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Jan 11, 2011 3:41 PMPublication: The East Hampton Press

Thiele: East Hampton, Rest of Long Island, Short Changed In State After-School Grants

Jan 11, 2011 3:41 PM

Long Island educational programs lost out an a broad scale in state grant awards this year, in what East End officials are calling an unfair process of selecting which programs received funding.

State Assemblyman Fred W. Thiele Jr. this week called for the awards to be re-bid.

Just one program on all of Long Island, an after-school program in the Baldwin School District, received funding from the $24.3 million New York State Extended Day Program. The program received a grant of for $108,000. Among the dozens of programs on Long Island that lost out on the funding opportunity was East Hampton’s Project Most, an after-school homework supervision program.

“The awards by [the State Education Department] reflect a grave injustice to the school children of Long Island,” Mr. Thiele said in a statement on Friday. “There can be no objective criteria that could be applied to justify why Long would receive less than half of 1-percent of the funding in this program. Further, the way East Hampton’s application was scored raises questions as to the objectivity of the review.”

The lawmaker has joined with other members of the State Assembly Long Island delegation in writing to the State Commissioner of Education David M. Steiner to protest the recent award process. Mr. Thiele is calling for all the awards to be re-bid to more appropriately reflect statewide needs.

The state received 431 applications for the three-year grants. Just 102 were funded, only one on Long Island. In 2009 Long Island received more than $2.2 million worth of grants from the program.

Bids for the awards were given according to a scoring system applied to each grant application by a two education department officials who reviewed the applications. Mr. Thiele said that while East Hampton’s application received a very high score from one official, it received a much lower score from the second, dragging it’s average below the grant award threshold.

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Time for Nassau and Suffolk to succeed from the criminal enterprise called Albany.
For real, too much going up not enough coming back. I had the pleasure of a $1700 increase in my taxes this year due to Albany's cut backs and the school districts inability to do the same with less. Everyone has been cutting back and feeling the pinch while those on the tax payer nipple continue to hold their greedy hands out. Time for the eastend to rewrite the administrative structure of our school districts. ...more
By ICE (1214), Southampton on Jan 8, 11 11:19 PM
Why is every article nothing more than an excuse for a teaparty rant from you, ice?
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Jan 10, 11 10:18 AM
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Teaparty rant? Can you actually read? If so, than maybe it is just the comprehension that escapes you? I voted for Bishop, now tell me how this is in line with Teaparty politics?
Wanting to streamline the bloated rants of school administrations is far from a Teaparty principle, more like an equitable and sensible desire. This is more keystrokes than your moronic comment deserved.
Jan 10, 11 4:05 PM appended by ICE
bloated ranks....
By ICE (1214), Southampton on Jan 10, 11 4:05 PM
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Thanks for the spellcheck! What got the congresswoman shot was faulty wiring job in the guy's head.
By ICE (1214), Southampton on Jan 9, 11 4:38 PM
Rumor is that they don't like Thiele in Albany due to his flip flop party line antics. Thiele was pushing for the grant and they probably said, really you want an answer, here is your answer Fred. It's all politics folks, sad, but Fred should realize that the Albany is a power field of politics and he is persona non grata.
By BIGjimbo12 (201), East Quogue on Jan 10, 11 8:35 AM

Phoenix Sun Times
Jared Loughner, Alleged Shooter in Gabrielle Giffords Attack, Described by Classmate as "Left-Wing Pothead"
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Jan 10, 11 12:23 PM
Left, Right.... Blah, blah, blah! You to keep fighting while both sides keep screwing the middle(class).
By ICE (1214), Southampton on Jan 10, 11 4:07 PM
Haha, wrong two.....
By ICE (1214), Southampton on Jan 10, 11 4:07 PM
We've confirmed that Parker and Loughner went to school together at Mountain View High School in Tucson and that both attended Pima Community College, so her claims of knowing Loughner seem to be legit.
Parker "tweets" that she and Loughner were in the band together and were friends until 2007 when he became "reclusive" after getting alcohol poisoning and dropping out of college.
She describes him as a "progressive liberal" and as a "political radical."
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Jan 10, 11 12:27 PM
What kind of lunacy are you talking about joe hampton. You have absolutely no decency, no sense of decorum. You use the death of these people to spew right wing bs. What does this article have to do with your nonsense? You should be banned from these boards. You need help.
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Jan 10, 11 1:26 PM
Banned from these boards? Now that is lunacy! Just because you don't agree, doesn't mean you should burn the book Fascist.
By ICE (1214), Southampton on Jan 10, 11 4:09 PM
Joe Hampton,your extreme hate for the "left" leads you to post your vile rhetoric on every single article here including this one, which has absolutely nothing to do with what happened in Arizona. Philathome was wrong to bring it up, but your attempts to tie this murder to the "left" are beyond the pale and a new low even for you.

