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Oct 2, 2013 9:37 AMPublication: The Southampton Press

Southampton Board Of Education Schedules Straw Vote On Merger

Oct 2, 2013 10:35 AM

The Southampton School Board voted on Tuesday night—against the wishes of a majority of community members in the audience—to send the proposed merger with the Tuckahoe School District to a public vote.

The vote was unanimous among the board members to allow the straw vote to proceed on October 29, although a couple of board members expressed only a desire to allow the public to decide rather than support for the merger.

A majority of the members, though, outright endorsed the merger—their last chance to do so, because they are legally unable to campaign for either outcome after Tuesday night’s meeting.

If the merger is ultimately approved, Southampton School District taxpayers are estimated to see an 8.7-percent increase in the annual property tax rate. That is equivalent to about $105 more per year on a house assessed at $500,000, according to estimates.

On the other hand, Tuckahoe’s property tax rate would be cut by about two-thirds, saving the owner of a house of equal value about $2,400 a year.

In previous meetings, Southampton officials had warned that if the merger failed, the Southampton School District would likely lose all of its tuition-paying students from Tuckahoe. That would mean a loss of roughly $3 million per year—the tuition currently being paid by Tuckahoe students. Such a loss likely would force massive cuts at all three Southampton schools, or an increase to the district’s tax rate anyway, school officials have said.

Tuckahoe Superintendent Chris Dyer has said in the past that the decision to pursue a merger was forced by the financial situation of his district. Mr. Dyer estimated previously that due to the state mandated 2-percent cap on tax levy increases, the district would exhaust all of its reserve funds by the 2015-16 school year.

Southampton School Board member Nicholas Palumbo was the first to speak in favor of the merger, saying that the decision should have no bearing on the 2014-2015 school budget. “You can weigh in on that in the spring,” he said to those in attendance, noting that they should instead look to resolve the long-term future of the district. “And the future looks better with our neighbors from Tuckahoe,” he concluded.

Board Vice President Donald J. King agreed with that sentiment, saying the decision was all about preserving Southampton’s future. “This merger should’ve happened 25 or 30 years ago,” he stated.

Board member Jake Wilson said it was simply the right thing to do for all involved, including the children of Tuckahoe, who may otherwise be left without a sufficient alternative. “My mom was in a one-room school district for many years, and she can’t figure out an iPhone now,” he joked. “I would hope we aren’t looking at saving a couple of nickels in our pocket … when we are looking at losing a quarter of the students from our high school.”

Following the board member comments, the audience had a chance to comment, starting with Lori Tutt, a Southampton School District resident who attended Tuckahoe schools in her youth. “There is really no reason for a Southampton resident to want to put this through,” she said. “It doesn’t logically make sense. We can’t benefit from the Tuckahoe School District in any way.”

Ms. Tutt went on to claim that Tuckahoe’s infrastructure, school security, educational programs, and even faculty were inferior to that of Southampton schools.

“I walked up to the [Tuckahoe] School,” she said, describing her experience a number of days before Tuesday’s meeting. “Nobody buzzed me in—there was no security guard or monitor—and I stood in front of the secretary for two minutes before she recognized me. … I could’ve easily walked into the school with a gun and nobody would’ve stopped me.”

Ms. Tutt concluded by pointing to Tuckahoe student test scores from the past decade, referenced in the merger study, calling the numbers alarming. “Those numbers are scary low, in my opinion,” she said.

Another Southampton district resident, Orest Bliss, said he had heard comments from the board about doing what is right for the children, but never heard “the relevant facts” being discussed by board members. “I heard nothing about the fact that Tuckahoe, in the last 10 years, has had a modest increase in enrollment, but a 93-percent increase in their budgets,” he said. “There are an awful lot of people coming from Tuckahoe to lobby for this merger tonight—I wonder why that is—but their voices should hold no water here.”

“I heard [the board say] tonight that you’ll let the taxpayers vote on it,” added Todd Goodwin, a Florida resident with a home in the Southampton district. “I hope you mean taxpayers and not just registered voters.” Board members informed Mr. Goodwin they had no authority to allow that.

The audience comments got heated toward the end of the meeting. With Tuckahoe residents in attendance—four of whom spoke in favor of the merger—and after repeated attacks from Southampton district residents on Tuckahoe’s reputation, one more Southampton resident approached the microphone. She started her statements by saying, “To say that Tuckahoe is a stagnant cesspool would be generous …”

The woman was cut off by board members, and the meeting was called to order. But following her statement, two more Tuckahoe parents rose to directly answer the woman and defend the school’s integrity.

