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May 23, 2019 1:06 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

First Of Two Shinnecock Billboards Nears Completion

The Shinnecock Indian Nation billboards along Sunrise Highway Thursday morning. ANISAH ABDULLAH
May 24, 2019 10:04 AM

Construction is nearing completion for the Shinnecock Indian Nation's first billboard along the south side of Sunrise Highway on tribe-owned land in Hampton Bays.

On Wednesday evening, two 30-foot-tall LED screens were installed on both sides of the structure above the base. A 15-foot-tall display of the Nation's seal was secured at the top the following morning. The billboard across the highway, on the north side, has yet to see much progress.

Construction began late last month and there have since been several requests from Southampton Town and the State Department of Transportation to stop the work. Despite the attempts, the Nation has been proceeding with its plans, claiming full authority over the site.

The Nation and the State DOT are in the process of pursuing litigation against each other over this project. Last week, the state agency said that it is in consultation with the state attorney general's office to take legal action after issuing a stop work order to the contractor, Idon Media, along with a cease and desist letter to the tribe, on Friday. Tribal trustees said a few days later that the Nation plans to submit a court filing soon.

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By mychildmatters (67), SOUTHAMPTON on May 23, 19 1:26 PM
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Because the Shinnecock Nation is a sovereign NATION! Because that is the SHINNECOCK NATION's Land, because the SHINNECOCK NATION governs itself, because the SHINNECOCK Nation does not have to follow State or town laws on their own territory! The Shinnecock Nation's territory is forever marked for all to see as the come into the land of the SHINNECOCK NATION!!!
By NativeWoman (18), southampton on May 23, 19 1:39 PM
And you have a fire dept? A police force? How about an ambulance? Just saying.
By Draggerman (903), Southampton on May 23, 19 4:43 PM
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Shinnecock has members in the fire dept, police force, teachers and armed services, just saying.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on May 23, 19 4:52 PM
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It has not yet been decided by a federal court that the land that the signs are on is in fact sovereign. Not defending what mychildmatters said but what you are saying is not exactly true at this point.
By rrrglynnn (19), Hampton Bays on May 23, 19 4:52 PM
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Then the sovereign NATION shouldn't take one dime from the state or town if it is not part of NY State. Why should NY citizens pay you? Our state police should never come on your property. Police yourselves. Put up your own hospital, get your own fire department. Educate yourselves.
By Babyboo (275), Hampton Bays on May 23, 19 6:41 PM
you don't have to look at it. i can't see it from my house. smoke the peace pipe bro
By BrianWilliams (83), on May 23, 19 6:51 PM
Chace Quinn a prime example of Shinnecock blood.
By lirider (270), Hampton Bays on May 23, 19 9:37 PM
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Good job, alienating the whole tribe because of one person. I think that’s called bigotry.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on May 23, 19 9:48 PM
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Ignorance.

By DavidAdam (3), RIVERHEAD on May 24, 19 12:00 AM
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lirider. what your point? Are you suggesting that bc this bad egg is from the Reservation that they are ALL bad eggs? Bc if thats the case, well than what about the WHB Fire Dept? The assistant Chief was busted with 175 bags of heroin in the vehicle...so does that mean ALL the member are bad eggs too?? I didn't think so , so stop it with the bigotry nonsense please.

Sorry WHB FD but I had to go there to prove a point that one bad egg doesnt ruin the bunch.
By toes in the water (839), southampton on May 24, 19 7:04 AM
Then don't send your kids to public schools then. You should have to put in which you don't into the system. Complete crap. I like the bill boards though. Great business move. Mr. Trump would def approve those.
By watchoutnow968 (49), Southampton on May 24, 19 12:08 PM
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The Fire Dept. is volunteer. All volunteers are appreciated.

The rest of them are a career choices. They are professions for which they receive a salary. What does that have to do with the fact that they are a "Sovereign Nation" yet use a police force, a school system, and an ambulance that is paid for my other people's taxes? Why don't they supply their own services then their people could get salaries from the Nation. Win Win.
By bb (884), Hampton Bays on May 24, 19 5:43 PM
Draggerman/CG has raised an excellent point! They have no infrastructure whatsoever nor anything that a true sovereign nation provides for it's citizens.