By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Jan 10, 11 1:50 PM
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The real sad thing is that either "side" would try to connect this wackjob to the other for their own benefit and shameless promotion. To do this is a disgrace to those who were killed and cruel to their families.
By ICE (1214), Southampton on Jan 10, 11 4:13 PM
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Now, for the reason I came to post here in the first place, the article itself. Whether or not politics and personal relationships are at play here, the east end must do more to get a fair share of these important funds to our school districts.
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Jan 10, 11 1:52 PM
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anyone with a half of a brain would support returning to the gold standard
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Jan 10, 11 7:23 PM
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Totally off topic, but I agree with you on this. The FED should be abolished.
By ICE (1214), Southampton on Jan 10, 11 8:59 PM
Listen I read through 3020 blog posts before the truth came out on Sunday and 80 % of them were ready to hang this madness on the tea party. Well sorry it didn't work out for you and little paulie krugman (go read his latest piece of crap)
Climate of Hate
Published: January 9, 2011
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Jan 10, 11 7:29 PM
Prog, Let me be clear... I am not trying to tie this to the left. I just could not believe the horse shat I had to endure from the left on Sunday. The blogs, Obermann,The slimes,and even CNN who was flirting with the idea. They were absolutely salivating at the thought this was tea party motivated.
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Jan 10, 11 7:35 PM
oh and I left out NPR who officially called the congress women dead. man, did they see an opportunity or what. Ellen Weiss' resignations was not enough to clean that toilet out.
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Jan 10, 11 7:40 PM
Has anyone looked at the wacko shooter's web site rantings and images. How in the world could the New York Times and MSNBC think it could be Right Wing? How about telling the truth and admitting it was anarchistic in tone and most of it aimless ramblings of a true psychotic.He was a left wing liberal in school... he had video of burning the flag (not exactly a conservative thing) and he liked to read,The Communist Manifesto and Mein Kempf. Now, Anarchists share many belief's with far left wackos?
By 27dan (2854), Southampton on Jan 11, 11 12:40 AM
Sorry Dan, but he also liked Ayn Rand. It doesn't get any more "right wing" Republican/modern capitalist than that. Apparently, he may have trodden upon BOTH sides of the fence. Who is to say for sure?

HOWEVER, sometime, somewhere, you are correct, he crossed the line into anarchy, and there was a path that led him there. Just 'cause someone is a friend of the hooka, does not make them some "leftist hippe", but people obviously make those stereotypes. What he WAS in high school, is ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jan 11, 11 8:56 AM
The Progressives in the media and sore Losers like Pual Krugmann have hijacked this tragedy for political purposes and Phil is doing it too.... this guy was no where near the Right Wing or Conservative side.... he was over to the far far left... the wacko left.
By 27dan (2854), Southampton on Jan 11, 11 12:41 AM
the murderers voter's registration http://img171.imageshack.us/f/jllrsc.jpg/

Facts speak the loudest
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Jan 11, 11 8:25 AM
I went to your link Razza51 and you are right facts speak the loudest to bad nothing is there your a spin doctor.Once again Joe is correct he was an registered independent and more importantly a crazy person, So go sell your crap over at the New York Slimes
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Jan 11, 11 1:46 PM
"We have a unique vantage point here aboard the International Space Station," he said. "As I look out the window, I see a very beautiful planet that seems very inviting and peaceful. Unfortunately, it is not."

"These days, we are constantly reminded of the unspeakable acts of violence and damage we can inflict upon one another, not just with our actions, but also with our irresponsible words," he said. "We're better than this. We must do better."

