icecreamman above has some issues with the police.
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Dec 30, 13 1:22 PM
Your fantasy land . . .

Mirror.
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Dec 30, 13 2:11 PM
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So basically 196 people had their valuable time unnecessarily wasted and were unfairly targeted and harassed.
By ridiculous (214), hampton bays on Dec 30, 13 5:48 PM
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"unfairly targeted and harassed."

Have you ever been through a sobriety checkpoint? If you have you'd realize there is no harassment (to the sober) involved and it's not being unfairly "targeted" either. Driving is a privilege, now let's all move along
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Dec 30, 13 6:21 PM
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Not so Nature. Twice I have been through these checkpoints and both times I had to wait in excess of 30 minutes before I got through. Both times I was stone sober, as usual. The second time the only thing that sped it up was that I mentioned I knew one of the troopers.
By dnice (2346), Hampton Bays on Dec 30, 13 9:02 PM
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So being delayed - harassment? Interesting
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Dec 30, 13 9:37 PM
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Nature, have you ever been delayed for 30 minutes for a sobriety check point like this? Just curious what your reaction would be . . .

You would calmly say "it's cool, because driving is a privilege . . . " or words to that effect? Especially between 11 PM on a Saturday night and 4 AM?

Checkpoints like this pass Constitutional muster on the Fourth Amendment search and seizure issues (which do apply even to "privilege" activities) only because the intrusion (the "stop") is minimal, ...more
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Dec 30, 13 9:53 PM
"For the police to detain a sober motorist for 30 minutes, waiting in line, does not fit the bill IMO."

It's not detainment. It's a delay due to police work. When there is a manhunt being conducted police set-up roadblocks. Do you consider those "detainments"?
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Dec 31, 13 9:38 AM
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Tell that to the person who is forced by the police to sit in his or her car for 30 minutes. Yes, of course the person is being detained, against their will, by police action. The reason for the detainment is another matter.

In this case, we are talking only about a simple DWI check point. Only.
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Dec 31, 13 9:50 AM
Sounds like it's time to fight for your right PBR
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Dec 31, 13 10:14 AM
It's your right too . . .

The right to be free of "unreasonable searches and seizures" is one of the most cherished of our Constitutional rights. Yet we often ignore the minor ways in which these rights are being eroded . . .

Every large river canyon started with a few little drops of water . . . millions of years ago . . .

[see discussion of Michigan v. Sitz below]
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Dec 31, 13 12:37 PM
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Yes Nature, I think it is. You can make the argument that we can stop anyone for anything, anytime because hey, they may be committing a crime.
By dnice (2346), Hampton Bays on Dec 31, 13 1:06 PM
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How do you feel about stopping citizens to show identification to help us stay safe? After all randomly checking 200 id's will most likely get you 4 warrants or suspended licenses. And if you have to wait 30 minutes for the opportunity to do so its no big deal right Nature? They could set up in front of K Mart or Walmart or maybe Town Hall.
Your obviously somewhat intellegent. Yet you tend to let your ridiculous "nature" handicap intelligent rationalization.
By double-D (96), southampton on Jan 2, 14 1:53 PM
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A young woman was hit and killed in Hampton Bays on Montauk Highway 1/5/14 by a drunk driver. Ask her family about checkpoints.
By Terbear (77), Southampton on Jan 5, 14 10:38 AM
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My deepest sympathy to the family. Perhaps some day our judicial system will make penalties severe enough to curb drunk driving.
DUI checkpoints should be at the exit of bars.
By double-D (96), southampton on Jan 5, 14 11:08 AM
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These check points are to much like Nazi Germany get real
By 27dan (2854), Southampton on Dec 30, 13 7:00 PM
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Godwin's law strikes again. You lose.
By lucky and aware (44), Speonk on Dec 31, 13 1:51 AM
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So let's see now. People complain about the operations to see if people are selling alcohol to minors. People complain about sobriety checkpoints . When there's an accident caused by DWI, people complain because the police should be doing more to get them off the road. Unfortunately, there is no perfect system to prevent people from driving drunk.