By elliot (250), sag harbor on May 24, 19 7:17 PM
My point is that the tribe has been "watered" down. Forgive the term. It's been infiltrated by not just this Chace character. I mean the guy complaining about their fishing rights is Brazilian or something. It's in the history books. Ask any real tribe member and they'll say the same.
By lirider (270), Hampton Bays on May 26, 19 7:27 AM
“Watered down”? Yeah, nice try trying to pull your foot out of your mouth. Instead you insert it further. Have you asked any “real” tribe member? I have, on a daily basis. You try to quantify your line of reasoning by saying they are not real. That’s the same line trump used during hearings when he was trying to block native Americans from opening a casino. Keep trying
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on May 26, 19 7:53 AM
You have to openly admit there are Shinnecock tribal members with Portuguese, Irish, Polish & Hungarian blood in their veins. All the locals know this. It's not a demeaning factor but the 100% truth none the less.
By themarlinspike (345), Northern Hemisphere on May 26, 19 8:17 AM
So that’s a reason to dismiss someone’s being? The tribe built (2) signs, that’s a good reason to attack everything about them? It’s not right or decent, but keep on.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on May 26, 19 8:40 AM
"IT'S NOT A DEMEANING FACTOR BUT THE 100% TRUTH NONE THE LESS.
BY THEMARLINSPIKE (313), NORTHERN HEMISPHERE ON MAY 26, 19 8:17 AM."
Did you go to school ? Do you not know how to read ? What's your problem ? You are anti-positive.
May 26, 19 9:02 AM appended by themarlinspike
WHEN YOU CLAIM THIS STATEMENT IS UNTRUE, YOU ARE THE BIGGEST LIER IN SOUTHAMPTON. NO DATA RESEARCH NECESSARY !!!
By themarlinspike (345), Northern Hemisphere on May 26, 19 9:02 AM
I don’t usually reply to you for a reason. If it’s 100% true, post the research that backs up your claim. In the meantime, it’s about 2 signs. If a company or a arm of the government does something do you attack their ethnicity for their decision? No. read all the comments marlin spike from the northern hemisphere.you can reply on Monday, you will have plenty of time.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on May 26, 19 9:14 AM
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By lirider (270), Hampton Bays on May 26, 19 8:47 PM
I’m friends with many on the reservation. I’ve never experienced that attitude from any of them. Trump blame trump guy? What’s this have to do with trump?thanks for your “real” input.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on May 26, 19 8:55 PM
You’d think they were a sovereign nation or something.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on May 23, 19 1:31 PM
Sign looks high tech, and the nation's seal on top of monument is a handsome touch. As long as they don't proliferate, it's hardly the horrific eyesore the pearl clutchers insisted it was. No worse than the school electronic billboards that are all over the place on local roads (yes, it's much larger, but it's an appropriate scale for 4 lane highway).
By MoronEliminator (194), Montauk on May 23, 19 1:42 PM
SOVEREIGN, takes money from the state.
STATE issues stop work order, A suggestion?
Uses State Police to police their Sovereign nation?
State plows and fixes their roads?
Town provides ambulance and fire protection?
State pays for schooling?
SOVEREIGN???
By knitter (1716), Southampton on May 23, 19 1:52 PM
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Clearly you need to do some research on Native Americans and the US Government, research treaty rights, research how this land became the United States in the first place. Once you do that you will then have answered all the questions you just posted.
By NativeWoman (18), southampton on May 23, 19 2:00 PM
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The state has benefited the most, collecting those taxes on the million dollar homes. Now where did the land come from that they have built on? Give us back all our land and you can keep all the police/ambulance and road construction, how about that? want to trade?
By adczeta (78), Southampton on May 23, 19 2:32 PM
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Read a history book.
By lursagirl (217), southampton on May 24, 19 3:52 PM
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By mychildmatters (67), SOUTHAMPTON on May 23, 19 2:37 PM
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umm. i think that bees actually make honey, so you're not going to attract them using honey.
By dogfacejones (81), Southampton on May 23, 19 3:00 PM
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Wow, ignorance at it's best. I haven't responded to comments, but since you claim "yourchildmatters" let me tell you that so does mine. She is a proud member of the Shinnecock Tribe. Me and her father saved every penny we had to build our home. Since we cannot and will not sell our land, we cannot get mortgages. Those broken down homes" you see - We worked our tails off for. I lived in my house for 111 days without electricity and 2.5 years without hot water. So before you want to come at us and ...more
By LMVT (55), Shinnecock Indian Reservation on May 23, 19 4:29 PM
Interesting, you speak of all those things but not the community gardem we have, not the awards that have been rec'd from the EPA, not the beautiful homes and lawns that you also pass. We are microcosm of the outside world. You will find the same issues here that are happening in Southampton. Please don't tell me your that gullible that drugs and alcohol are running rampant in the Hamptons. There are rich, poor, middle class and you find the same on the Reservation. We have doctors, lawyers, police ...more
By adczeta (78), Southampton on May 24, 19 1:03 AM
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WOW mychildmatters....NOW I know whats wrong with the area ....its people like you. I pray you only have but one child to pass your racism onto and I pray for your child when he/she becomes alienated bc of the values your ruined your child with. Take your own advice , about the honey, before you get stung by the bees!

