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Jan 9, 2015 5:20 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Zeldin Joins Republican Majority In Voting For Keystone Pipeline

Jan 13, 2015 3:48 PM

In his first major vote as a member of Congress, U.S. Representative Lee Zeldin joined all but one of his fellow Republicans in voting on Friday afternoon in favor of constructing an addition to the Keystone XL Pipeline.

Mr. Zeldin—along with 238 Republicans and 28 Democrats—voted in favor of building a 1,179-mile pipeline to transport Canadian crude oil from the Alberta tar sands to U.S. refineries. The final vote was 266-153, with U.S. Representative Justin Amash of Michigan voting “present” and nine others casting no votes.

The bill is expected to be picked up by the Republican-controlled U.S. Senate later this month. The Senate voted 63-32 on Monday to begin debate on the bill. President Barack Obama has said he would veto the bill if it were to make through the Senate and onto his desk; neither the Senate nor the House appear to have enough votes to override a presidential veto.

A pipeline already exists linking the tar sands with oil refineries in Texas and those in the Midwest. The proposed pipeline—dubbed the Keystone XL Pipeline, actually the fourth phase of the project—would make a new, more direct connection between Alberta and Nebraska. The Gulf Coast Extension, the third phase of the project, was completed last January; it connects those facilities in the Midwest with ports in the Gulf of Mexico.

The issue has been controversial in recent years, with opponents fearing that the construction of the pipeline would harm the environment in Montana, South Dakota and Nebraska, where it is proposed to be built. Critics also point out that the oil sent through the pipeline is being shipped overseas, so the project will do little to reduce America’s dependence on foreign oil.

Supporters, meanwhile, say the impacts would be minimal, and the pipeline would allow for cheaper oil and less dependence on countries overseas while creating jobs locally, and bolstering North American oil independence.

Mr. Zeldin said in a statement Friday that President Obama has no excuse not to support the bill, as a Nebraska court ruling against the proposal was overturned earlier that day, and the president had based his opposition on that ruling.

“I support this project to create jobs, grow our economy and help secure our energy independence,” Mr. Zeldin said. “It would be a terrible mistake to veto the construction of the Keystone Pipeline that has bipartisan support throughout Congress.

“This election, Americans sent a clear message to President Obama and Congress,” he continued. “They want us to actually get things done; they are tired of the dysfunction and gridlock. Hopefully, the president can find common ground with Congress to move policies and projects like this one forward to better America.”

Mr. Zeldin also helped pass to bills aimed at amending the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare, during his first week in office. During last fall’s election, Mr. Zeldin vowed to repeal the 2010 law that overhauled the nation’s healthcare system.

In his new role as a member of the House Veterans’ Affairs Committee, Mr. Zeldin cosponsored the Hire More Heroes Act, which would allow employers who hire veterans who receive health insurance through either the Department of Defense or Veterans Affairs to exclude those workers from their total employee count. Currently, businesses with more than 50 full-time employees must be able to provide health insurance to any and all their workers.

The intent behind this bill is to incentivize businesses to hire more veterans, Jennifer DiSiena, a spokeswoman for Mr. Zeldin, said in an emailed statement. The bill passed the House unanimously.

Mr. Zeldin also voted in favor of the Save the American Workers Act, which alters a portion of the Affordable Care Act that defines a full-time employee as someone who works at least 30 hours a week. If signed into law, this act would set the standard at 40 hours per week instead. The bill passed the House by a vote of 252-172, with all but two Republicans—both of whom did not cast a vote—approving it.

Both bills have been referred to committees in the Senate.

“I am so grateful for all of the support I have received since the election,” Mr. Zeldin said in a statement about his first week in office. “I ran for Congress to be part of a positive change, to put America back on the right track, and I am dedicated to doing just that.”

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Who cares? It's a symbolic vote at best.

1. It creates a few thousand temporary jobs.
2. The oil will be sold on the world market and will not reduce US energy costs.
3. It helps perpetuate our global dependence on fossil fuels and exacerbates climate change.
4. It won't get built anyway since oil prices are too low to finance it or make it profitable. Its already dead in the water.
5. Obama will veto it even if passed, and there are not enough votes to overturn his veto.

So, ...more
By Arnold Timer (326), Sag Harbor on Jan 9, 15 5:31 PM
that is a wonderful description of him
By Erin 27 E (1258), southampton on Jan 9, 15 5:39 PM
Do you think Repubs wouldn't want it if Obama did? Not sure that holds water.
By lamm (304), Southampton on Jan 9, 15 8:47 PM
Well, you do. And you do have your talking point rehearsed, too. You are right, though. Obama is going to veto a widely popular bill and expose himself as Obstructionist-in-Chief. But we will have the last laugh when it gets inserted into a budget bill that he has to sign.
Then we can start putting people back to work again. Did it ever occur to anyone how many projects were not even put on paper because this president is a political coward and took 6 years to get where we are now?
By Duckbornandraised (184), Eastport on Jan 10, 15 4:03 AM
dto Duckbornandraised:

"US economy grows incredible 5%

US economy grows at fastest pace since 2003

Evidence is mounting that the U.S. economy is kicking into high gear.

...

To put that in perspective, it's the strongest quarter of growth since 2003."