~ Scott Kelly, brother-in-law ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jan 11, 11 8:38 AM
as long as you have folks willing to contort the truth for political gain like Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik, little paulie krugman, Ed Schultz, and 51. Peace is a dream and to let our guard down foolish.unless you want a government to control every aspect of your existence. I for one do not, I choose freedom.
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Jan 11, 11 12:54 PM
Its obviously the rights influence in this county that needs to be stoped at any cost they can not be allowed to keep talking at will. we must stop them from runing want we have acomplished. We must get President Obama re elected in his second term he will have the freedom to flourish and do what we sent him there to get done.only then will he be able to undo the Bush damage so lets make sure we give Mr Obama the chance he needs in 2012. YES WE CAN
By local 84 (353), riverhead on Jan 11, 11 1:07 PM
Democrats and the progressive media outlets are trying to politicize the violence.
they are a party that seeks to profit out of murder. the political left has openly wishes for such disaster in order to profit from it."Never waste a good crisis"
The desperate hope that the losers in November of 2010 had was that they could revitalize their political fortunes because of this unfortunate shooting of a Congresswoman in Arizona. Nobody talks about the Republican federal judge that was killed, ...more
By 27dan (2854), Southampton on Jan 11, 11 1:27 PM
The fact is politicians have been, for years, demonizing their rival political parties, and telling the public to "punish their enemies," (President Obama's words, referring to republicans.) The Right and left both are equally to blame, but the disgusting part is that not even a tragedy like this can stop the factions from pointing blame on the other, even when this event had nothing to do with either of them. Both sides will agree that this guy is a madman, so why then is it the fault of someone ...more
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Jan 11, 11 3:18 PM
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With each passing hour, we learn more about the 22-year-old suspect. And everything we learn adds to the profile of a deeply troubled young man detached from reality. There is nothing to date that suggests any partisan motivation for his crimes, whether right-wing or left. Dupnik needs to recall that he is elected to be a lawman. With each additional comment, the Democratic sheriff of Pima County is revealing his agenda as partisan, and, as such, every bit as recklessly antagonistic as the talk-show ...more
By They call me (2826), southampton on Jan 11, 11 10:35 PM
This guy was plain, stone cold, **** nuts.

My bet, is suicide by cop...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jan 12, 11 12:34 AM
Yes, it is indeed a shame that the East End lost out on this grant money!
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Jan 12, 11 6:46 AM
Face it people it was a baby-sitting arrangement paid for by the taxpayers.

Biggest joke of all, according to newsday, studen enrollment has been on the decline and out of all of the school districts in nassau and suffolk county the highest drop in student enrollment in the past 5 years is out in montauk and you know what? the highest school tax increase in the past 5 years out of all of nassau and suffolk, you guessed it montauk.

what is it they say montauk is "a small drinking ...more
By Bilge Water (131), Southampton on Jan 12, 11 7:31 AM
How about taking responsibility for your own kids after school instead of forcing the rest of us to pay for it?
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jan 12, 11 9:18 AM
Read the article - it is federal grant money - nobody asked you to pay for anything. By the way, why must you oppose everything that might have some benefit to society?
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Jan 12, 11 1:28 PM
Indoctrination, No thanks my wife stays home with the children
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Jan 13, 11 3:22 AM
you bet pal
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Jan 13, 11 12:11 PM
Razzzz: Where the hell do you think FEDERAL money comes from, hmmmm? It comes from US, THE TAXPAYERS! I oppose things that cost us money in the form of confiscatoally high taxes and provide questionable benefit.
Phil:Personal responsibility seems to be a concept that continues to elude you. It's up to the PARENTS to take responsibility for their children's care and supervision, not the taxpayers.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jan 12, 11 2:14 PM
The money has already been allocated. It has been set aside by our government to improve the quality of life of its citizens. That is what government does. You don't care about anything that does not benefit you personally - that's your choice. But many of us want to help our neighbors and their families to live a better life.

If you help a child now, it will benefit society for a long time to come.

You want to scream and yell about wasting your tax dollars? Fight to stop ...more
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Jan 12, 11 3:40 PM
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Maybe fight 15% tax rates, for millionaires, when you probably pay at least 25% ?

Maybe fight for FORENSIC AUDITS of Federal spending?

It would fill the coffers a bit, and maybe there would be no shortage of funds.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jan 12, 11 9:51 PM
RAZZZZ: By all means Help your neighbors and family, we should all do that--through charities and churches and individual works. But keep the govt, out of child care. Education is vital to the future of our nation and our teachers are some of the most important people there are, we have no disagreement there. But taxpayers hard earned $$ shouldn't be spent to babysit children when that responsibility rests with the parents.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jan 13, 11 6:39 AM
-Stagger their work hours so one of them can get the kids after school , it works for a lot of people I know.
-Hire someone to watch the kids for the few hours the parents won't be home.
-Think it through before having a family
-What did working parents do before after school programs?
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jan 13, 11 5:00 PM
No hate here Phil. I also remember when it took one parent working to make ends meet. I also remember when a guy working on the bay made more than a Town cop. My point throughout our conversation has been about personal responsibility. There's a point when one has to stand on his own two feet and deal with the realities one faces and not rely on the govt. to take care of your every need. I understand that we live in tough economic times and funds are tight for a lot of folks, however, the taxes ...more
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jan 14, 11 9:44 AM
I'm not putting a strain on anyone,Phil. Just pointing out the fact that parents are responsible for caring for their kids after school., not the taxpayers.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jan 14, 11 11:05 AM