And where here in the hell do you get off thinking that you are above the Shinnecock Tribal members after the comment you posted?! If there were 2 ppl left standing in the ...more
By toes in the water (839), southampton on May 24, 19 7:27 AM
Mychildmatters, wow. Your poor kids.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on May 23, 19 2:50 PM
Thank You! My kids aren't poor they work REALLY hard and don't look for hand outs so thanks. Its really important to teach our children to work hard NOT look for handouts. And my family is Native American thank you very much. !
By mychildmatters (67), SOUTHAMPTON on May 23, 19 2:58 PM
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Exactly where are the dirt roads? The short cuts through the fields?
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on May 23, 19 3:58 PM
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Sweet.
By Preliator Lives (397), Obamavillie on May 23, 19 3:06 PM
Mychildmatters hahaha when is anyone going to stop listening to this woman!
By shlady09 (12), southampton on May 23, 19 3:08 PM
I believe the Shinnecock nation has been misled and hoodwinked by the advertising companies that are funding the project and will never reap the millions claimed.

It would be economic suicide for any local business to insert themselves into this maelstrom of controversy by advertising on these boards. National advertisers may unknowingly be drawn in briefly but will be running to void any contracts once it is brought to their attention that such advertising is illegal on both the federal ...more
By VOS (1195), WHB on May 23, 19 3:10 PM
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I'm all four the sign, but thinking you own land for centuries is BS. You are on Earth you rent everything then you give it back. This is a country of created equal not your rights are better than mine.You are entitled to what the constitution says this is the United States and the reservations are part of it.
By chief1 (2718), southampton on May 23, 19 3:11 PM
And Columbus was a nice guy right? The Native American people were here before the constitution was written. We rent everything and give it back alright...destroyed.How does that work??? Doesn't make sense we rent everything. Please, are you kidding?
By lursagirl (217), southampton on May 23, 19 7:39 PM
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The Native Americans are all immigrants. Just like every other group that has settled in this country. Problem is they don't like that idea & want time stopped for them.
By East End 2 (145), Southampton on May 23, 19 7:52 PM
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So stop paying property taxes to the state, because your logic means they don't own the land, rebel!!! Hun it's not about constitution these were treatise that were done, so too bad, maybe if they had better Native history in this school system you would know this. Please please crack a book and then debate.
By adczeta (78), Southampton on May 24, 19 1:12 AM
Adczeta, the comments on here are ignorant and appalling. No credibility when they say the things they say. I’d be willing to bet most of them have never been on the res, but they know all about it. I bet most of them have never been in anyone’s house in the res. I’d bet most have never had a conversation with anyone. The bigoted comments are disgusting and disappointing, but not unexpected.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on May 24, 19 5:07 AM
That's such a copout. Then technically why do they have to adhere to a constitution. Please. They came here over 15,000 years ago. Not 600. They were slaughtered, tricked, robbed and seduced by a bunch of free loading savages. That's not immigration thats conquering and taking over an already indigenous people. We took their wisdom and flushed it down the toilet. Took their peace pipe and then slaughtered them and made cigarettes and added cancerous agents to the tobacco. Our alchohol soddened society ...more
By lursagirl (217), southampton on May 24, 19 3:46 PM
The vast majority of "Native Americans" died from diseases. Smallpox being the biggest killer. Literally millions. As far as where the East Coast population originated and when, what is their haplogroup?

As far as conduct, you should review King William's War, Queen Anne's War, King George's War, Dummer's War, and the French & Indian War.
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on May 26, 19 9:12 AM
Finally, the current time and temperature in a large, easy to read format as I drive by this stretch of Sunrise. Prayers = answered
By Pacman (249), Southampton on May 23, 19 3:53 PM
wow ..could the sign be any more obnoxious ?..should say welcome to queens , what a disgrace.