“What does Tuckahoe have to offer? It has me, and my wife, who spent all day setting up a book fair today, and our children, who will spend a third of their school years in this high school regardless of this vote,” said a visibly upset Tuckahoe parent.

The School Board will be sending out a “merger statement of fact” on Wednesday morning to all Southampton district residents, and plans are in the works for meetings between concerned parents and the board, meetings the board phrased as a listening tour.

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I would seriously hope that the authorities will review any incident whereby a local woman would publicly comment on visiting my children's school with a gun.
By KevinLuss (356), SH on Oct 2, 13 10:21 AM
Really? She didn't say she went into the school with a gun. She was making a comment on the fact that security was lax. Calm down.
By bubby (236), southampton on Oct 2, 13 8:01 PM
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By KevinLuss (356), SH on Oct 3, 13 5:24 AM
I am not voting for the merger either, Ms. Tutt, but let's get our facts straight:

1) Tuckahoe taxpayers have been carrying Southampton for years by paying exhorbitant tuition fees to your underperforming district. Fees that were up to 30% HIGHER than Westhampton Beach.

2) I have NEVER gotten into Tuckahoe without being buzzed in.

3) When it comes to school performance, BOTH schools are lacking. In fact, if you compare the schools using NY State school ratings they ...more
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Oct 2, 13 10:30 AM
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KevinLuss, after reading and seeing how the Southampton taxpayer feels about Tuckahoe children and their families, how could you support a merger with these people? And their board has treated our kids no differently, even going so far as to insist they be pulled out of their high school with 2 years left to go. This is NOT about education. Period.

By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Oct 2, 13 10:32 AM
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They don't want our students (but they LOVE our tax dollars) and we don't want their substandard school. Sounds like a win win, huh?
By dagdavid (646), southampton on Oct 2, 13 10:39 AM
Progressnow, with the above on the table all bets are off.
Oct 2, 13 10:42 AM appended by KevinLuss
For clarification, Lori Tutt represents nobody but herself and her family. Not anyone else and no group should be condemned because of the insane comments of a few.
By KevinLuss (356), SH on Oct 2, 13 10:42 AM
“There are an awful lot of people coming from Tuckahoe to lobby for this merger tonight—I wonder why that is—but their voices should hold no water here.”

"and after repeated attacks from Southampton district residents on Tuckahoe’s reputation"

“It doesn’t logically make sense. We can’t benefit from the Tuckahoe School District in any way.”

“To say that Tuckahoe is a stagnant cesspool would be generous …”

Wow. ...more
By dagdavid (646), southampton on Oct 2, 13 11:14 AM
And it is not just Ms. Tutt and the others at that meeting that have expressed these sentiments. I have heard similar comments and feelings from a number of Southampton taxpayers regarding Tuckahoe and its students. This is not a few bad apples, but a pervasive and poisonous attitude that has existed for years now.
By dagdavid (646), southampton on Oct 2, 13 11:17 AM
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"to say that Tuckahoe is a stagnant cesspool would be generous…”

Well, that just about says it all about what the Southampton parents thought about the Tuckahoe school district, its chronically incompetent School Board and overpaid and overbenefited administrators and teachers, their commitment (or lack of) to academic excellence, total absence of any redeeming value, results, their financial irresponsibility and bankruptcy and their "SCARY LOW" test scores that are making ...more
By Obbservant (449), southampton on Oct 2, 13 11:18 AM
Georgette should never have said that hurtful comment. It is wrong and from what I understand, it caused a lot of pain in the hearts of people that are just trying to do their job. Please forgive me as I try to heal the wounds that are inside of me. I've been through some rough times and it comes out on this website sometimes. It's true, I'm a male and I was never a board member.
By Observannt (4), southampton on Oct 5, 13 5:15 PM
Tuckahoe's problems can be traced back to at least 2009 and are the fault of every board from that time on.
By dagdavid (646), southampton on Oct 2, 13 12:03 PM
The 2009 school board likely would not have conceded to the demands that kids get pulled from Westhampton, nor can we blame any three individuals for the current financial woes. It's very expensive to run a small and rapidly growing district. The poor economy, the tax cap and the lack of community support that would be needed to pierce the tax cap made an already difficult situation worse.
By lamm (304), Southampton on Oct 2, 13 8:26 PM
The lack of community support for the school is a direct result of the totalitarian rule of successive boards from 2009 to the present.
By dagdavid (646), southampton on Oct 2, 13 8:52 PM
I understand that some people feel that way, but I'm sure the overwhelming majority feel that their taxes are just too high. The reason that Tuckahoe needs to merge is because it's expensive to run a small school, no matter who is on the board (btw, weren't you a very vocal part of the contingent that strongly supported larger pay raises and step increases for the Tuckahoe teachers when the board tried to reign in spending a few years ago?). The reason we're considering Southampton over Westhampton ...more
By lamm (304), Southampton on Oct 2, 13 9:27 PM
A community? For years Tuckahoe has been asking Southampton to lower tuition rates. Time and time they refused. No. Period. Until they realized that a majority of kids were choosing Westhampton Beach, a choice that saved Tuckahoe taxpayers up to 30% per student. And what about all of those kids at Westhampton Beach from Tuckahoe, are they not part of a community?

