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Jul 31, 2012 5:47 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Thiele Joins Effort To Close Hampton Bays Nightclub

Jul 31, 2012 6:39 PM

State Assemblyman Fred W. Thiele Jr. has joined local residents and Southampton Town Police in calling on the State Liquor Authority to consider revoking the liquor license of a Hampton Bays nightclub, one that has been cited in the past for serving alcohol to minors and also was the site of a still unsolved murder in 2010.

Mr. Thiele said he has heard complaints from a number of his constituents regarding noise, crime and parking issues at Dream nightclub on Canal Road. But he said he first decided to take action at the request of Town Police, who, he said, contacted him more than a year ago to ask that he push for the revocation.

Mr. Thiele sent a second letter to the State Liquor Authority (SLA) on June 5—two weeks before the club’s owners appeared before the SLA board—repeating his earlier request.

At that meeting on June 20, the board and the nightclub’s attorney, Terrence Flynn, on behalf of club owners Frank and Maria Vlahadamis, negotiated a suspension of their liquor license for 30 days—seven days in July and 23 days in September—as a result of charges that the club has become a focal point for police attention and employed a person convicted of a felony or misdemeanor. The suspension was also prompted by the death of club patron Carlo Petrusa, 64, of Riverside, who was shot while standing outside the business during the early morning hours of October 29, 2010. He died the next day, and his killer has not been found.

The nightclub’s owners are due to appear before the SLA board again on September 27, at which time they are expected to discuss renewing their liquor license.

In December, the Vlahadamises were denied a renewal of their liquor license due to a pending case involving altercations that took place at the business on July 21, 2011, and September 5, 2011, according to William Crowley, a spokesman for the SLA. Mr. Crowley explained in an email that the club is allowed to serve alcohol while that case is pending under the State Administrative Procedures Act, but he did not provide details about the two altercations. In the past, the club has received summonses for permitting patrons to use controlled substances on its premises and its bartenders have been arrested for serving alcohol to minors on several occasions, according to the SLA.

“We don’t get involved with these very often—in fact, the last one was in Westhampton Beach, probably 20 years ago now,” said Mr. Thiele, who added that he won’t know if his request will be honored until after the Vlahadamises meet with the SLA in the fall. “It’s not often that I get a call from the police department asking us to support them.”

James Vlahadamis, an attorney whose parents own Dream, denied allegations that underage drinking ever occurred at the nightclub. He noted that alleged violations occurred during an undercover sting operation conducted by Town Police Lieutenant James Kiernan, who was suspended in May and still faces more than 30 disciplinary charges. Lt. Kiernan once led the police department’s now defunct Street Crime Unit.

Mr. Vlahadamis said he and his family are discussing plans to sue Lt. Kiernan for unfairly targeting their club. In 2008, his family, which also owns the Hampton Bays Diner, sued the officer and police department, alleging that they were being unfairly targeted because the diner caters to a large number of Latino patrons. That case ended with a hung jury and will be retried in the fall, according to James Vlahadamis.

Southampton Town Attorney Tiffany Scarlato said Tuesday that the town filed a motion to have the case dismissed, though that request is still pending. She added that Stephen Vlahadamis, another son of Mr. and Ms. Vlahadamis, has filed a notice of claim with the town—the first step leading to a potential lawsuit—alleging that police officers used excessive force and malicious persecution in an incident that occurred in the parking lot of the club on April 30, 2011.

“This is not just about the Dream nightclub. This is very, very personal, because they are accusing my family of allowing criminal activity to occur at the nightclub,” James Vlahadamis said. “It was a specific attack against the nightclub because [Kiernan] was being sued by my family because of another matter.”

Southampton Town Police Chief William Wilson did not return calls seeking comment this week.

Mr. Vlahadamis pointed out that his family has taken measures to increase security at the club, including hiring guards and a monitor as part of a new security plan that was presented to the SLA.

“We do our best to police the property that we control, but we don’t control the public,” Mr. Vlahadamis said in response to allegations that club patrons litter and cause noise disturbances in the neighborhood. “To blame the nightclub, I think, is a little bit unreasonable.”

