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Jul 19, 2016 6:07 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Southampton Town Trustees Eyes Flying Point Beach As Drive-On Possibility

Jul 20, 2016 9:55 AM

The Southampton Town Trustees have their eyes on a new strip of beach where four-wheel-drive vehicles might be allowed, and this time it is east of the Shinnecock Inlet.

Trustee President Ed Warner Jr. said recently that he has spoken with Town Supervisor Jay Schneiderman about designating a drive-on stretch at Flying Point Beach in Water Mill.

The proposal would be to allow people to drive onto the beach at the southwest corner of the Flying Point Beach parking lot and access almost 1,000 feet of beach west of the lot. Driving to the west would avoid interfering with bathers at Flying Point Beach, and Mr. Warner also pointed out that there are no houses near this part of the beach, which was deeded to the town to be used as a recreational area.

The Trustees have been looking for more beaches where driving could be permitted in an attempt to relieve pressure at the “Picnic Area” in Southampton Village, the only ocean beach in town where four-wheel-drive vehicles are allowed during the day in summer.

Earlier this month, Mr. Warner, Trustee Scott Horowitz, Mr. Schneiderman, Councilwoman Christine Scalera and three members of the Southampton Association for Beach Access met at Triton Lane to discuss opening Hot Dog Beach in East Quogue to four-wheel-drive vehicles.

Southampton Village Mayor Mark Epley has previously said the Town Trustees were not doing enough to seek out additional beaches for driving, especially east of Shinnecock Inlet. But he is hopeful about this opportunity, he said, especially in terms of the relief the Picnic Area will get if another area is opened.

“I’m a big supporter,” Mr. Epley said. “I know it’s going to give us the relief we’re looking for.”

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This is ridiculous...Time to abolish the Trustees!
By Toma Noku (616), Southampton on Jul 20, 16 10:38 AM
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Are you nuts?
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jul 20, 16 6:22 PM
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The trustees are doing a wonderful job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By ADAMSG (53), EAST QUOGUE on Jul 20, 16 12:30 PM
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Even thinking of eliminating the ONE entity that holds the public easement, and protects and defends the very heart and soul of our community is ridiculous.

The Trustees are important and clearly misunderstood .

The Trustees hold the easement for the benefit of PUBLIC ACCESS for the entire Atlantic Coast of Southampton Town.

By 007 (45), East Quogue on Jul 20, 16 1:56 PM
Yes give the trustees a pat on the back (not too hard)
By CaptainSig (716), Dutch Harbor on Jul 21, 16 8:05 AM
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Show ur support to the Southampton Town Trustees by signing the petition at southamptonbeach.org
By toes in the water (884), southampton on Jul 20, 16 5:27 PM
Seems to me that your organization's, SABA, primary purpose has been to promote beach parking for automobiles angd done very little else of note to promote the opening of more beaches for the residents of Southampton.

Flying Point Beach in particular is the only beach East of Southampton Village and Fosters beach to which many residents of North Sea and Watermill and other areas have relatively easy access to West of Mecox Bay. To access Scott Cameron Beach, for example, requires driving ...more
By Toma Noku (616), Southampton on Jul 20, 16 6:24 PM
Trustees don't govern piping plover closures. That's federally mandated protection with implementation on the local level.
By H2O (85), easthampton on Jul 20, 16 6:46 PM
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the people who put the fences up work for the trustees
By CaptainSig (716), Dutch Harbor on Jul 21, 16 7:59 AM
H20 as you seem to know about the Trustees. maybe you can clarify the following for us.

Recently, the person responsible for managing the closures for the Trustees testified to the Trustees the following with respect to this years "closures" : There where 7, Seven, nests located this year throughout the WHOLE town. Further, he stated that, as per federal law, the trustees have to close the beach 100 meters to each side of each nest. So in light of this, how come whole sections of beach ...more
By Toma Noku (616), Southampton on Jul 21, 16 12:22 PM
Toma - not sure of the specifics as I have not seen the fencing you refer to, but it's possible that some of the more extensive areas of fencing were erected by Suffolk County, NYSDEC or Fish and Wildlife. These agencies assist the Town with the program and are known for marking off giant areas at the start of the summer and leaving them up until September, regardless of the presence of absence of plovers.