By dtrain (9), Dallas on May 23, 19 4:56 PM
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At least have some squeegee guys while traffic drives slowly past the monuments.
By harbor hound (30), southampton on May 23, 19 5:45 PM
Good for the Shinnecock Nation! They have been screwed over , lands stolen and their culture vilified. Carry one good people.
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on May 23, 19 5:51 PM
At least the Press has the guts to say it like it is. Billboards.

Will be interesting going forward, as boycotts are likely...
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on May 23, 19 6:10 PM
A perfect example of your glaring, brazen hypocrisy.

You wholeheartedly support illegal immigrants, regardless of the costs imposed on the communities in which they reside in mass numbers, well away from you. But when it comes to a sign imposing on your view from a 4 lane highway for a few seconds, which costs you nothing, and benefits a group that has more a legitimate grievance than most of "victim classes" you claim to champion, you insist the law be followed to the letter, and bolstered ...more
By NateNewtown (96), east on May 23, 19 8:04 PM
As a supporter of jus sanguinis, I call bull**** on your post.

Have a nice day...
May 23, 19 10:33 PM appended by Mr. Z
BTW, a sixty foot billboard that towers over the tree line is hardly what one could consider "minorly aesthetic". Ask the people who can see it from their house/yard how they like it...
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on May 23, 19 10:33 PM
How much will the Shinnecocks actually be making?
By bb (884), Hampton Bays on May 24, 19 5:48 PM
I will personally boycott every company I see advertise on these. And that isn’t because I think I know who is legally in the right...I really don’t. I am just offended by these horrible things, and how they impose themselves on me. And I won’t be a customer of any company that imposes their message through them. Maybe I’m all by myself, I don’t care. Personal call.
By CPalmer (71), Southampton on May 23, 19 6:21 PM
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I can guarantee you, you will NOT be alone. We need to start a Facebook,Twitter and/or Instagram account so people can post and keep track on the sign advertisers. Also BOYCOTT ALL the reservation businesses!
By longtimelocal (54), Southampton on May 23, 19 6:34 PM
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oh yeah they "impose" on you for 10 seconds as you speed past. quit tv and radio too for the ads they insult you with.
By BrianWilliams (83), on May 23, 19 6:58 PM
Long since done.
By CPalmer (71), Southampton on May 23, 19 7:34 PM
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So what is gained in 10 seconds?
By bb (884), Hampton Bays on May 24, 19 5:55 PM
I just saw it fired-up; It’s a GIANT COLOR TV not your average billboard It looks like something out of Time Square.
By Non-Political (108), Hampton Bays on May 23, 19 7:21 PM
I'm sure that all the people that are stuck in bumper to bumper traffic tonight "being imposed on for 10 seconds" are just thinking "Happy Thoughts" about the Shinnecocks tonight.

When you are sitting in traffic make sure you call and complain to your elected officials...
Assemblyman Fred W. Thiele Jr.
By nobody200 (16), Southampton on May 23, 19 8:20 PM
As the governor flys over.
By harbor hound (30), southampton on May 23, 19 9:56 PM
I'm sure that all the people that are stuck in bumper to bumper traffic tonight "being imposed on for 10 seconds" are just thinking "Happy Thoughts" about the Shinnecocks tonight.

When you are sitting in traffic make sure you call and complain to your elected officials...
Assemblyman Fred W. Thiele Jr.
By nobody200 (16), Southampton on May 23, 19 8:20 PM
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They are sitting in traffic because they are all slowing down to rubber neck and to take pictures to post of FB Twitter an instagram. BTW using your cell phone to take pics is breaking the law. So when they call to complain, should they complain that the drivers are rubber necking an cops should be there ticketing all the people who are driving while having phones in their hand taking pics because they wanna be the first to post on social media??

