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Apr 13, 2011 9:10 AMPublication: The Southampton Press

Southampton Town Code Enforcement Targets Flanders Home

Apr 13, 2011 9:10 AM

The owners of an 860-square-foot home in Flanders were slapped with dozens of code violations on Friday after Southampton Town officials said more than eight times as many people were living crammed into the cockroach-infested house than were legally permitted.

Investigators said they found 17 people—most of whom were not related to one another—packed into the single-story house, many in illegal basement bedrooms, surrounded by exposed electrical wiring, cockroaches and sleeping near two 100-pound propane tanks. Such tanks are not allowed to be stored inside, town spokesman Ryan Horn said, in part because of the gas’s volatility. “That’s a major life safety issue,” Councilman Chris Nuzzi said in the statement.

State and town codes permit only two persons to live in the two-bedroom Cypress Avenue residence, and only on the main floor, Mr. Horn said.

Members of the town’s Investigations and Enforcement Unit and Town Police executed a search warrant at the home at about 6 a.m. on Friday following an investigation sparked by citizens’ complaints, according to Mr. Horn.

Chief Town Investigator David Betts said in the statement that there was a “complete conversion of the basement,” including bedrooms constructed without building or electrical permits or prior inspection.

The house also lacked required smoke and carbon monoxide detectors, the basement ceiling height was below the minimum standard for the state building code, and there were no emergency escape windows, the statement read. In addition, extension cords were used as permanent wiring, the electrical panel was missing circuit breakers, and light fixtures hung from their boxes with exposed wiring.

The listed owner of the home, NY State Realty Associates Inc. of Sound Beach, faces 55 violations of town and state code, including overcrowding, infestation, hazardous electrical conditions, building without a permit, storage of propane gas tanks within the residence and changing from a single-family to a multi-family use. The company faces additional charges of having lacking a rental permit, smoke detectors—the sole detector was inoperable, officials said—carbon monoxide detectors and emergency escape windows in the basement bedrooms.

According to town records, the house has 860 square feet of living space and the property is assessed at $208,200.

“Conditions like these are common with an absentee landlord,” Councilwoman Bridget Fleming, the Town Board’s liaison to the code enforcement office, is quoted as saying in the statement. “This inspection, and the new positions we’ve created in code enforcement, demonstrate our renewed commitment to eradicating these hazardous situations.”

Mr. Horn said investigators also executed a search warrant at a home on County Road 39 in Southampton on Friday. Details of that case will be forthcoming, he said, adding that it involves State Department of Environmental Conservation violations.

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This is just so deplorable, on so many levels, it's simply staggering. The causes for it, run too deep, and are more than I can post right now.


And then some...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Apr 11, 11 6:59 PM
Fine the owner, then condemn the house, take it from the owner...fix it up and resell it as affordable housing
By itsamazing (224), Southampton on Apr 11, 11 8:09 PM
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How about we just fine the owner. We do not need to engage in social justice. " take it over" ? What law would you use to accomplish that ?
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Apr 11, 11 9:08 PM
It's called condemnation which is a fairly common tool used by large municipalities - the Town recently used it against two eye-sore homes along the Beach in Hampton Bays. The Town could also try to buy it from the landlord at fair market value and if he refused they could take it under eminent domain provided it's used for public use (affordable housing would qualify). If the Town has it assessed for $208k it's not a bad way for the Town to spend that much money.

Fining the owner accomplishes ...more
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Apr 11, 11 10:17 PM
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They claim not to have money for leaf pick-up. Now you want them to go around buying real estate. Please don't give them something else to mismanage.
By V.Tomanoku (790), southampton on Apr 12, 11 3:02 PM
The funds would come from grants (federal, or county most likely). Think before you post please - do you really believe I don't know what I'm talking about?

Besides, once the land was taken by the Town it would be turned over to a not-for-profit to actually build the house and sell it - the Town just acts as the middle man because they have the power. It's a rather common thing and the County recently (in the past few years anyway) gave the Town about a dozen 72-H properties (parcels ...more
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Apr 13, 11 10:39 AM
The End will speak for itself. Watch and see what the Judges do, that's the real answer, as to if we're getting anywhere. The judges need to have report cards, so we can judge them on their performance. I say the judges should put a injuction or something not allowing them to rent it again for 6 months. Fines are passed on to the renters, cost of doing business, thats dumb. I'll bet the charges will be reduced down (I have been watching). Our Justice Courts are revolving doors, ask the SH Press ...more
By The Crow's Nest (65), Red Creek on Apr 11, 11 9:49 PM
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Eminent Domain is another tool that the government abuses for their own purposes. Listen to your angry mob mentality. Just take away his property and give it to Someone else who has less then he does. This man still has Property Rights.I grant he is scum and should be fined and maybe even jailed. But who are you to take his property away for the benefit of the collective and what you deem justified.
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Apr 12, 11 12:37 AM
I should know better than to engage in a conversation with someone who has 'Trump 2012' as there avatar (wether it's in jest or not) but. . .