So if you all have any great ideas as to what law enforcement should be doing to prevent DWI's (without inconveniencing anyone, of course, ...more
By itsamazing (224), Southampton on Dec 30, 13 10:47 PM
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It only takes one drunk to change a families world by crossing the line and colliding with another vehicle. Its encouraging that so few were caught which means people arent taking chances. I bet they would catch more if they did it on 27 in Bridge Sagaponack areas or Long Beach Road in Noyac, or Noyac Road in North Sea. They should just keep it up in the area as the press of it will be a big enough deterrant.
By North Sea Citizen (568), North Sea on Dec 31, 13 7:13 AM
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Why don't all the restaurants and bars that are barely surviving just close down for the holidays, that way no one will get hurt.
By Infoseeker (280), Hampton Bays on Dec 31, 13 1:48 PM
How about we create reasonable penalties?

These days if you do make a mistake and get arrested you will definitely lose your savings, and quite possibly your house if you have a mortgage and you suffer a job loss because of it.

It's not worth it, and like I said people make mistakes. Draconian penalties and sanguine prosecutors ruin lives.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Dec 31, 13 2:34 PM
"Draconian penalties and sanguine prosecutors ruin lives."

So do drunk drivers. Our penatlies are far from "draconian" when compared to other countries in the world
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Dec 31, 13 3:13 PM
It means severe, or in the worst case unjust. Seneca once wisely stated "It is not goodness to be better than the worst."

Not everyone who is arrested maims or kills anyone. In actuality not even 10% of all accidents involve being arrested for alcohol. It is it fair to destroy a person's life who harmed no one? But like I said, it's not worth it. "Know when to say when."
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Dec 31, 13 6:10 PM
Mr Z, As you more than anyone knows, you are more likely to be hit by lighting then killed by a drunk driver. so why do we make such a big deal of this, could it be because you cant ticket someone for being out in the rain

( YET, give this de Blasio guy some time )
By 27dan (2854), Southampton on Jan 2, 14 10:06 PM
Legalize drugs, allow dwi's, kill babies. Its amazing the same people that want to legalize everything also wonder why our society is going down the crapper.
By chief1 (2800), southampton on Jan 3, 14 5:01 PM
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Our society is going down the crapper for a lot of reasons, including, but not limited to: Income inequality, banksters and fraudsters getting away with murder, a bought and paid for Congress, a dysfunctional Capitol, poor education, crumbling infrastructure, and extremist fools whose assumptions attempt to put words in other's mouths...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jan 4, 14 8:36 AM
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My opinion of a "reasonable" time limit on the search and seizure is six minutes and twelve seconds. Anyone else?
Dec 31, 13 2:51 PM appended by VOS
Except if I am on my way to work, a movie or a doctor's appointment.
By VOS (1241), WHB on Dec 31, 13 2:51 PM
Thank you.

Happy New Year.
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Dec 31, 13 3:30 PM
I am shocked and delighted by the extremely low percentage of dwi dui at the witching hour.
Keep up the good work east end residents.

These statistics should be a clue to the law to stop wasting money and violating peoples rights in these stop all road blocks.
By llimretaw (118), watermill on Dec 31, 13 7:09 PM
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The police are already on the payroll, how can a roadblock cost taxpayers anything financially?!
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jan 1, 14 8:47 AM
This comment has been removed because it is a duplicate, off-topic or contains inappropriate content.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jan 1, 14 8:47 AM
Think, bigfresh, think.

You may be able to answer your own question.
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Jan 1, 14 9:37 AM
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RADIO LEGEND BOB GRANT DEAD...

Pretty ironic that the one place people should be free to say what they think, talk radio, is where Bob Grant was fired more than once for doing just that! Rest in Peace, good man, Jesus may not have returned to the Earth when you were alive, but you ARE seeing Him now!
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Jan 2, 14 9:43 PM
Can't help but laugh, If Phil ever would have called in to the Bob Grant show it would have took about 15 seconds before Mr Grant would have said,

GET OFF MY PHONE !
By 27dan (2854), Southampton on Jan 2, 14 10:01 PM
Not what happened but, nice try,and thanks for playing,

Anyone interested can look up what really happened on goggle if they look a bit
By 27dan (2854), Southampton on Jan 3, 14 2:54 PM
Anyway tomorrow I will take 27 east to 95 South for 7 blissful weeks in paradise...I will not let the white filth and salt stop me as they have beautiful touch less car washes south of the Mason Dixon Line... You can even stay in the car while its being washed (Once you get out of the Nanny States you realize how controlling they are of every little aspect of your life)

After washing off the "filth" I will be free of the safety Nazis and once again be able to drive at more natural speeds... ...more
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Jan 3, 14 8:54 PM
to Captn America:

Now, now, Captn, you've gone and said gratuitously mean things about me (again) just because you're inept at dialectic. Heck, I haven't even posted in this thread.