Check out the photos above ....hahaha
By toes in the water (839), southampton on May 24, 19 7:38 AM
Assemblyman Fred W. Thiele Jr.(631) 537-2583
Kenneth LaValle New York State Senator (631) 473-1461
By nobody201 (5), Southampton on May 23, 19 8:24 PM
...and behold the boycotters bibles. This is going to backfire spectacularly. I cannot think of one national or local brand advertising on these carbuncles. The Jitney? BMW? Buzz Chew? Mercedes? PC Richards? The American Hotel? Marders? Local merchants? Staples? Nike? Adidas? Delta Airlines? Ford? ....The kiss of death, social media will decimate the advertisers. This will become a national story. Every NY media personality will pass by every weekend... Perhaps medium density well designed well ...more
By Moby Dick (6), Sag Harbor on May 23, 19 8:27 PM
watch...
By DavidAdam (3), RIVERHEAD on May 23, 19 11:25 PM
Shinnecock have done a good job at portraying themselves rebellious instead of loving peaceful. Drugs, gangs, disruption. They'd get more support from their neighbors with a little humility instead of protests, disturbing the peace. Most people on the rez are african american anyway. It's in the history books. They married and had children. Stop crying victim. You're Americans with some native blood. Like the rest of us who are a different race, color.
By lirider (270), Hampton Bays on May 24, 19 7:08 AM
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It sounds more like everyone on here is crying about being the victims. Humility? Bow down to the “boss”?there are more drugs and gangs on the rest of Long Island then the reservation.less whining and a little reflection might be a better course of action.reading the posts on here is pathetic. Nothing has changed in our society.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on May 24, 19 7:31 AM
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Who would advertise?
Marlboro cigarettes, Budweiser beer, Casino Gambling, TRUMP MAGA
By Non-Political (108), Hampton Bays on May 23, 19 9:04 PM
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Russian 2020 political ads. LOL!
By nobody201 (5), Southampton on May 23, 19 9:07 PM
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Who would I talk to about advertising a Columbus Day sale?
By basic1 (12), Southampton on May 23, 19 10:16 PM
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I love it. This is perfect. You deserve it. My forefathers are laughing at you.
By DavidAdam (3), RIVERHEAD on May 23, 19 11:21 PM
So when a car crashes into it, or it causes an accident due to causing a distraction, the Nation will have the liability associated with the sign. Not the DOT, County or Town.
By North Sea Citizen (538), North Sea on May 24, 19 6:27 AM
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North Sea, who’s to blame for every other accident that occurs on 39? That’s a stretch to start pinning blame on (2) signs.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on May 24, 19 6:49 AM
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While i think the billboard is pretty dumb, i have to say that the Seal on top looks great. Love those two whales kissing.
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (682), southampton on May 24, 19 6:37 AM
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By Speakingfacts (2), Southampton on May 24, 19 7:01 AM
The transformation has become fully complete. Southampton Town, including the canal and all points east, now lies within the "Indian Nation". We have reverted 140 into the past and Southampton has become the isolated outpost settlement of Deadwood, where lawlessness rules and politicians are corrupt as they come. Maybe in 100 years or so, with some very hard work, this area will become a safe & decent place to make a prosperous living and raise a large family.
May 24, 19 7:20 AM appended by themarlinspike
LONG LIVE THE SIGN !!!
By themarlinspike (345), Northern Hemisphere on May 24, 19 7:20 AM
Because it’s not YOUR culture, and this is not the original land of YOUR ancestors, you can not emphasize or relate to anything that is done within the Nation even going beyond this sign period. I could see if it was a giant sign that said No Trespassers Beyond This Point, Or something derogatory towards the “Hamptons” then maybe your opinions would matter.

I can count numerous irrelevant things in the Hamptons that trees were cut down for and you want to complain about ...more
By Speakingfacts (2), Southampton on May 24, 19 7:36 AM
Since according to you no one will see them anyway, what do they achieve? I am not sure why you'd compare the statue company and gasoline stations to something that towers 60 foot in the air. One you see when you look forward, the other you need to look UP.