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Why now? A little late if you ask me.
By johnj (1024), Westhampton on Aug 3, 12 8:39 AM
i dont know much about this clab, or the entire situation, but i dont think it is proper for an elected official to advocate the closing of a business owned by one of their constituents. it seems not right to me.
By tm (174), mtk on Aug 3, 12 9:01 AM
Really, think it through. This "constituent" is a leach on society. His club and the diner as well does nothing but take from the community in the form of ongoing fights and drunkards. All Frank cares about is the almighty dollar. Look at the pretty neon sign you see as soon as you enter Hampton Bays, a sign which was strictly prohibited when the permit for renovations was issued.
I would think that Fred would be neglectful in his duties were he to not take a stand on this matter.
By Phadreus1340 (144), Southampton on Aug 3, 12 9:12 AM
I can understand that, but to me it just seems inappropriate for an elected official to get involved in such a way.
By tm (174), mtk on Aug 3, 12 11:47 AM
The number of annual murders in the Town of Southampton is quite low - a handful a year. in 2010 there was a murder outside Dream Nightclub and I believe in the same year there was a murder on the front steps of the Diner which is owned by the same guy. What a coincidence . . . DREAM should be shut down. The days of HB being a club town for Nassau County are over
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Aug 3, 12 9:29 AM
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That Club has always been a menace.About 5 years ago I saw a Blood cut a Crip from ear to ear with a box cutter. I called the SHTPD and they were very slow to respond.This was during the winter
By TianaBob (256), S.Jamesport on Aug 3, 12 9:31 AM
Bob are you sure that was not like 8 -10 years ago? Only because someone i know (not a crip) was cut almost ear to ear as he walked out the front door of (at the time) Dublin over. Has always been a violent vibe under that bridge.
By year round (22), southampton on Aug 3, 12 12:28 PM
This guy was wearing blue and was standing in the street about 4am.A blood walked by out of nowhere and sliced the poor guy and quickly walked toward the bridge.Could have been 8 to 10 years ago. Time marches on.There is a war going on in the city right now among factions of bloods. 5 of them were shot to death in a car.Attacks are taking place on Rikers.Marcy Projects where Jay-Z grew up is full of bloods.He's with the Illuminati. No wonder we're sinking like a stone
By TianaBob (256), S.Jamesport on Aug 4, 12 7:46 AM
It's a quality of life issue. If a business can't run itself according to local regs, it should go. Now, if Theile would turn his attention to all the nightclubs in Southampton Village that the village doesn't want to rein in....maybe people could get some sleep.
By goldenrod (505), southampton on Aug 3, 12 10:43 AM
They are not going to close all the clubs in HB so move on. They bring too much income to the Town especially for the police department. This club is a craphole though . I wouldn't mind a classy lounge type restaurant in its place or a gay bar. There are none of them out here!!
By tranquility1985 (25), Westhampton on Aug 3, 12 11:01 AM
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Lollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll You must not be looking to hard!
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Aug 3, 12 3:45 PM
Accidents Happen EVERYWHERE. The murder that happened there and at the dinner were out of the control of its owners. ANd just as the Boardy Barn has been targeted since years ago to be shut down, it won't be. It generates too much money for the town and police. The noise and littering should be addressed, i agree! But its hard to control routy people, they do a good job at it.
By Velad07 (1), Hampton Bays on Aug 3, 12 11:56 AM
Tony at the Barn pays plenty of money to keep his place open.Plus in the off season every Republican wing ding is held there. Murders are not accidents.
By TianaBob (256), S.Jamesport on Aug 3, 12 12:09 PM
Not too many murders in the area. For all the years Boardy Barn has been around there hasn't been one.
By bb (922), Hampton Bays on Aug 5, 12 10:00 PM
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Want to see 4-6 police cars, an ambulance or two, an out of control scene from a Hampton Bays bar scene? Drive down Dune Road when the bar scene is active on the weekend evenings. You will call up each and every Couuncil person and demnad that tey go there and spend two hours and then remedy the situation.