You say: "Eminent Domain is another tool that the government abuses for their own purposes"

That's a might broad stroke of the brush. . . when was the last time the Town used eminent domain? How about the County? If you can't tell me when it was, then it sounds like it's not being abused by "the goverment" all that often.

The state ...more
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Apr 12, 11 9:26 AM
It would say Chris Christie 2012 but he has yet to make a decision
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Apr 12, 11 4:14 PM
HMMM,17 people, mostly unrelated, living in a small house. Does that sound like the kind of situation where the occupants might be , i don't know, maybe, in the country illegally? I don't know of any other reason for such a situation. Related, sure, just a big family, unreleted, pretty suspicious.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Apr 12, 11 6:52 AM
Lets look at another side of the situation. I know people that have to rent in these situations. Most are desperate. They are at the mercy of these landlords. These landlords are charging at the minimum 500.00 a month each for these "beds". With the house in question thats 17x500.00= 8,500.00 a month! 102,000.00 a year. A lot of these landlords have multiple dwellings going at the same time. Then each person in the house is billed for a share of the utilities. But if the landlord is short cash(????) ...more
By artizt101 (29), Hampton Bays on Apr 12, 11 10:02 AM
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Most of them are illegal . And since you refuse to acknowledge that fact. (As your ilk always conveniently omits from the discussion) I will remind you that that fact makes them just as guilty of breaking the law as the landlords. $500 a month to sleep out of the rain, watch some TV and get a shower sounds like a good deal. And It sounds much better and safer then the woods. What would you expect for that price the Waldorf
By They call me (2826), southampton on Apr 12, 11 7:45 PM
By Bill in Riverhead (190), Riverhead on Apr 12, 11 11:40 AM
Bill - you need to use the NYS Dept. of State Division of Corporations website.

NY State Realty Associates, Inc.
Chairman or Chief Executive Officer

Mr. Giampietro incorporated his business in Nassau County in 1995 and (he himelf) owns at least 3 residences in Brookhaven Town all of which have Rental Permits (2 in Bellport, 1 in Patchogue). It's interesting he chose not to get one ...more
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Apr 12, 11 12:30 PM
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All these houses should have rental permits. The rental permit process was put in place years ago to combat group rentals. Call the Town of Southampton Department of Land Management if you think a house is over crowed or violating the rental laws at (631-287-5700)' ask if a rental permit is on file, if not call code enforcement at 631-702-2928 and ask for a complaint form to start the process of getting the landlord to obtain a valid rental permit. These forms can be downloaded from th town WEB ...more
By Ernie (88), Hampton Bays on Apr 12, 11 3:41 PM
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By Nature - You Rock !! Nice Work !! Thanks for the info !
By oil heat best (5), east quogue on Apr 13, 11 10:09 AM
Ernie, You should be in charge of code enforcement !! Nice work also !!
By oil heat best (5), east quogue on Apr 13, 11 10:11 AM
Yes Ernie since Gallup: says Obama’s Approval Drops Below 50 Percent Among Poorest Americans; No Longer Enjoys Majority Approval In Any Income Class maybe you could run for office
By They call me (2826), southampton on Apr 13, 11 10:09 PM
Maybe we could just pick them up at 7 11 and the problem would really go away. You want to pretend we dont have an illegal envasion problem. All you people seem to care about is how much $ the landlord is making. lets address the real problem. how about researching and pointing out imagration laws Ernie
By They call me (2826), southampton on Apr 13, 11 10:12 PM
The only thing more embarrassing than Bachmann is someone who would admit to supporting her! They call me . . . bagger
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Apr 17, 11 4:15 PM
Oh look, it's LaRazza.

Still supporting illegal immigration and all the harm it causes this counrtry I see. If it's bad for America, you're always right there to cheer it on, eh, traitor?
By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Apr 17, 11 4:59 PM

(Unlike razza, I'm not a freeloader limited to 2 comments, so I can spare one for a typo correction).
By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Apr 17, 11 5:00 PM