You are saying that 'your culture' is a loud neon sign? I really don't see the connection.
By bb (884), Hampton Bays on May 24, 19 5:54 PM
I don’t like the signs either but if we’re being honest with ourselves SHT is not really setting a good example with building monster houses and condo complexes everywhere. The town board needs to take a look into the mirror before criticizing the billboards.
By GoldenBoy (341), EastEnd on May 24, 19 7:56 AM
This is a lose lose situation. People don’t like the sign. The Shinecock nation does not care about its neighbors. If the position is that if they have been wronged therefore they don’t care about wrong anyone else, then that means war. If they are merely ignoring the voices of their neighbors and their community, then they are uncaring and undeserving of mutual respect and consideration. It may or may not be their land, but it has an effect on everyone around it, and their lack of ...more
By resident9 (12), hampton bays on May 24, 19 9:20 AM
By the vast majority of the comments on here, you are saying the exact thing you are accusing the Shinnecocks of. It’s amazing how quickly it’s raising its head. Bigotry is obviously a team sport.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on May 24, 19 9:46 AM
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By themarlinspike (345), Northern Hemisphere on May 24, 19 1:18 PM
A sucker is born every minute.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on May 24, 19 1:21 PM
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My question is since the state issued a cease and desist order, how did they get power to light it up (and so quickly..)? Doesn't the state have some control over PSEG. I have a lot less issues with the billboard if it wasn't glowing.
By kkelly75 (30), Hampton Bays on May 24, 19 9:29 AM
They're using a gas powered generator for electrical power.
By S.N.A.F.U. (6), SOUTHAMPTON on May 31, 19 8:59 AM
Did the whole nation vote on the sign or was the decision made by the Tribal leaders with Lance at the helm? Should all Shinnecock Indians be shamed because the sign exists? Just because non Indians don't like the sign doesn't mean we are bigots. The sign did not go up because of Columbus or the Fed government taking land away from most Indian tribes. The sign costs were fronted by an anonymous source and proceeds of advertising income will be split with the Shinnecock nation. I like the logo. ...more
By auntof9 (143), Southampton on May 24, 19 10:46 AM
Aunt, I didn’t say all were bigots, I said the vast majority.read the comments. If you don’t like the sign, don’t attack the whole tribes being, that’s bigotry.not every biz self funds every project.how they got financial help is no different then any biz.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on May 24, 19 11:34 AM
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The Nation is a business? Will the proceeds be split between the residents of the Reservation to make necessary improvements on their homes? As pointed out my another poster, there are those who can use it.

For the record there is a difference between financial help, as in a loan, and sharing a profit.
By bb (884), Hampton Bays on May 24, 19 5:58 PM
Do these stay lit up 24/7?
By 2329702 (41), East Quogue on May 24, 19 10:55 AM
On May 23rd, 2019 the New Shinnecock Money Making TV Ad's did something that No One could ever have done before. The westbound evening traffic actually SLOWED DOWN. No, Not because of a cop parked on the side of Sunrise Highway. No, Not because there were many Reduced Speed signs that could be ignored as usual. But the drivers of all those miles of vehicles backed up because They Had No Choice. After childhoods that saw these people parked like blobs in front of the TV set, their now limited ...more
By NaYawkr (2), Riverhead on May 24, 19 11:10 AM
MUST SEE TV !

MUST SLOW DOWN to Watch TV AD's !

NO CHOICE, , , , Brain Pre-Programmed to Watch TV Ad's !
By NaYawkr (2), Riverhead on May 24, 19 11:19 AM
Looks good.
By A Great American (85), East Quogue on May 24, 19 12:41 PM
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State Attorney is a waste. Should have sent a invite... Will jay and theile be present for photo ops???
By knitter (1716), Southampton on May 24, 19 1:21 PM
State Attorney is a waste. Should have sent a invite... Will jay and theile be present for photo ops???
By knitter (1716), Southampton on May 24, 19 1:22 PM
They are breaking the law. They don't follow laws. So... everyone break the law!!! Everyone put up your neon signs!!!!
By Win sky (46), Southampton on May 24, 19 1:34 PM
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Some drunk dude will vandalize it and then the charges and counter-charges will begin. You ain't seen nothing yet...unfortunately.


By harbor (400), East Hampton on May 24, 19 1:52 PM
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By jim (45), hampton bays on May 24, 19 2:05 PM
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So he has 104 million by your account?
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on May 24, 19 2:32 PM
What are they doing with that eyesore going up along the Shinnecock canal ?
By AndersEn (169), Southampton on May 24, 19 2:49 PM
Unit sales will soar as soon as they advertise on the TribalVision. Or maybe no one will go near the place if they do.