Just to set the record straight, however, I have made the point previously that failing to attribute quoted material is discourteous to its creator, at the least, and frequently indicates (this is the part that applies to you, Captn) an intent to avoid disclosing that the sources for one's "argument" ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Jan 3, 14 9:33 PM
Since I will be on the road for a few days I leave you with this...

Feds list over 135 new regulations in first few days of 2014

Most of the new regulations that combat the false narrative of "Global Warming" were never about halting the warming since no warming never existed. This is proof that carbon credits and emission restrictions only exist to take money from countries who have a viable economy and transfer it to countries who do not.

This administration does not ...more
Jan 4, 14 1:14 AM appended by joe hampton
Should have read ....Evidently the Obamacare debacle
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Jan 4, 14 1:14 AM
Ocean pH 8.14 and dropping.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jan 4, 14 8:33 AM
There have been times in the earths history where there were no polar ice caps. and they were some of the most biologically diverse time the plant has every seen. So what difference does the PH make as all that fresh water has been in the pool before.

The sky is on fire, The sky is on fire, Please
By 27dan (2854), Southampton on Jan 4, 14 6:39 PM
The difference is phytoplankton is the foundation of the food chain. Once the pH drops sufficiently, they will die out. When the oceans go anoxic and die, we die. Think of the ocean as a bottle of seltzer water. Carbonic acid carves caves and the worst mass extinction in the four billion year history of this planet occurred while there were no polar ice caps, and the ocean was full on anoxic.

Maybe I'll just inscribe "I told you so" on my tombstone.

In case you were wondering ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jan 5, 14 1:21 AM
..MSNBC Faces Credibility Issues After Anti-White Remarks

Crying her way through yet another apology by an MSNBC host, Melissa Harris-Perry backpedaled, saying her previous week’s show was not intended to mock the adopted African-American grandchild of Mitt Romney.

She is more concerned about damaging her career (such as it is) than damaging the child. She, like everyone that works at MSNBC would desperately like to move up to a news outlet that matters. The tears were ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Jan 4, 14 7:16 PM
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I will not condone anyone, Erik Rush and Michael Scheuer included calling for a potus ass.

It is you the defended Martin Bashir for the first 3 days

And It is you in these rooms that has refused to scold racists and misogynists

Jeremiah Wright
Ed Schultz
Alec the hack Baldwin
Martin Bashir
Anthony "Carlos Danger" Weiner
Elliott Spitzer
Keith Oberbum
Soledad O' brian
Joe mumbles Bidden
and the latest raciest Melissa Harris Perry

Now ...more
Jan 5, 14 1:33 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
Now is your chance
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Jan 5, 14 1:33 PM
to Captn America:

Erik Rush is a bombastic blowhard without a shred of integrity and with all the intelligence and credibility of his Left-Wing doppelganger, the Rev. Al Sharpton. Not one of the ambiguous accusations of misfeasance in the quote of him that you posted has any substance. You discredit yourself even further by citing him.
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Jan 5, 14 2:05 PM
to Captn America & Undocumented Democrat

hhs is the King of being bombastic and I for one found your comments to be spot on and enlightening,

Great job!
By They call me (2826), southampton on Jan 5, 14 2:26 PM
Yet another thread has jumped the rails.
By dnice (2346), Hampton Bays on Jan 5, 14 9:46 PM
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PETER HAMBY, CNN: "I talked to a former Obama White House person, just before Christmas, when Obama was sort of adrift, figuring out what to do, his poll numbers were pretty low. And he said, 'Look, the president needs to find an issue to campaign on. This is what he's good at. He's really good at campaigning. Maybe not governing,' according to this Democrat." Thats comforting

By They call me (2826), southampton on Jan 6, 14 3:58 PM
you three fight like 3rd graders
By Erin 27 E (1281), southampton on Jan 6, 14 7:18 PM
but it is amusing to see temper tantrum phil put in his place
By Erin 27 E (1281), southampton on Jan 6, 14 7:19 PM
Indeed
By They call me (2826), southampton on Jan 8, 14 1:30 AM
Eery for sure.
By dnice (2346), Hampton Bays on Jan 8, 14 7:11 AM
Now the truth outrages you?! Classic liberal , "I am a victim" mentality!
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jan 9, 14 7:28 AM

Pinprick: Six Reasons Why Civil Fines Don't Deter Corporate Wrongdoers

Posted by David Callahan on January 9, 2014
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JP Morgan Chase has now been hit with a total of $20 billion in fines and restitution for a variety of misdeeds over the past decade -- a record total by far for any business. Is the bank reeling in shame and pain? Has it gotten rid of the CEO who incurred all those penalties? Has its stock sunk to historic new lows?