Let's not erase the past to defend the present. Successive boards have dismissed the community on issues ranging from superintendents ...more
By dagdavid (646), southampton on Oct 3, 13 8:23 AM
A totally democratic vote regarding on-campus housing is hardly totalitarian. It was voted down and it didn't happen, that chapter is closed and has nothing to do with today's merger vote. It's dollars and cents, practicality, location and community. Perhaps your definition of "community" is a handful of people on a school board that you're not fond of, my "community" is far larger than that and exceeds well beyond just a tuition payment to a school. Perhaps you don't realize it, but 2009 board ...more
By lamm (304), Southampton on Oct 3, 13 4:08 PM
Denying how Tuckahoe got to this point benefits no one. My definition of community is one where all members and their children are considered important.

You want to make it all about dollars and cents, what about children, families, and education? I understand that a fifteen minute drive to a school district that has educated hundreds of a Tuckahoe kids is outside of your "far larger community" , but it is a part of mine.

To say that school board decisions had nothing to do ...more
By dagdavid (646), southampton on Oct 3, 13 8:20 PM
For those of you who have been following this more closely than I have, I'm curious as to what is behind the comment in the story attributed to Southampton school officials that the district would "likely lose" all Tuckahoe tuition students if a merger fails. If true, it would certainly be a mitigating factor that would get me to reconsider my admittedly quickly-reached inclination to reject paying an additional 8.7% in taxes (particularly considering that the town just jacked up my assessment by ...more
By BigBlue (12), Water Mill on Oct 2, 13 12:51 PM
Big blue, Tuckahoe Students have always had the choice of going to high school at Westhampton Beach or Southampton. Two years before Tuckahoe granted SHHS an exclusive to all graduating eighth graders, a majority of Tuckahoe Students chose Westhampton Beach -which was charging up to 30% in tuition fees per student. Southampton saw this, demanded an exclusive and then pushed for the merger fearing they would lose their Tuckahoe taxpayer cash cow.

If the merger does not pass and students ...more
By dagdavid (646), southampton on Oct 2, 13 1:06 PM
Orest Bliss and Todd Goodwin have some nerve. If the golf clubs that those two cheap snakes belong to for more $$ than their taxes would increase didn't stick it to Tuckahoe by gaining tax exempt status their district wouldn't even be discussing this issue. If approving the merger was a status symbol good for a picture in the latest Hampton Magazine these two would give to the district just like they do to the hospital, for nothing more than a good seat under the tent and a picture with some old ...more
By BiListren (7), East Hampton on Oct 2, 13 1:08 PM
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First of all obbservent, the Brazilian at the front desk speaks Portuguese, Spanish, French and English. She is invaluable to the Tuckahoe School community. Secondly, there are 4 other faculty members who are bilingual so I am not quite sure where your facts are coming from.
I would also like to point out that the majority of teachers employed by Tuckahoe are of excellent quality and have taught my children through the years. The decline in test scores for the past 10 years, as well as the ...more
By seriously concerned (6), Southampton on Oct 2, 13 2:07 PM
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"First of all obbservent, the Brazilian at the front desk speaks Portuguese, Spanish, French and English. She is invaluable to the Tuckahoe School community. Secondly, there are 4 other faculty members who are bilingual so I am not quite sure where your facts are coming from."