- CNN (Dec. 23, 2014)

God bless you, President Obama.
By highhatsize (4177), East Quogue on Jan 10, 15 4:43 AM
nothing racist about uppity
By Erin 27 E (1258), southampton on Jan 10, 15 7:43 AM
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My talking points were not rehearsed, I simply stated the facts as I understand them. If you only consume one type of media (Fox News) then you will be just like the citizens of North Korea or China who only hear propaganda Try reading some newspapers that provide actual news not ideological opinions. I have read articles both for and against the pipeline, and made my own decision. It's pretty easy to understand it benefits only the Canadian Oil interests who wanted to build it. Wildly popular? ...more
By Arnold Timer (326), Sag Harbor on Jan 10, 15 12:35 PM
Nothing says uppity like arugula!
By Arnold Timer (326), Sag Harbor on Jan 10, 15 12:36 PM
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Yes nothing wrong with uppity when describing slaves. You've hit a new low.
By Mets fan (1485), Southampton on Jan 10, 15 3:30 PM
to Captn America:

Your ignorance is truly catholic. Now it is apparent that you believe that everyone who is not an extreme Right-Winger is an atheist.
By highhatsize (4177), East Quogue on Jan 10, 15 8:43 PM
Thanks Lee! We finally have a Congressman representing the best interest of the nation!!!
By bigfresh (4590), north sea on Jan 9, 15 5:42 PM
That pipeline has NO benefits for the US...Zeldin is already screwing us!
By sandydog21 (195), Southampton on Jan 9, 15 6:33 PM
No matter, the US is well on it's way to becoming non-reliant on foreign oil imports.
By dnice (2346), Hampton Bays on Jan 9, 15 7:26 PM
Bad move
By metsfan2 (159), southampton on Jan 9, 15 8:53 PM
Fantastic! Thank you Mr. Zeldin for voting to help the country with our energy needs.
By BillWillConn3 (180), Southampton on Jan 9, 15 10:04 PM
This won't help us with our energy needs.

It's a conduit for tar sands oil to be exported on the world market. It's a disaster for the Canadian environment. Bitumen is nasty, nasty stuff. It's plainly and simply just a poison fueled disaster.
Jan 10, 15 11:24 PM appended by Mr. Z
BTW: Denton, TX banned fracking. You should find that to be something quite significant...
By Mr. Z (11666), North Sea on Jan 10, 15 11:24 PM
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Romney to GOP donors: ‘I want to be president.’

Mitt Romney forcefully declared his interest in a third presidential run to a room full of powerful Republican donors Friday, disrupting the fluid 2016 GOP field as would-be rival Jeb Bush was moving swiftly to consolidate establishment support.

Romney, the 2012 Republican nominee, has been mulling another campaign for several months, but his comments Friday mark a clear step forward in his thinking

Gods Speed ...more
By 27dan (2811), Shinnecock Hills on Jan 10, 15 1:34 AM
now i know who was following me as i was running over and/or removing all zeldin signs last year.
By wmdwjr (76), east hampton on Jan 10, 15 4:26 AM
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UPDATE: Bishop Concedes Race To Zeldin

Lee Zeldin took the stage for the first time as Congressman-elect to address the raucous crowd gathered inside the Emporium in Patchogue and had a very simple message: “Victory is sweet, isn’t it?”

Zeldin Ousts Bishop With 10-Point Victory In Tuesday's Election Nov 5, 2014

By Erin 27 E (1258), southampton on Jan 10, 15 7:40 AM
"now i know who was following me as i was running over and/or removing all zeldin signs last year."

So much for Liberals believing in free speech / expression etc. Thanks for admitting to that though. Any argument that you post from here out will be taking seriously (insert sarcasm font).
By double standard (1506), Remsenburg on Jan 10, 15 3:33 PM
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Maher on Islam: "When There's This Many Bad Apples, There's Something Wrong With The Orchard"
By They call me (2790), southampton on Jan 10, 15 7:49 AM
When asked if he'd back Boehner for Speaker, Lee Zeldin said the voting is in alphabetical order and he's the second to last, so he'd know how things were going when his turn to vote came. What courage!
By Turkey Bridge (1966), Quiogue on Jan 10, 15 9:10 AM
Oh Phil, do you never tire of bringing up such lame retorts. You questioned, he answered and you spew the same old boring accusation (not once but twice, as usual).
By dnice (2346), Hampton Bays on Jan 10, 15 8:48 PM
Phil, what an ugly thing to say... does this mean we're not friends anymore? You know, Phil, if I thought you weren't my friend, I just don't think I could bear it.
By dnice (2346), Hampton Bays on Jan 10, 15 9:20 PM
Stay out of the kitchen Phil.
By dnice (2346), Hampton Bays on Jan 10, 15 9:41 PM
This comment has been removed because it is a duplicate, off-topic or contains inappropriate content.
By dnice (2346), Hampton Bays on Jan 11, 15 11:15 AM
My source for the comment about Lee Zeldin being second-to-last to vote, Cap, is my own eyes and ears. I watched and heard Zeldin say what I described when he was interviewed in the Capitol by CNN on the day before the Speaker vote.