Out of control, ..a waste of taxpayer dollars, a blight on the Hamlet and then follow up by going to the HB train staion and see MTA cops, Town cops, Sheriffs,... is this what makes ...more
By waterboy (11), southampton on Aug 3, 12 12:13 PM
You mean Honest Jim Malone does not represent Hampton Bays well?
By V.Tomanoku (790), southampton on Aug 3, 12 4:00 PM
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tranquility is right-Hampton Bays needs a nice gay bar.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Aug 3, 12 1:45 PM
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I say lets close the Diner and put in a Chick-fil-a
By 27dan (2854), Southampton on Aug 3, 12 3:52 PM
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I had heard the BB in HB was a gay bar? No?
By G (342), Southampton on Aug 3, 12 2:13 PM
CB's
By johnj (1024), Westhampton on Aug 3, 12 3:25 PM
thought CB's was a sports bar?
By CaptainSig (716), Dutch Harbor on Aug 3, 12 8:50 PM
Jim Malone does not serve anyone well except Jim Malone. The ultimate "whats in for me" person.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Aug 4, 12 12:39 AM
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Rowdy nightclubs--HAMPTON BAYS
Homicides outside clubs--HAMPTON BAYS
Underage drinking violations--HAMPTON BAYS
Occupancy violations in restaurants by 1000%--HAMPTON BAYS
Illegal motel conversions--HAMPTON BAYS
68% of SH Town police calls--HAMPTON BAYS
Anyone beginning to see a pattern?
By aging hipster (201), Southampton on Aug 4, 12 7:21 AM
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By BIGjimbo12 (201), East Quogue on Aug 4, 12 5:51 PM
This can be said about every town in the united states that has a summer crowd - what is your point? Only things happen in Hampton Bays?! Are you just a summer bigot of our little hamlet that does alot of wonderful things? If you don't like it LEAVE!
By Terbear (77), Southampton on Aug 6, 12 12:09 PM
What? Every village and hamlet in Southampton Town has a summer crowd and doesn't have the issues Hampton Bays has. Nor does every town that has a summer crowd.
By RealLocal (76), Bridgehampton on Aug 6, 12 4:57 PM
Reallocal (giggles), better check your statistics hon, Bridgehampton (where you tag yourself) has the same amount of crime that Hampton Bays does, along with Westhampton Beach (not going to mention WHB HS), as well as Easthampton, etc ad nauseum. Every village and town has their problems in the summer, you just think picking on Hampton Bays and the working class that really LIVE here makes you better? The people of Hampton Bays are hard working, nice and intelligent people, so please do some research ...more
By Terbear (77), Southampton on Aug 7, 12 10:00 AM
Maybe the politicians are mad that they don't have a silent interest in the club. I forget, is Thiele an Independent or Republican? or is he both?
By Geppetto (59), Southampton on Aug 4, 12 2:12 PM
Thiele was that kid in High School that got beat up all the time and carried all his books on his hip - with a slide rule in his shirt pocket.
By BIGjimbo12 (201), East Quogue on Aug 4, 12 5:53 PM
That establishment has been operating for along as I can remember. I can recall the days of American Pie, Dublin Over, and Brazil. The people who are complaining the most about this club were not aware that this place existed before they moved in? If I was looking into moving into a neighborhood I think I'd research quality of life issues, such as "is there a nightclub next to my house?" SH Town did a pretty great job of destroying the club scene in Hampton Bays and surrounding areas by cracking ...more
By BaymenNYC (59), Manhattan on Aug 5, 12 12:01 PM
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How did the diner become a nightclub anyway? As far as the dream club goes the two owners of the property have been leasing the property with no care of the welfare of the area. They have been renting numerous apartments on the grounds and letting them fall into disrepair.
A murder at the club and the club owners think they are being singled out? I'm glad Fred Thiele is getting involved it's time to shut them down.
By chief1 (2800), southampton on Aug 5, 12 3:05 PM
Fred is a loser. He has whined about fixing the gas price issues for years out here. This will be no different - and nothing will change. Fred should retire - or at least be reminded that his time was done years ago.
By G (342), Southampton on Aug 5, 12 10:06 PM
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Fred The Imposter receives a number of complaints from taxpayers and sits on it until the Town Police notify him and then it takes him until this June to send a "second" letter to the State Liquor Authority. Fred is an amazing politician. He does nothing until he can get his name in the paper. Meanwhile the taxpayer continues to suffer from his lack of attention. He's flipped so many times it's hard to know who he represents....it sure as hell isn't the soon to be poor taxpayers!
By Tennyson (77), Quogue on Aug 6, 12 5:24 PM
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By xtiego (698), bridgehampton on Aug 10, 12 7:15 PM
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By xtiego (698), bridgehampton on Aug 10, 12 7:30 PM