Unfortunately, you totally missed the point. First of all, you will never find in my post any statement denigrating the Brazilian lady who is really a nice person. That was your unfounded assumption. My point is that ...more
By Obbservant (449), southampton on Oct 9, 13 7:12 AM
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Shame on Lori Tutt....She should be embarrassed of her small-minded comment.
As for other people whose children attend Southampton School District but who are living in Tuckahoe, shame on you too!
By local39 (14), southampton on Oct 2, 13 4:16 PM
This is a merger that will be beneficial to both school districts. If the merger is voted down and Southampton loses the financial backing of the Tuckahoe School District for the high school, you will see major cuts throughout Southampton schools. It will also effect Tuckahoe as without the merger it will be almost impossible to stay open as their current school.this is about what is best for both districts not one or the other because without a merger both schools will go through losses in school ...more
By tc (4), Southampton on Oct 2, 13 4:32 PM
To make myself clear I am a former student of the Southampton Public Schools and a current parent of three children in the Tuckahoe Common School District. I have never been able to walk into the school without being buzzed in day or night and believe the current teachers at Tuckahoe that would merge with Southamptons teachers are an outstanding group of men and women many of whom went though the Southampton School District as well. We should be looking at what "Right" thing for the children is.

Teague ...more
By tc (4), Southampton on Oct 2, 13 4:40 PM
well at least we have someone who is educated commenting! It is about the kids, thank you.
By local39 (14), southampton on Oct 2, 13 5:54 PM
I have to wonder what Ms. Tutt's motivation is, to be so downright insulting to the Tuckahoe community, the Tuckahoe children and even the Tuckahoe teaching staff. The kids from Tuckahoe eventually go on to SHS and excel there alongside the best of the Southampton School kids, so she obviously isn't making either intelligent or informed comments.
The reality is that Southampton and Tuckahoe are one community. Southampton and Tuckahoe kids marched seamlessly in the Homecoming Parade. They ...more
By lamm (304), Southampton on Oct 2, 13 6:49 PM
I don't think Lori Lutt deserves to be pilloried by Tuckahoe people, especially those who were complicit and collaborated with management (school board) in tolerating and creating the horrendous present condition of Tuckahoe. Lutt and the other impassioned Southampton parents who spoke the truth are truly horrified by this prospect, and for good reason. I can't blame them

She is voicing out what so many in their community feel, especially in Southampton, that Tuckahoe has become an academic ...more
By Obbservant (449), southampton on Oct 3, 13 9:00 AM
Observant - please stop bashing Tuckahoe school and spreading your vile hate. There are a million good things about Tuckahoe school and it's so sad to read your comments. We are all part of the same community. Stop it already with the hate. My children are thriving there and their test scores are well above average. It is NOT a "toxic waste site, polluting everything it touches". That is an unbelievable amount of hate towards a small, lovely public school.
By tuckahoemom (19), Southampton on Oct 3, 13 11:16 AM
From what I understand, Observant is one of the former Board members responsible for the mess that school is in! I feel sorry for the children of that district that have had to live through 5 years of incompetency, arrogance, and stupidity!
By witch hazel (224), tatooine on Oct 3, 13 2:52 PM
Tuckahoemom, the solution to any long term chronic problem is recognition that there are problems, realize the depth of the problems, analyze them, and forge alternative solutions within your control. That is how rational human beings think.

You and the Board and your Tuckahoe Yahoo culprits have always been in denial with rose colored glasses sipping sodas at the Peconic Beach Club talking about how great things are at Tuckahoe - "There are a million good things about Tuckahoe" - there ...more
By Obbservant (449), southampton on Oct 3, 13 10:18 PM
Obbservant isn't a former school board member and isn't female either.
By lamm (304), Southampton on Oct 4, 13 7:29 PM
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On second thought, I should not have written that very negative and personal comment. May God bless all of you. Good luck, I want to get on the road to healing myself. I have been sick too long and to be honest, I really do like the Tuckahoe School Board. They do the best they can.
By Observannt (4), southampton on Oct 5, 13 5:12 PM
From the Tuckahoe website:
Located within the boundaries of the district are all or part of the communities of Tuckahoe, the Art Village, and Shinnecock Hills, as well as a portion of the Incorporated Village of Southampton.
A small district made up of parts and portions of small places in Southampton. The Tuckahoe district is within the boundaries of Southampton Town and Southampton Village.
Does this make sense in the big picture? Why are there two districts in this area? Why ...more
By Out East (3), Southampton on Oct 2, 13 9:29 PM
Southampton is the logical place to send our kids to high school. A decent sized contingent of parents wanted Westhampton as a choice (Westhampton has an excellent reputation) and it was economically feasible, it even saved the district some money. My best guess is that Tuckahoe parents weren't requesting Hampton Bays as a high school option.
By lamm (304), Southampton on Oct 2, 13 9:56 PM
Tuckhoe does not have a high school so, years back, the choice of Westhampton was added.