As a Vietnam veteran, I honor the service of all veterans, and assume that all have physical courage. But physical courage and political courage are two very different things, and Lee Zeldin displayed a singular lack of political courage in this instance. ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1966), Quiogue on Jan 11, 15 2:55 PM
erin said : UPDATE: Bishop Concedes Race To Zeldin

Lee Zeldin took the stage for the first time as Congressman-elect to address the raucous crowd gathered inside the Emporium in Patchogue and had a very simple message: “Victory is sweet, isn’t it?”

Zeldin Ousts Bishop With 10-Point Victory In Tuesday's Election Nov 5, 2014

By 27dan (2811), Shinnecock Hills on Jan 10, 15 10:12 AM
Lee Zeldin is doing exactly what he was expected to do. He is a puppet of the Republican Party and he agreed to be their minion. The millions of dollars the Republicans spent on having him elected are paying off. He voted for the pipeline.
The bill will be vetoed. It is part of the game. Lee Zeldin will continue to play the role of the good little minion, until he decides he knows enough people in Washington DC, Then he will become a lobbyist. The Firs Congressional District is a stepping stone ...more
By Hampton Hillbilly (9), Hampton Bays on Jan 10, 15 10:50 AM
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And Bishop wasn't a puppet of the Democrats. No wait, he was a puppet and a crook.
By Preliator Lives (431), Obamavillie on Jan 12, 15 9:09 AM
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Sad day for the east end when this idiot won-one of his biggest supporters is none other than Teddy Cruz. Need I say more ?
By wmdwjr (76), east hampton on Jan 10, 15 1:23 PM
Oh, you said enough when you admitted to removing or running over his signs.
By dnice (2346), Hampton Bays on Jan 10, 15 2:50 PM
Tom Steyer, one of the evil 1% types that Liberals despise, made his fortune managing hedge funds, donated 74 mill to Democrats in 2014, and was a major donor to the Obama campaign, wants Keystone killed. Who will have more influence here, Steyer or Zeldin? Regardless of who it may benefit, Obama owes a favor to Mr. Steyer. This ugly tidbit is politics, and Obama has to be a good lad and do what he's told. So enjoy the dog and pony show, because the outcome is and has been set for a while.
By double standard (1506), Remsenburg on Jan 10, 15 2:11 PM
I direct this towards no one. It is a quote from an author I enjoy, Robert Chazz Chute. We all need to think about this every now and then and consider whether we have done our due diligence before stating our opinions. This may may be too much work for some...

"Stupid people often win just because they're louder, will say anything and, most important, they are certain. Stupid people adore certainty. That's the danger in being more intelligent and patient. People who allow nuance ...more
By Arnold Timer (326), Sag Harbor on Jan 10, 15 4:23 PM
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< ----- Lets try a new direction
By Undocumented Democrat (2034), southampton on Jan 10, 15 4:38 PM
to Captn America:

While it is impossible to assign credit for the economic recovery entirely to Democratic programs, they did make a significant contribution to it, as the Council of Economic Advisers, for example, has reported.

By contrast, the Republican Party, dominated by its mean, extreme Right-Wing faction, tried to sabotage every constructive recovery program.

Had the extreme Right-Wing worked cooperatively with the rest of congress, rather than obsessing on driving ...more
By highhatsize (4177), East Quogue on Jan 11, 15 2:29 AM
Amen!
By SagHarborBob (91), Life is Good on Jan 11, 15 8:58 AM
This comment has been removed because it is a duplicate, off-topic or contains inappropriate content.
By Undocumented Democrat (2034), southampton on Jan 11, 15 12:26 PM
World leaders gather in Paris to show solidarity in opposition to Islamic terrorism.
Obama is absent.
He sends Eric Holder, our top cop, who says Islam is a "race".
The US has no representation amongst the world leaders in Paris.
Obama might as well have sent Al Sharpton.
Jan 11, 15 10:37 AM appended by loading...
mendacious refusal to link 'Islam' to 'terrorism' by Obama administration is quite telling
By loading... (588), quiogue on Jan 11, 15 10:37 AM
Our Chump in Chief is a disgrace. Why did He send Eric "fast and furious" Holder instead of going Himself, or at least sending Uncle Joe ? Barak Hussein Obama cannot bring Himself to denounce ISLAMIC terrorism, why in the world not?
By bigfresh (4590), north sea on Jan 11, 15 12:49 PM
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His Muslim upbringing guides his every move and thought.

That and Valerie Jarrett.
Jan 11, 15 1:19 PM appended by loading...
I'll bet VJ took away the keys to Air Force One. And Biden would have somehow turned the whole affair into an embarrassing joke.
By loading... (588), quiogue on Jan 11, 15 1:19 PM
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I don't know what to make of it but go watch The American Muslim Brotherhood President - Barack Hussein Obama on UTube

The total sum of the move will leave you wondering what has happened to our country
Jan 11, 15 1:41 PM appended by 27dan
such amazing allegations about a sitting US president just the fact that these assertions against him are there leaves one to wonder how can this be (URGENT WARNING! IS OBAMA THE MUSLIM ANTI-CHRIST? 2014) another u tube video that left me shaking my head in disbelief
By 27dan (2811), Shinnecock Hills on Jan 11, 15 1:41 PM
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Mg Dan i just watched both of those videos and i am still shaking, wt ,Mg i realize it is edited for effect but some of those things just on there own admission are absolutely shocking

