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Apr 10, 2010 7:27 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Dart used to try to kill whale in East Hampton is still missing

Apr 10, 2010 7:27 PM

The dart that bounced off a 30-foot-long juvenile whale stranded on an East Hampton beach, intended to euthanize the animal, has not yet been recovered, according to Trevor Spradlin, a spokesman for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Association.

The East Hampton Village Police Department searched for the dart, which is approximately 2 feet long, on Main Beach on Saturday with metal detectors, Mr. Spradlin said. Despite their efforts, the dart, which was used on the whale on Thursday evening, was not found. The whale died Friday morning after it was shot at the base of the skull by a high-caliber rifle, officials said at a press conference that day.

A necropsy on the whale was completed Friday at 6 p.m., Mr. Spradlin said. Now, samples from the whale will be transported to labs across the country. Although experts believe that something was wrong with the whale, saying it wouldn’t have stranded itself otherwise, nothing unusual turned up in an initial examination of the mammal.

Mr. Spradlin did not know whether or not the police would continue their search of Main Beach tomorrow. He said anyone who comes across the dart should call 911 immediately.

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"nothing unusual turned up in an initial examination of the mammal"
EXACTLY!!!! This is what people were trying to say all this time! Baby whale was not "gravely sick" as Mr. Bowman and Co were trying to convince us.

This is just so upsetting! Why are these people allowed to do what they did?
By new scientist (68), Clearwater on Apr 10, 10 7:33 PM
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By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Apr 10, 10 8:25 PM
Watch how humpback baby whale can be REALLY rescued, Canadians are not sissies like Riverhead foundation scared of even getting closer to the whale. It also shows what public can do when no pseudo-experts blocking all attempt to help.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF1I7hJ2rBM
By new scientist (68), Clearwater on Apr 10, 10 9:44 PM
Why do you continue to spew anti-Riverhead Foundation propoganda when all of the reports made it CLEAR they had NO jurisdiction and therefore cannot be held responsible for the decisions made?
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Apr 10, 10 10:25 PM
Additionally, the youtube link you provided is an entirely different situation. There are no waves, no surf, no deep water and it's in a funnel shaped embayment which has significantly larger tidal cycles meaning when high tide arrived it would be significantly easier to push it back out to sea. This is not the same as a whale beaching itself along the shoreline of the ocean.
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Apr 10, 10 10:27 PM
Oh really? Why is Bowman on every TV station being all "expert and important" spewing nonsense he has no clue about? How on earth building contractor can determine if baby whale was debilitated? Besides, if you've read my comments I also talked a lot about Noaa and other "experts". If you are not responsible, you are not on the scene for 4 days drinking coffee, chatting and texting. You DO NOT talk to the reporters like you are in charge. This stranding was managed the worst possible way and Riverhead ...more
By new scientist (68), Clearwater on Apr 10, 10 10:32 PM
Oh I see, so it was NOT the whale's condition which resulted in that mess, but the mere inconvinient area (for sissy rescuers) where it stranded? LMAO!
By new scientist (68), Clearwater on Apr 10, 10 10:36 PM
I have no association with the Riverhead Foundation but I know what they do and and have seen the good work that has been performed by their dedicated staff (I'm not including Mr. Bowman in that group). I have taken the time to understand and learn what the Riverhead Foundation does (have never volunteered or donated money) and have visited their facilities. I have personally called the foundation about distressed seals which they promptly rescued and rehabilitated and I have seen them release ...more
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Apr 10, 10 11:02 PM
Charles Bowman should have made it clear from the start that they were not in charge instead of handing out pamphlets on the Riverhead Foundation when they arrived on scene. Talk about misleading the public in many ways...
By localwater (35), east hampton on Apr 11, 10 7:35 AM
This is a great example. Much smaller whale, different tides, yes ~ but camaraderie and community worked together. We would have just needed some (very accessible) machinery and/or perhaps two or three fishing vessel to help us.
By localwater (35), east hampton on Apr 11, 10 8:01 AM
Your precious so-called foundation erases messages of ppl who do not agree with them on their facebook page! This is just so funny! Talking about damage control! FYI, your precious foundation gets 1 mln every year in grants and donations, but they are just a nice and warm place to work at while unpaid volunteers do the majority of the dirty work. I know 10 times smaller seal/sea lion rescue center which operates on a budget 10 times less yet saving the same if not bigger number of stranded animals. ...more
By new scientist (68), Clearwater on Apr 11, 10 8:30 AM
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By AndersEn (174), Southampton on Apr 10, 10 10:13 PM
What they need to do is have a press conference, admit nothing was wrong with the young whale, admit that the wrong actions were taken ( none) and redeem themselves into promising that should this rare occurrence ever happen again on our shores that they will do everything possible to have a much better outcome. This was a case of the whale stranding in the wrong neighborhood. Perhaps if it had happened off the coast of MA or ME there would be far less red tape and misinformation given to the public ...more
By localwater (35), east hampton on Apr 11, 10 8:49 AM
This unfortunate situation is not one isolated incident. It is happennig all other the place. When simple members of the public come together to push the whale back to the water they do not receive grants nor work the press nor brag on their facebook pages. However, when "experts" show up and put the tape around it is much more different. Non-profits are in business, they have to get grants, work out publicv opinion, feel better than everybody else because they are "special" and "experts" and the ...more
By new scientist (68), Clearwater on Apr 11, 10 8:55 AM
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By AndersEn (174), Southampton on Apr 11, 10 9:36 AM
Nobody is going to answer for this. All parties involved are the same people who are dealing with endangered species aka NOAA. Riverhead Foundation gets grants from NOAA, aka Prescott Grant. If necropsy will be released it will be inconclusive and the story will be forgotten 2 weeks from now. Several months later another humpback will strand and will be dealt with the same way.