Time will tell. My bets are that the Rechlers won't go near it, after all they continue to get free land from the very agencies that are now battling the Shinnecocks. Have you seen where the road alongside the project is being moved to gift the developers with free property? Have you seen how much land is now being developed south of where the property line has always ...more
By VOS (1195), WHB on May 24, 19 3:13 PM
i'll pay for an ad that says "get out of the left lane. its for passing!"
By BrianWilliams (83), on May 24, 19 3:00 PM
Looks like its leaning in a photo on Patch. Hope they didn't half-a** it.
By CandDHB (4), Hampton Bays on May 24, 19 4:29 PM
The Sag Harbor Fire Department put up their own mini version of this type of sign on Brick Kiln Road. It's in violation of the village code and was erected without a permit.
Just sayin'.
By Arnold Timer (321), Sag Harbor on May 24, 19 5:21 PM
I haven't seen it, but I needs to be taken down. There are supposed to be village codes and laws and the village/town is supposed to enforce them. For everyone. Shame on the Fire Dept.
By bb (884), Hampton Bays on May 24, 19 6:02 PM
A Public service message for the billboards: slow the F down, you're not in the Rotten Apple anymore!!!
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on May 24, 19 5:46 PM
The conflict between the tribe and Southamptonites is due entirely to its claim of exception to the obligation to obey the laws that all of the rest of us must follow (eg. signs on the highway); to its further claim of ownership of Southamptonites' homes; and finally to its claim that its economic failings are due entirely to oppression by Southamptonites (when in reality they are due primarily to the fact that Indian land can't be mortgaged.)

The Shinnecocks' corrosive assertions of privilege ...more
By highhatsize (4028), East Quogue on May 24, 19 6:20 PM
"due primarily to the fact that Indian land can't be mortgaged."

Not true, hasn't been for some time. The link below is just one of numerous mortgage programs for tribal land.

https://www.hud.gov/program_offices/public_indian_housing/ih/homeownership/184
By ChrisDiPetta (36), on May 24, 19 6:34 PM
On the website above, the Shinnecock Tribe is not listed as eligible for mortgages through this program. Are there other mortgage options available?
By Arnold Timer (321), Sag Harbor on May 24, 19 6:55 PM
Keeerist HH, that's one of the most pompous , bigoted , verbose pontifications from you yet, and that's truly saying something.
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on May 24, 19 7:09 PM
@ ChrisDiPetta

Thanks.

I was ignorant of the existence of this program (which I see has been in existence since 1992.) Now that the Shinnecocks have gained the federal recognition that is a necessity of participation, perhaps the dilapidated state of housing on the reservation will improve. (Although I do note that it is only available for single family residences and not for commercial mortgages so its utility is limited.)

Are there other programs that are more expansive?
By highhatsize (4028), East Quogue on May 24, 19 7:19 PM
The Shinnecock should build whatever they want.

Its the developers and people like Ira Rennert that get away with murder because they are rich, powerful and politically connected. Also, if these signs raised tax revenues, there would be state senators coming out to give the signs their blessing. Bottom line here: Money Talks. If you have it out here you can do ANYTHING you want. The Shinnecock have neither money nor clout. So they are putting up a big, LED, middle finger, to the area. ...more
By elliot (250), sag harbor on May 24, 19 7:20 PM
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I understand both sides of the argument about the sign. The issue is some of the Shinnecocks are really suffering, and need help. That should be what matters
By chief1 (2718), southampton on May 24, 19 7:59 PM
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By saggguy (20), SAGAPONACK on May 24, 19 8:17 PM
Why don't you take aim at Vered's leg statue or the FD sign and stay in your own neighborhood
By joe hampton (3348), The Hamptons on May 25, 19 10:19 PM
Nice leg !!!
By themarlinspike (345), Northern Hemisphere on May 27, 19 12:38 PM
Driving by today, the advertiser I saw was an operation called Shinnecock Functional Fitness. https://shinnecockfunctionalfitness.com

They install rubber mats for gyms, apparently. I see no difficulty denying them my personal rubber mat business. But if someone out there is building a gym, going elsewhere is a very American way to register your opinion.
By CPalmer (71), Southampton on May 24, 19 9:11 PM
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you need a rubber room
By BrianWilliams (83), on May 25, 19 12:46 PM
Calmer you are not being nice
By chief1 (2718), southampton on May 24, 19 10:02 PM
Saw that animalleague.org was advertising, aka north shore animal league. Called them up to make sure they knew about the sign controversy. Told them I wouldn't support any business that advertises on these signs. BOYCOTT all advertisers!
By nobody200 (16), Southampton on May 24, 19 10:43 PM
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You probably don't even support them to begin with. I'm calling them and telling them I support them.
By lursagirl (217), southampton on May 25, 19 1:23 PM
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Lotsa free advertising for the Shinnecock Nation right here! Face it , they have prevailed in getting this done , good for them!!!!!
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on May 25, 19 6:27 AM
@ bigfresh

Quotes:

1) "Keeerist HH, that's one of the most pompous , bigoted , verbose pontifications from you yet, and that's truly saying something."