Phil i challenge you to watch them all the way through and comment on there content especially his ring that he seems to never take off, and that green outfit how is it possible the press has never dug up that picture? if that photo is real and we have all never seen it then one must ask the question? why ...more
By Erin 27 E (1258), southampton on Jan 11, 15 3:31 PM
Philly, I can give you a hundred reasons why I despise this failure of a president, and not one of them would have anything to do with race. More importantly, why are you still playing the race card after six plus years of Obama? Nobody has written a new "Book of Excuses" yet?
By double standard (1506), Remsenburg on Jan 11, 15 10:13 PM
I think the best part is you really believe that. That's why we all take you seriously, Philly. Your arguments are based on practical and rational thought.
By double standard (1506), Remsenburg on Jan 12, 15 10:39 AM
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to Captn America:

You continue to impugn the professionalism of the Council of Economic Advisers (as ever, DEVOID of ANY substance.) In fact, it is a board of twenty academic economists created by an act of Congress to provide the president with OBJECTIVE economic analysis and advice. Typically, members serve but a few years before returning to their careers in academia.

Here are but a few of its findings:

"The Recovery Act, by itself, saved or created about 6 million ...more
By highhatsize (4177), East Quogue on Jan 11, 15 3:13 PM
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HHS, hard to argue right now. Good post.
By dnice (2346), Hampton Bays on Jan 11, 15 3:38 PM
35 Keystone jobs. Time to cheer and celebrate the Zeldin and Koch Brothers Jobs Bill. WooHoo.
By citykid (11), east quogue on Jan 11, 15 9:38 PM
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Why do you hate the Koch Brothers so much? How do they effect your life?
Jan 11, 15 11:08 PM appended by 27dan
Quite a few web sites have that photo with Barack Obama’s head put on the body of a man wearing a sexually provocative green outfit. must everyone believes it to be a photo shop,but the ring is still believed by many to say There is no god but Allah'? some even say there are two different rings one more abstract than the original.just seems if you belive were theres smoke there is fire theres alot more to this guys backround, be carfule not to fall for fakes but check it out for yourselves alot of crazy stuff on utube
By 27dan (2811), Shinnecock Hills on Jan 11, 15 11:08 PM
U.S. Attorney Gen. Eric Holder was in France, but did not go to the the massive unity rally in Paris on Sunday.

The U.S. attorney general, in Paris for a terrorism summit with French President Francois Hollande, did not join world leaders such as German Chancellor Angela Merkel, British Prime Minister David Cameron, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas for the march and rally that drew 3 million people days after 12 were shot at satirical ...more
By They call me (2790), southampton on Jan 11, 15 11:25 PM
shameful
By They call me (2790), southampton on Jan 11, 15 11:26 PM
Bill Maher: We tend to forget how often it happens and we're Americans so we don't want to single out people, but when you look at that list just since 9/11. We had the Madrid bombings in '04; London in '05; Mumbai; the Kenyan mall attack; Benghazi, which was one of 20 cities that erupted when that movie the Innocence of Muslims was on the internet; ISIS; Boko Haram, who killed an entire village this week; Pakistan this year, last year, killing all those kids at school; Canada, the parliament; Australia,the ...more
Jan 12, 15 8:46 AM appended by joe hampton
It just dawned on me Phil... from my count you made over 170 comments on Sandy Hook right here on this forum but I did not see ONE!... not one comment from you last month when the Taliban school attack left 145 children killed in a siege at a school in northwest Pakistan. I rest my case
By joe hampton (3422), southampton on Jan 12, 15 8:46 AM
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Then Obama should of been to the march he has over 2 million incarcerated, and one of the worse human rights record.
Believe me the violence the Muslims have done in France is inexcusable. My question is why does this French magazine, and even society think free speech includes demeaning someone's beliefs? Why do we think free speech is making a movie about killing a countries leader? The media, and newspapers think they can print whatever they want whenever they want. Meanwhile if you write ...more
By chief1 (2783), southampton on Jan 12, 15 9:04 AM
It should be your right to print whatever you want and my right not to buy it. Believe me, I come from a place where there was little free speech and it is a very slippery slope once you give it up. The sword will cut both ways and in the end the government will have the only say. Be very careful what you are saying Chief I agree it would be nice if everyone had respect, but at what cost
By Undocumented Democrat (2034), southampton on Jan 12, 15 9:29 AM
to chief1:

Quote:

"[W]hy does this French magazine, and even society think free speech includes demeaning someone's beliefs?"
---------------------------------

Because it DOES? Limiting free speech to discourse that doesn't offend anyone is censorship.

Charlie Hebdo's pilloring of Islam may have been extreme or distasteful, but it is speech that all western countries protect because it is an immutable individual right and, if we don't, tyrants will rule us ...more
By highhatsize (4177), East Quogue on Jan 12, 15 9:46 AM
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to Captn America:

Quote:

"I will gladly post countless examples of how Stimulus fell short of its objectives ... "
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As I have suggested to you in the past, don't say, DO! We can employ your partisan ankle-biting as counterpoint to additional examples of Stimulus success from the CEA report.