As a taxpayer, you should be grateful that students had that choice because for 10+ years tuitioning kids to Westhampton has saved the district millions of dollars as Southampton (before being granted an unwarranted exclusive) was charging up to 30% more per student!

Even after the exclusive they only lowered the charge to about the same level as Westhampton.
By dagdavid (646), southampton on Oct 3, 13 9:50 AM
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To the Editor: You took this headline off the front page out of order and with 34 comments should be on the most commented column. The last listed in the most commented only has 22 comments.

Does this article offend some long time advertisers? Curious about how things work in this paper.

By Obbservant (449), southampton on Oct 4, 13 3:04 AM
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Some of these comments are disturbing. ALL schools have areas of low scores ALL schools have areas in need of repairing. What is the main goal here!! Educating our children... All of the children who live in "Tuchoe" also live in the Southampton School disctrict. They live here, they have friends here, they work here, they spend their money here. So those of "YOU" who want this merger to fail had better think about the outcome. If your upset about your taxes "slightly" going up If the merger ...more
By mychildmatters (70), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 7, 13 1:08 PM
One of the Tuckahoe residents who claimed the merger was about his family, his wife and kids etc., forgot to mention that he owns three properties in Tuckahoe and stands to gain tremendously by a reduction of his taxes.
By localcitizen (110), Southampton on Oct 8, 13 5:22 PM
Congratulations to Westhampton Beach High School for being named a New York State Reward School!
Only 8% of all schools state-wide received this incredible recognition. The criteria for this prestigious designation are based on high student performance on state tests and overall academic progress.

Westhampton Beach High School was recently ranked 407th out of 1,900 high schools nationally in a report put out by the Washington Post.

The report also ranked the district, 51st ...more
By pstevens (406), Wilmington on Oct 8, 13 6:07 PM
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By Observannt (4), southampton on Oct 9, 13 8:22 AM
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By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Oct 9, 13 8:48 AM
The reason Westhampton does better than Southampton is Demographics. Southampton is full of kids where English is their second language and West Hampton isn't. Those are the facts plain and simple.
By chief1 (2800), southampton on Oct 9, 13 7:43 AM
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Nonsense, Chief. WHB has an extremely diverse school and many of those students who came from Tuckahoe, for whom English was their second language, our flourishing - top of their class honor students.

By the time a majority of Spanish speaking kids reach high school they are fluent English speakers. Demographics is not the issue, the issue is that SHHS has overspent, under-educated and failed because their priorities were expanding the size of the school even though they do not have enough ...more
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Oct 9, 13 8:51 AM
Oh please you people blame everyone else as to why your kids don't excel in school. There is no choice in public education. You go to the high school closest to your district period. If you can suddenly pick schools than the govt should subsidize Catholic and privste schools. The liberals don't want choice except for baby murdering, and same sex marriages. If the liberals had education choices people would send their kids to private schools where the nonsense of political correctness doesn't exist.
By chief1 (2800), southampton on Oct 9, 13 9:16 AM
Hey, Chief, please point out where progressnow blamed anyone for her kids not doing well in school. It is you blaming demographics. Then, of course, you have to show what a total lunatic you are by bringing abortion and sexuality into the discussion. You are clearly a person incapable of critical thinking on the issue at hand.
By dagdavid (646), southampton on Oct 9, 13 9:36 AM
A lot of parents in the Southampton School District do send their kids to private schools. Listen, Southampton Public School has been a legend in its own mind for years...long before the change in demographic that you speak of chief.
By pstevens (406), Wilmington on Oct 9, 13 11:48 AM
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Anyone that doesn't think demographics effects a schools performance knows nothing about education.
By chief1 (2800), southampton on Oct 10, 13 7:55 AM
40 years of consistent class sized yet they spent millions of SH and Tuckahoe taxpayer dollars on expanding the school?