2) "Lotsa free advertising for the Shinnecock Nation right here!"
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1) In the interest of fairness, and in the full realization that expecting a RATIONAL response (or, indeed, ANY) from you is as foolish as expecting an HONEST one from the Liar-in-Chief - ...more
By highhatsize (4028), East Quogue on May 25, 19 10:07 AM
The sign looks great! Good revenue for Shinnecock.
By Lets go mets (357), Southampton on May 25, 19 3:57 PM
They do look great! Terrific job! Went up fast too! Thanks to all involved!
By Dawn_O (45), Southampton on May 25, 19 4:12 PM
Just passed the billboards and they were not operational. Did NYS finally read Idon Media the riot act? Did someone cut the power? Sabotage or PSEG?
By longtimelocal (54), Southampton on May 25, 19 7:01 PM
Startup Gremlins, New Dark Skies policy, Run out of ads already?
By longtimelocal (54), Southampton on May 25, 19 7:22 PM
...the sign should read

'Slow Children At Play'
By loading... (556), quiogue on May 25, 19 9:31 PM
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Ignoring laws and offending everyone is great way to be, right Chief? I have land too but, even though it’s my land, I can’t put whatever I want on it,...especially if it affects the environment and other people. Shame on you Chief. Your policy and attitude is a disgrace. Is that the example of leadership you show to your group? You’re a BAD neighbor. Is that the lesson for the children? For humanity in general, it’s an ignorant position to take. One that won’t be ...more
By resident9 (12), hampton bays on May 26, 19 1:14 AM
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i'd like to know how these signs affect you in a negative way. i really doubt your quality of life will change. fake outrage strikes again
By BrianWilliams (83), on May 26, 19 7:19 PM
the signs really aren’t offensive at all. Except the fake stone veneer on the base- they can do a little better...
By wrk (17), East Hampton on May 27, 19 6:44 AM
I kinda like them. There. I said it. Don’t drink and drive!
By even flow (831), East Hampton on May 27, 19 7:17 AM
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I believe the current stone veneer is just a temporary vinyl wrap in order for it to look more finished than just concrete board. The finished base is supposed to be cut rounded river rock with a illuminated ICONIC sign and time & temp. displays. We were promised time and temp. If NOT, then we have been baited and switched. That would be a deal breaker for me!
By longtimelocal (54), Southampton on May 27, 19 7:48 AM
Billboards are still Off. - Day 2 . Have Iconic Media and/or Ultra-Lum finally gotten the message from NYS.

Waiting for the Shinnecock Nation spin on this new development. Probably smething like, they "heard" the opposition to the Monuments from the local community and voluntarily turned off the advertising in order to reach a better agreement with the community.

With the seal on top and no advertising they are starting to look like actual monuments. If it wasn't for the precedent, ...more
By longtimelocal (54), Southampton on May 27, 19 10:26 AM
Undependable solar power.
Wind turbine wouldn't work either.
In need of a three prong plug.
By themarlinspike (345), Northern Hemisphere on May 28, 19 8:27 AM
No matter how you do it. it's ALL about keeping those little electrons excited!
By longtimelocal (54), Southampton on May 28, 19 8:57 AM
We can get another 25 feet in height with an American Flag placed atop.
By themarlinspike (345), Northern Hemisphere on May 27, 19 12:37 PM
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Should have let them build the casino!!!
By Sturgis (569), Southampton on May 29, 19 11:14 AM
eliot 250 says it all. Has anyone tried applying to the Town lately for a Bldg Permit?....Impossible Requirements. The Town is catering to the Rich and trying to force out the Locals to further turn Eastern LI into Hollywood East for the Manhattan and Wall Street Crowd because its become all about Money. Town Bldg Codes are Designed to eventually Force the Sale of Your Home to Developers for a Knock Down as there is little Farmland left to be Stolen by the Cleverly Written Inheritance Laws of NYS.
As ...more
By Brady (14), Southampton on May 31, 19 4:21 AM
Didn't realize that they had control of all of that property... But since it seems they do, wouldn't more money have been made for them by using that space to put in a food rest shop and cig stores like they have on Hill St rather than just a billboard?
By S.N.A.F.U. (6), SOUTHAMPTON on May 31, 19 9:06 AM
Build the casino!!!!
By watchoutnow968 (49), Southampton on Jun 2, 19 8:21 AM