Quote:

"I continue to see 1) NO response on what Obama did to specifically impact the recent economic figures ("God bless you, ...more
By highhatsize (4177), East Quogue on Jan 12, 15 4:38 AM
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Has Barak HUSSEIN Obama ever used the term ISLAMIC TERRORISM to describe any of the attacks committed in the name of Allah? I've heard Him call it workplace violence, terrorism and we have man made catastrophe plans, but why can't He just call it what it is? Is He afraid to offend the Muslim world? Or is there something more to it? How disgraceful that He didn't have someone in Paris yesterday!
By bigfresh (4590), north sea on Jan 12, 15 8:02 AM
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Everybody knows how complicated this country’s relationship with France has been, in war and in peace. Certainly there have been times when the leaders of France could have done better by us. We should have done better by them on Sunday. Only you couldn’t find us.

By joe hampton (3422), southampton on Jan 12, 15 8:27 AM
There is something fundamentally messed up with this Admin and it starts at the top. Pure conjecture, but I suspect Mr. and Mrs. Obama are bitter and angry people. Even Hillary would be an improvement, as I think she'd lead with some practical rationale, as opposed to ideology and inflated-ego driven, delusional belief that being POTUS gives you the right to create the world that you desire instead of managing the world that is.
By double standard (1506), Remsenburg on Jan 12, 15 10:16 AM
By insisting on using (and capitalizing) Mr. Obama's middle name it is clear that you find it an insulting reference to the president. So I guess Muslim sounding names offend you. You own statements reveal you for the bigot you clearly are. I may find some Christian's viewpoints offensive but I would not consider condemning their entire religion as you choose to do. Education is a wonderful thing, and btw you misspelled Barack ;),
By Arnold Timer (326), Sag Harbor on Jan 12, 15 6:05 PM
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From the NYT:

“President Obama supported France in their common struggle against terrorism,” said Claudine Ripert-Landler, Mr. Hollande’s head of communications, adding that Mr. Obama’s visit to the French Embassy in Washington on Thursday to sign a condolence book was “a rather exceptional gesture.” She added, “Mr. Obama’s attentions have been very important to Mr. Hollande.”
Jan 13, 15 12:58 AM appended by Mr. Z
"The security requirements around a presidential visit, or even a vice-presidential visit are onerous." It would have been very difficult to do so without significantly impacting the ability of common citizens to participate. We're talking about a march that came together with essentially 36 hours notice." ~ Josh Earnest
By Mr. Z (11666), North Sea on Jan 13, 15 12:58 AM
I figured when I started this friend it would be fun to watch the usual players whip themselves into frenzy, and I am not disappointed. It is clear though that the majority of conservative leaning commenters rely on juvenile name calling and personal insults about our president and other leaders to make no actual valid points. No real facts are cited to support these opinions, rather just regurgitated Fox News fallacies. At least the more liberal commenters are citing statistics that are attributable ...more
Jan 12, 15 10:39 AM appended by Arnold Timer
I started this thread, not friend...
By Arnold Timer (326), Sag Harbor on Jan 12, 15 10:39 AM
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As I stated above, the outcome is preordained. It was decided the moment Tom Steyer signed his checks to the Dem party.
By double standard (1506), Remsenburg on Jan 12, 15 11:01 AM
The same reasons being failure? Ineptitude? Ideology over positive results? Overreach? Dishonesty? Arrogance? Yes, I hate this admin for those very reasons.
What are your reasons for unwavering support?
By double standard (1506), Remsenburg on Jan 12, 15 11:31 AM
******BREAKING NEWS******

The U.S. has confirmed that the government of Cuba has released all of the 53 political prisoners that were being held unjustly. The release of these prisoners was the stipulation President Obama insisted on before talks normalizing US/Cuba diplomatic relations could begin.
By Mr. Z (11666), North Sea on Jan 12, 15 12:02 PM
its a start
Jan 12, 15 12:16 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
That was in response to citizen Zs comment
By Undocumented Democrat (2034), southampton on Jan 12, 15 12:16 PM
It you are referring to the way the POTUS seems to think he is smarter than everyone else or the way he seems embarrassed by our Constitution than yes Phil you are correct
By They call me (2790), southampton on Jan 12, 15 12:34 PM
Opinion not fact. Please provide attribution.
By Arnold Timer (326), Sag Harbor on Jan 12, 15 5:53 PM
Once again, just opinions. Please back up with real statistics. Any number of non-biased studies show we are in far better economic shape than we were 6 years ago. We have brought the majority of our troops home and started no new wars on false pretense (remember the fantasy WMDs?). Is this administration perfect? No. I am happy to admit that I am frequently disappointed in their actions. However, I am not appalled as I was with the previous administration's behavior or our current Congress' ...more
By Arnold Timer (326), Sag Harbor on Jan 12, 15 6:00 PM
"Capitalism is religion. Banks are churches. Bankers are priests. Wealth is Heaven. Poverty is Hell. Rich people are saints. Poor people are sinners. Commodities are blessings. Money is God."