Remember this, Tuckahoe tax dollars have flowed to SHHS in the form of exhorbitant tuition fees. How many SH tax dollars has Tuckahoe received?
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Oct 11, 13 10:43 AM
Westhampton is 82% white. State Average is 48%. NOT diverse.
Great Schools rating: Westhampton 7, Southampton 6 Not a huge difference.
No doubt Westhampton is a better school academically, but is the difference substantial enough that we would want to send all our kids out of town?
By lamm (304), Southampton on Oct 9, 13 6:29 PM
As of the 2011-12 school year Westhampton HS was 82% white & Southampton HS was 61% white. The future will be different when you look at the elementary schools. As of 2011-12, Westhampton was 69% white, Southampton 53% white, Tuckahoe 42% white. The percentages are dropping and will be lower as the demographics are updated.
By East End 2 (151), Southampton on Oct 10, 13 11:12 PM
So expect lower grades, and more pressure on budgets.
By chief1 (2800), southampton on Oct 11, 13 10:45 PM
We are ONE community. We are the doctors and nurses, teachers and custodians, dentists and plumbers, electricians and lawyers, landscape artists and landscapers, tile and brick layers, administrators and local business owners, bankers and tellers, stay at home parents and traveling sales men and women etc., etc., etc., who ALL care and contribute to this town we ALL call OUR collective home. We are Southampton and if we want a better educational institution for our children than we should all come ...more
By photo friend (31), southampton on Oct 9, 13 8:19 PM
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As was mentioned above: Why wasn't Hampton Bays the other option for Tuckahoe high school age students? Lower transportation cost for starters and the HB district boundary abuts Tuckahoe.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Oct 12, 13 8:29 AM
Are you serious? Name one person you know that looks good in purple.

Here's a novel idea, why don't the 3 of you who each have 4 different log on names stifle it already and just go vote. 27east is contributing to the explosion of carpal tunnel diagnoses on the east end by continuing to post articles about this issue.
By ObservHazelProgressLocalWitch (1), Good Ground on Oct 12, 13 9:07 AM
Look who's complaing about multiple pseudonyms - one who has (1) beside her name. Precious Yahoo.

Southampton Press will continue articles on this issue because education is OBVIOUSLY of intense interest in the Community and affects the future of their children and their greatest investment - the value of their homes.

I understand the people behind this catastrophe would like this issue to go away. But let's remember - "The evil that men do lives after them. The good.......".

You ...more
By Obbservant (449), southampton on Oct 12, 13 7:16 PM
Dear Obbservant, Enough with the name calling, we, the Tuckahoe parents ARE NOT yahoos as you so frequently like to call us. We are hard working community members who support our town, volunteer in our schools, coach and cheer on our teams, and take our children to art and music lessons. We are Brownie leaders, Den mothers, scout masters and religion teachers. We spend hours helping our kids with homework and support every effort that has been made over the years to correct and enhance our children's ...more
By photo friend (31), southampton on Oct 12, 13 8:51 PM
With a parent like you, your kids do not stand a chance. Methinks you have nowhere to blame for the failures of your evil spawn that that foreign face that stares right back at you in the mirror. Your solitary confinement has warped your thought process to the point that you actually believe the hysterics you puke up. Kabot is going to lose and Barristers has closed. Sounds like the pillars of your small world are crumbling and once again, the prospect of losing your battle is beginning to seem ...more
By ObservantProgressDagNowHazel (1), southampton on Oct 13, 13 7:40 AM
Someone actually got booted from this site?
By dnice (2346), Hampton Bays on Oct 13, 13 8:14 AM
It's IP address.

Most everyone will probably have a similar ISP. Either Optimum, or Verizon.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Oct 13, 13 10:10 AM
Preliator must have gone full retard because getting the boot is hard to do. Unprecedented in my short time here.
By dnice (2346), Hampton Bays on Oct 13, 13 4:53 PM
That is a good, intelligent post. Just wished the school board were more like you so a table could be set to talk intelligently through the problems which are eminently solvable and could lead to great education. The community needs more people like you.

Unfortunately, with this Board, it's either "our way or the highway" and Tuckahoe gets the kind of reputation on the East End that was clearly in evidence with the Southampton parents at their meeting.
By Obbservant (449), southampton on Oct 14, 13 9:14 PM
Big fresh, when Westhampton was being explored again around 2006, HB did not offer it as a possibility. They did not have their new expanded buildings and did not have room to offer to tuition students. Parents at the time did not request it either as they were searching for the better performing school district academically.
By Shinnecock Hills family (59), Southampton on Oct 12, 13 10:34 AM