No, no, and no.

The ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jan 10, 14 2:25 AM
Fox News, has declared victory over his left-wing competitors, CNN and MSNBC. In a lengthy interview with The Hollywood Reporter, Ailes points out correctly that MSNBC and CNN have given up on and are moving away from the news business: "That means Fox has won the cable news wars." Thanks to racists and bigots like Melisa Harris Perry, Soledad O' brian, Alec the hack Baldwin and Martin Bashir There ratings have dropped and they have both moved away from a news format to what ever it is they call ...more
By 27dan (2854), Southampton on Jan 9, 14 12:53 PM
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to 27dan:

Fox news has always been an "infotainment" channel. The Right-Wing dancing bears that it fronts as "news" presenters are a lot more diverting than their counterparts on other channels who strive for objectivity.

While the old adage, "Truth is stranger than fiction", may be apt, it sure isn't more entertaining and doesn't get high Nielsen ratings, a fact that Fox understood ab initio. If Fox replaced its agents provocateurs with straight journalists, its numbers would ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Jan 9, 14 2:22 PM
Fox news is fair and balanced just watch on any givin night they always have opposing view points.
MSNBC - All there shows feature two guests with the same progressive talking points , But thanks for playing, Bottom Line Fox's Ratings speak for themselves now back in your hat


AND THE PEOPLE CAN SEE THAT FOR THEMSELVES !
By They call me (2826), southampton on Jan 9, 14 6:18 PM
Like this post is fair and balanced, We have the Pius Pompous Corrupt HHS and the Progressive Academic Union loving HHS ,

Oh wait same thing sorry
By 27dan (2854), Southampton on Jan 10, 14 1:42 PM
Ever notice how poisonous these threads become once Phil starts posting in them?
By dnice (2346), Hampton Bays on Jan 9, 14 7:08 PM
You're a legend in your own mind Phil.
By dnice (2346), Hampton Bays on Jan 9, 14 9:25 PM
As dnice said on Sunday evening:

"Yet another thread has jumped the rails."


What, "if you can't ignore 'em join 'em?"

It takes two to tango. Just sayin' -- ya can't have it both ways . . .
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Jan 9, 14 8:51 PM
ROAD TO WHITE HOUSE CLOSED!

Where there is Smoke there is fire.
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Jan 10, 14 12:45 PM
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WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE!

A reminder- obama in a similar act of defiance closed war memorials in DC as a political bully tactic,

which is just one example of many used by these guys. If a reporter just mentions Benghazi...today you are labeled by the MSM an extreme right-wing wacko, homophobic, gun toting, redneck, bigot.

Leno: ‘Now That Christie Is Denying Everything He Sounds Even More Presidential’


By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Jan 10, 14 3:00 PM
Christie is an example of someone with a narcississtic personality disorder, or megalomaniakina like champ
By They call me (2826), southampton on Jan 10, 14 4:53 PM
Seeing one of their own injured, the Right-Wing turns on him and tears him apart, damning him, among other things, as a "megalomaniakina like champ". (I don't know what that is, but I'll bet it's very, very bad.)

One wonders if other members of the Right-Wing animal kingdom will put in an appearance besides the hyenas and snakes attacking a weasel.
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Jan 11, 14 10:05 AM
Seeing one of their own ? Was not my turn to watch the Rino pen

Maybe, McCain,Boehner,Chambliss,McConnell,Lugar,Alexander,Snow, King and Graham Can take some of that Tarp money and buy some oil to rub on his feet and then sing him a lullaby
By They call me (2826), southampton on Jan 11, 14 12:30 PM
More than a thousand years ago, in England, the precedent had been set a ruler might be judged before a representative assembly. The law, in other words, was not simply the sovereign’s decree; nor yet was it an interpretation of Holy Scripture. The law, rather, was a set of inherited rights that belonged to every freeman in the kingdom. The rules did not emanate from the government, but stood above it, binding the king as tightly as they bound the poorest ceorl. If the monarch didn’t ...more
Jan 11, 14 1:57 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
uphold the ancient laws and customs of his realm, he could be removed.
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Jan 11, 14 1:57 PM
An administration of bad associations, paybacks, executive orders and selected appointments the likes this country has never seen.