~ Miguel D. Lewis
Jan 12, 15 11:42 AM appended by Mr. Z
Have you checked your Oxfam stats today?
By Mr. Z (11666), North Sea on Jan 12, 15 11:42 AM
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It's funny how three months ago when the KKK was leaving their free speech hate in Hampton Bays the free speech lovers wanted them run out of town. I thought we were guaranteed free speech?
So if the Nazi's start giving hate speech's in Agawam Park is that ok? What if the KKK wants to take out an ad in the Southampton Press is that allowed?
I understand free speech, but putting naked cartoons of a religious leader with billions of followers could be considered stupid. Did this magazine ...more
By chief1 (2783), southampton on Jan 12, 15 12:13 PM
Respectful?

Look at the way these extremists treat women, and education. They put a bullet in a little girl's head because she wanted to go to school. They massacred 132 children at another school. They murdered tribal elders via suicide bombings. They murdered police officers and trainees in the same manner. That is just a smattering of their violent behavior in Hammurabi style. They oppress and subjugate people to live by their dictatorial will.

How about they consider some ...more
By Mr. Z (11666), North Sea on Jan 12, 15 12:30 PM
bout time you said it
By 27dan (2811), Shinnecock Hills on Jan 12, 15 12:45 PM
I knew there were people that felt as though those journalists deserved to die but I would never have imagined they would live around me.
By KevinLuss (356), SH on Jan 12, 15 12:56 PM
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Chief, how about we never say, print, or film anything that may be insensitive to anyone, anywhere. We'll just kind of sit in chairs and make whale sounds.
Is that offensive to whales? Is that offensive to chairs? I'm sorry.
We'll make a new sound, and we'll all find it acceptable until one day someone makes the new sound in a manner that can be taken as insensitive. Then we'll blow stuff up, and we'll have a good darn reason to do so!!!
By double standard (1506), Remsenburg on Jan 12, 15 2:11 PM
Not an excuse in universe can explain why US failed to send to Paris a more visible rep. than Holder. MIAs BHO/Mrs BHO/Kerry/Biden
By They call me (2790), southampton on Jan 12, 15 12:30 PM
joe said : It just dawned on me Phil... from my count you made over 170 comments on Sandy Hook right here on this forum but I did not see ONE!... not one comment from you last month when the Taliban school attack left 145 children killed in a siege at a school in northwest Pakistan. I rest my case

phils reply ???

d s said : The same reasons being failure? Ineptitude? Ideology over positive results? Overreach? Dishonesty? Arrogance? Yes, I hate this admin for those very reasons. ...more
By Erin 27 E (1258), southampton on Jan 12, 15 12:38 PM
Quote of the Day:

“When I heard this, I choked on my porridge and I thought it must be April Fool’s Day. This guy is clearly a complete idiot.”

~ British PM David Cameron, referring to FoxNews "security analyst" Steven Emerson
By Mr. Z (11666), North Sea on Jan 12, 15 2:25 PM
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I really do understand free speech. I don't understand what is being accomplished by drawing a religious figure naked in a cartoon? This French magazine wanted to draw attention like a supermarket tabloid. There are 3 billion Muslims I don't think it is right to insult their religion. The way people post here you would think all Muslims are killers. We need to have tolerance for all religions. What other response would you expect from a group that holds their God at such a high regard? Violence ...more
By chief1 (2783), southampton on Jan 13, 15 1:43 AM
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I think you miss that it is the Muslims that have moved to France and are trying to change the West to conform to there extreme laws, Charlie Hebdo made fun of all religions and politicians It is a satirical magazine. Main stream Muslims and Phil need to stop making excuses for this garbage
Jan 13, 15 10:03 AM appended by They call me
We're not hearing enough from the mainstream Muslims condemning the incitement against the West. But its ok for them to talk up and publish cartoons of the evil Rabbi's with giant noses in Arab-sponsored media and call for exterminating the only true democracy in the Middle East. Its ok for Hamas with a genocidal charter calling for the annihilation and the extermination of every Jew on planet Earth . and people defending Hamas. And not saying that if you want to be seen with any kind of legitimacy you cannot have a charter calling for every Jew to be slaughtered. Muslims have to take their religion back from these monsters. It is there responsibility! You can no longer say that it's a small minority inciting the calling for a Muslim word wide Caliphate and Sharia law in the countrys they imagrate to, on the contrary, this is entering the body politic Because it's not being repudiated by the mainstream on a large scale.
By They call me (2790), southampton on Jan 13, 15 10:03 AM
Chief - you miss the point entirely. Free speech offers us the right to say, read, and even ignore. Every second someone is saying or writing something that can be taken as disrespectful to one group or another. Here's the difference, Islamic Terrorist respond with guns, bombs and beheadings. Heck, a march, boycott, or public outcry is acceptable. Killing people not so much. So the minute you allow one group to silence you, not matter how ridiculous your ideas may be, is the minute you surrender ...more
By double standard (1506), Remsenburg on Jan 13, 15 11:56 AM
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Maybe it is Charlie that attacked Islam with the pen. Maybe people need to figure out what battles we should pick. Double Standard did Charlie accomplish anything with their stupid cartoon? This isn't Martin Luther King looking for rights this is a second rate magazine looking for media attention. Big difference! Sad this board can't see the differance
By chief1 (2783), southampton on Jan 13, 15 1:22 PM
"Stupid cartoon"
Exactly! Worth killing over, Chief?
By double standard (1506), Remsenburg on Jan 13, 15 2:07 PM
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No it's not worth killing over. The world knows that this stupid cartoon would cause problems so why do it? Why are we further alienating an entire group with a stupid cartoon? Why do we like to poke bullies when we know their will be backlash. We can't say we want to be understanding to all religions, and cultures than poke them between the eyes. We need to treat people better, and not alienate them.
By chief1 (2783), southampton on Jan 14, 15 10:07 AM
because censorship is a slippery slope, cant you see that
By Undocumented Democrat (2034), southampton on Jan 14, 15 1:25 PM
Chief, so religion is a no go zone? All religions or just Islam?
That just might work. They'll stop cutting heads off, abusing the heck out of women, and call for a group hug with Jews, Catholics and the rest of the infidels.
By double standard (1506), Remsenburg on Jan 14, 15 6:34 PM
to Captn America:

The NY Post article that you plagiarized concluded that the Stimulus didn't work as well as intended (What does?), not that it didn't work. One of its criticisms was that the program wasn't big enough, for which failing I direct your attention, again, to the Republican defeat of the American Jobs Act of 2011. Regarding that legislation, it must be remembered that a majority of the Senate voted for it but EVERY SINGLE REPUBLICAN voted against it in their zeal to thwart ...more
By highhatsize (4177), East Quogue on Jan 13, 15 3:44 AM
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Who wrote this?
By Arnold Timer (326), Sag Harbor on Jan 13, 15 6:58 PM
Hey Cap'n,
Do you not understand that copying an pasting other's words without attribution is plagiarism. You simply pass off other's words as your own. In some cases this is an actionable offense.

Please don't try to appear smarter than you are by stealing other's words and claiming them as your own!
By Arnold Timer (326), Sag Harbor on Jan 13, 15 7:06 PM
Stealing Rushbo's comments may be plagiarism but it's also wallowing in a pigsty of ideology. Limbaugh is a joke; he's become a parody of himself in the last 10 years. An addict who condemns other addicts.
By Arnold Timer (326), Sag Harbor on Jan 13, 15 8:47 PM
Emilie Parker rest in peace
By They call me (2790), southampton on Jan 13, 15 9:07 PM
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By highhatsize (4177), East Quogue on Jan 14, 15 7:34 AM
Where in the Constitution does it give the Federal Government the responsibility to create jobs HH? Every single Republican voted against the American Jobs Act of 2011, thank God, big government is the problem , not the solution.
By bigfresh (4590), north sea on Jan 13, 15 10:45 AM
Amen to that
By Undocumented Democrat (2034), southampton on Jan 13, 15 11:07 AM
to bigfresh & joe hampton & loading... & 27dan & Captn America & Undocumented Democrat & They call me & Erin 27 E:

You needn't have bothered. Once the answer to the Right-Wing litmus test question, "What good will this do for ME?" was answered, your objections were assumed. You all HAD jobs, right?
By highhatsize (4177), East Quogue on Jan 14, 15 5:18 AM
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Providing for the common defense is specified, financing a "jobs bill" that pays back unions for their undying loyalty to Barak with taxpayers' (our) money is not. Nice try, but no dice .
By bigfresh (4590), north sea on Jan 13, 15 7:03 PM
Since when do the liberals give a hoot about the Constitution Phil? Your boy Barry has used it as toilet paper on more than one occasion. As to your pitiful attempt at a rebuttal, weak , ignorant and childish." Provide for the common defense" obviously includes paying those involved. A separate "Jobs Bill" is way beyond the scope of what's specified.
By bigfresh (4590), north sea on Jan 14, 15 7:33 AM
Much like other self styled "conservatives", you confuse freedom and anarchy.

"The forefathers of the United States were children of religious bigotry and persecution, and, as a result, fled Britain to create a new approach to life and government. They valued intellect and education. In fact, they outlined the principles of the United States' democracy to establish intellectual freedom from the Church."
~Mike Medavoy

"Freedom is not worth fighting for if it means no more than ...more
Jan 15, 15 11:37 PM appended by Mr. Z
Y'know, it really appears that you don't realize how the life you have isn't built on freedom. The life you have come to know has been built on freedom's excesses.
By Mr. Z (11666), North Sea on Jan 14, 15 11:37 PM
Just read and artical

"Economic Death Spiral: More American Businesses Dying Than Starting"

well its no wonder thousands and thousands of pages of job KILLING regulations from obama and the progressives

Highest corporate tax rate in the world!

Obamacare !