Additionally, it's unlikely there are only 7 nests "in the whole town", but rather ...more
By Nature (2966), Southampton on Jul 21, 16 12:42 PM
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Fantastic idea. Both east and west of the canal,, open up more areas for "We the People" Spread it out like it used to be....
By North Sea Citizen (568), North Sea on Jul 20, 16 7:53 PM
Sounds like a good idea, but wouldn't it make sense to put the access at the very end of F.P. road by the Cut? How would this proposed access work? Another cut through the dunes or would we be driving alongside people walking on the beach from the parking lot?
By Barley Dunne (21), Southampton on Jul 21, 16 6:05 AM
How much would it cost to just pave all of Flying Point Beach?
By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Jul 21, 16 6:14 AM
Glad to see that the Trustees are working for us to REGAIN our 4x4 access! Thank you gentlemen.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jul 21, 16 6:35 AM
As part of group of investors applying to build the first gas station on the sand, I am in favor of turning the entire beach into a toll road with stop lights and diners. Safer than CR 39 with a better view.
By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Jul 21, 16 9:38 AM
What an asinine idea.You really must have your head in the sand if you think opening up this or any other area will alleviate any 4x4 congestion,There are a thousand more SUV owners in every community who never go to the inlet but would instantly use the new access causing more fights as well as ruining the one place we can go to escape traffic.I support the trustee's but they need to stop listening to the knuckleheads at SABA who I at one time gave money to but are now overreaching by not only ...more
By vag (13), southampton on Jul 21, 16 12:39 PM
Sorry,I say knuckleheads lovingly,I know you are mostly good people who like me are just overwhelmed by the influx of newcomers
By vag (13), southampton on Jul 21, 16 12:53 PM
WOW!!! Please dont blame them.....the Village Board advised us ALL at the Public Hearing to go to the Town Trustees to ask for more beaches to be opened.

Please dont blame SABA for the overcrowding on the East End !

Something has to give! What do you suggest to alleviate this problem??You say this is an asinine idea, but do you have a better idea?? Rather than being so negative , lets try to come up with a logical solution to benefit All.
By toes in the water (884), southampton on Jul 22, 16 8:27 AM
Of course the village will say that,they will do anything to get the problem off their hands but the answer is not to open up more beaches,That is like saying lets make county road 39 two lanes so it will be safer and we won't have any more traffic jams
By vag (13), southampton on Jul 22, 16 6:33 PM
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Sounds like a good idea Southampton Trustees!

While your at it take all the letter roads back as stated in another article!

Final gripe (this post); Why the hell do I need a County sticker to ride on a Southampton Beach by the Inlet? Nothing in the Dongan Patent about the County of Suffolk being able to usurp the right's of town residents???
By AnnaAdrag (5), Water Mill on Jul 22, 16 9:24 PM
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Jeez Vag, way to insult a couple thousand of your friends and neighbors! Opening up this area will not create more 4x4 beach drivers , it will allow us to spread out and reclaim a small portion of our historical access!
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jul 25, 16 6:29 AM
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Sorry if you feel disagreeing with you is insulting,but you are wrong.Just look around at all the fields and woodlands we grew up on that are now overpriced giant houses with probably at least two new SUV's in each driveway.There are also many thousands of us longtime locals who feel that the beach is the last place we can go to escape the madness.Last I checked you may drive on any beach anytime for eight months out of the year and for fifteen hours a day the other four,that is enough
By vag (13), southampton on Jul 26, 16 8:35 PM
I disagree with you as well .
By toes in the water (884), southampton on Jul 27, 16 7:18 AM
"Knuckle heads at SABA" is insulting to the thousand ++ members. As to your point about opening additional access will create more 4x4 drivers, I disagree, respectfully.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jul 27, 16 5:59 AM
Alright I apologize for knuckleheads but not my position
By vag (13), southampton on Jul 27, 16 7:40 AM
All good Vag, respectful dialogue and exchanges of opinions will lead to a solution that works for all of us.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jul 28, 16 7:00 PM
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New poster? There are a lot of us who DO enjoy taking our trucks on the beach. That's the way we have being going to the beach for generations, and unfortunately, we have had our access reduced over the years and it's about time that we get some of it back! I ask you to go to the "picnic area" and check it out for yourself, there is plenty of parking if you feel strongly about not driving on. It's a welcoming family friendly place with a mix of 4x4 owners and walk on folks.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Aug 19, 16 5:41 PM
This matter is going to be determined by a judge, not our opinions. OR the Trustees.
By AL (83), southampton on Jul 13, 17 11:17 PM
hope that Flying Point idea is quashed. Trustee election may finish the matter.
By pat paulsen (7), southampton on Oct 31, 19 11:09 AM