They circumvent THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES on a regular bases.These people were selected not elected and 8.7 Trillion wasted dollars later just look at the mess they have made.

After the last 5 years one thing has been proven ANYONE can be President, You can simply add 32 czars, a speech writer and the very important and necessary
TELEPROMPTER. ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Jan 11, 14 2:35 PM
I see that a skunk has joined the Right-Wing menagerie herein, fouling an entire spectrum of the Republican Party rather than just Gov. Christie alone. How long will it take for normal Republicans to realize what a catastrophic mistake it is to tolerate these disloyal ideologues as colleagues?
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Jan 11, 14 11:04 PM
We have realized and in 2010 we started a process of cleaning house. It is the Rinos that are disloyal, Disloyal to the constitution and the republic

Thats why you defend CC
By They call me (2826), southampton on Jan 12, 14 2:39 AM
Robert Laszewski—a prominent consultant to health insurance companies—recently wrote in a remarkably candid blog post that, while Obamacare is almost certain to cause insurance costs to skyrocket even higher than it already has, “insurers won’t be losing a lot of sleep over it.” How can this be? Because insurance companies won’t bear the cost of their own losses—at least not more than about a quarter of them. The other three-quarters will be borne by ...more
By 27dan (2854), Southampton on Jan 13, 14 8:24 AM
to 27dan:

Glad to see that a Right-Winger is aware of the existence of the Congressional Budget Office, a federal agency set up by Republican President Nixon to provide objective and nonpartisan economic analysis and budgetary projections to Congress.

According to the CBO, the Affordable Care Act will SAVE American taxpayers $1,400,000,000,000.00 (that's $1.4 trillion) over the next twenty years compared to doing nothing at all (i.e. the "Republican Plan".)

Allowing ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Jan 13, 14 10:43 AM
7257 Opinions by philathome
By 27dan (2854), Southampton on Jan 13, 14 2:47 PM
My good fellow, The CBO is wrong about Obama Care and the following is hardly a " do nothing plan" Now if you would be so kind to pass the Gray Poupon,

Once again you occupy the occupy wall street mentality, This is America stop trying to change it to Sweden

Obama Care is hurting more Americans than it is helping. It is a bad law and will ruin America. It must be repealed & replaced with common sense.
1. Tort Reform,
2. competition across state lines,
3. Health savings ...more
By They call me (2826), southampton on Jan 13, 14 1:25 PM
Haa been down here a little more than a week and I am starting to feel human again. Once again the South has restored my faith in humanity I always forget the whole world is not as P.C. and helpless as NY... Man oh man Phil the sun is out the food is off the hook and the ladies are as beautiful as ever. Its great to get out of the progressive toilet for a while talk to interesting people...Golf in the morning, poolside by day....Chill out with a cocktail at a beautiful resturant with a reggae band ...more
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Jan 13, 14 10:25 PM
to They call me:

Another naked, unsupported assertion (“The CBO is wrong … “) plus a wish list that you call a "healthcare plan" which could have been scribbled on the back of a cocktail napkin.

Have you considered changing your username to “Scarecrow”?
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Jan 14, 14 12:08 AM
I guess you prefer the 20,000 pages of regulations, with many more to come the make up ObamaCare the bill we had to "pass to find out what was in it" what a F'en joke. Your single payer scam will fail in the end
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Jan 14, 14 6:35 PM
America's Dwindling Economic Freedom
Regulation, taxes and debt knock the U.S. out of the world's top 10.
By Terry Miller
Jan. 13, 2014 8:05 p.m. ETWorld economic freedom has reached record levels, according to the 2014 Index of Economic Freedom, released Tuesday by the Heritage Foundation and The Wall Street Journal. But after seven straight years of decline, the U.S. has dropped out of the top 10 most economically free countries.

NO SURPRIZE THERE

By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Jan 14, 14 6:29 PM
Not our responsibility to pay for preventive care and all the rest of these frilly plans for people that are here illegally and do not want to work.What part of that dont you understand
By 27dan (2854), Southampton on Jan 14, 14 9:36 PM