Nobody knows why whales strand, why only certain species strand, what causes strandings and whether or not they ...more
By new scientist (68), Clearwater on Apr 11, 10 10:29 AM
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There is a nice article in examiner about this "rescue"

http://www.examiner.com/x-42722-Long-Island-Classic-Movies-Examiner~y2010m4d11-Beached-humpback-whale-in-the-Hamptons-echoes-classic-New-Zealand-film?#comments
By new scientist (68), Clearwater on Apr 11, 10 1:30 PM
Here is someone's comment, repost from above article:

"Very nicely written! This is a BIG problem and unfortunately very few people are aware of what is going on in reality. The major line of thought now is how to put the whale down and NOT how we can save it. If we never try, we will never learn. If we never learn, whales continue to die on our shores with so-called "rescues" putting the tape around them and watching them suffer and shooting them in a head. The necropsy results will be ...more
By new scientist (68), Clearwater on Apr 11, 10 1:33 PM
If the necropsy finds no cause of death and no illness, then the spinal column should be preserved to determine if the whale's inability to swim back out to see was due to nerve damage to the spinal column because of the beaching and subsequent action off the waves.

The destruction of the spinal column by incineration or burial at this point would be seen, at best, as a possible cover-up, and later perhaps as destruction of evidence in a criminal proceeding.

If the whale "Montauk" ...more
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Apr 11, 10 1:33 PM
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From the above Examiner article where Christopher Garcia writes:
"...what exactly does it say about us when we consider that we allowed for it to agonize in the sands for the better part of a week all while we decided how to kill it so it wouldn't suffer? Isn't there something off the level in terms of how this whole situation unfolded? Even more sobering, what does it say to us about where we are headed in the future?"
By new scientist (68), Clearwater on Apr 11, 10 1:39 PM
New article -- dart washed out to sea?
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Apr 11, 10 2:42 PM
"9 whales are rescued and released in Fiji. Villagers got together and returned 9 whales to the sea. No NOAA, no "nonprofits", no "experts". Job is done by people who have no agenda and just wanted to help poor whales. Why are poor villagers able to do what 10 PhDs and dozens of "experts" are not?

http://www.fijitimes.com/story.aspx?id=144320"
By new scientist (68), Clearwater on Apr 12, 10 6:35 PM