Workers comp out of control

KING Obamas 'New Amerika" !! Pitting the takers against the makers, black against white men against women and war on anything American !
By Undocumented Democrat (2034), southampton on Jan 14, 15 10:50 AM
POLL: TROOPS TURN ON COMMANDER IN CHIEF; DEEPLY UNPOPULAR

Doesn't surprise me. BHO is a pro Muslim and Anti American! He represents everything the military is against. They are trying to protect our country from attack from Muslim terrorists and the president is releasing them from prison. He is supporting our enemies and antagonizing our allies. It actually shocks me that any individuals in the Armed Forces actually support him. Furthermore he's weakening our military and making it more ...more
By They call me (2790), southampton on Jan 14, 15 1:54 PM
to Undocumented Democrat:

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"Economic Death Spiral: More American Businesses Dying Than Starting"
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A troubling statistic, caused, as the chart accompanying the article in Breitbart indicated, by the Bush Mortgage Fraud apocalypse. When you annihilate $19.2 trillion in household wealth (Dept. of the Treasury, April 2012) , the amount of money folks have to spend on stuff other folks are trying ...more
By highhatsize (4177), East Quogue on Jan 15, 15 1:55 AM
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Cough... the mortgage apocalypse had seeds sowed during the Clinton presidency. (BTW - I voted for Clinton twice)
Clinton planted the seeds and Bush tended the garden. To claim otherwise would be patently dishonest. More, Andrew Cuomo somehow gets a free pass by liberals, but it was he who allowed Fannie and Freddie to to plow through the sub-prime field with reckless abandon. I wouldn't give my vote to Andrew Cuomo in this or any other lifetime. Who appointed Cuomo to HUD? William Jefferson ...more
By double standard (1506), Remsenburg on Jan 15, 15 7:33 AM
"Fannie and Freddie" were less than 6% of mortgages involved in the bubble. They had little, if even a negligible impact.

If there were no unregulated derivatives, no AIG selling untold billions in uncapitalized insurance, and other fiscal entities casino betting on the American Dream there would have been no crisis. The killing blow was the raising of a key interest rate more than 4% in less than two years. Do you ever get tired of spewing BS talking points with a massive amount of evidence ...more
Jan 15, 15 8:18 AM appended by Mr. Z
And just for reference, Michael Barr testified before Congress with cold, hard empirical numbers. Those numbers stipulate that 50% of subprime loans were made by mortgage service companies not subject comprehensive federal supervision, and additionally another 30% were made by affiliates of banks or thrifts which were not subject to routine supervision or examinations. It would seem a complete and total lack of supervision and enforcement was a major factor...
By Mr. Z (11666), North Sea on Jan 15, 15 8:18 AM
Talking points on who's behalf? Republicans? Strike one. The erosion of lending standards started on Clinton's watch. It continued during the Bush presidency. No debate. Cuomo's actions were reckless and ill-advised. No debate - see results.
Point being, only an idiot would look at that crisis, and many before and after, and categorically state that it's This Side or That Side. Yet in this little forum of ours we see absolutes and blind allegiances. If it stinks, it's rotten. Don't excuse either. ...more
By double standard (1506), Remsenburg on Jan 15, 15 9:09 AM
Bad subprime lending was an issue before the turn of the century. The complete and total lack of supervision was well before the Clinton presidency, and the creation of the derivatives and the lack of regulation thereof was decided by a Republican Congress led by a Democratic president who, unfortunately, believed Greenspan and his "Committee to Save the World" and hung onto every word as if it were gospel.

The only people blaming the CRA and GSEs for the crisis are the ignorant and ill-informed. ...more
By Mr. Z (11666), North Sea on Jan 15, 15 9:29 AM
And what responsibility do those who took out adjustable rate mortgages Have? How about some idiot borrowing 125% of the homes' value? How about an interest only Mortgage? Or one with a balloon payment!!!! Those are the ones at fault, they voluntarily borrowed the money. Caveat emptor!!
By bigfresh (4590), north sea on Jan 15, 15 10:56 AM
The evidence does not back your claim.

Without unregulated derivatives, there would have been no systemic crisis. There simply would have been defaults, of course some bank failures, instead of untold billions in uncapitalized insurance claims cratering the market. The financial sector is not meant to be a casino. If you want to gamble, go to Vegas. And if you do gamble, have the common decency not to do it with the "American Dream". You better beware of what you've been buying into...
By Mr. Z (11666), North Sea on Jan 16, 15 12:21 AM
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Nice one HH, a BUT BUT BUSH post at 1:55 AM, did you set your alarm to to get up to post this incredibly original bit of fluff? When does Obama own the economy? Dear Leader has been in office for 6 years, the first 2 with both houses of congress, He owns it, weren't you touting the great ,gag, unemployment numbers recently, you can't have it both ways.
By bigfresh (4590), north sea on Jan 15, 15 7:32 AM
Release: #4142-98
For Release: May 7, 1998

CFTC ISSUES CONCEPT RELEASE CONCERNING

OVER-THE-COUNTER DERIVATIVES MARKET


The Commodity Futures Trading Commission today issued a "concept release" seeking public comments to assist it in reexamining its approach to the over-the-counter (OTC) derivatives market. The release was issued as part of a comprehensive regulatory reform effort designed to update the agency's oversight of both exchange and off-exchange markets. ...more
By Mr. Z (11666), North Sea on Jan 15, 15 8:24 AM
Courtesy of Wendy Gramm:

"Since 1991 the CFTC has given secret exemptions from hedging regulations to 19 major banks and market participants, allowing them to accumulate essentially unlimited positions. These exemptions came to light only after the 2008 financial crisis had unfolded and Congress requested information on market participants. A trader or bank granted an exemption as a bona-fide hedger can affect the price of a commodity without being either its producer or consumer."
By Mr. Z (11666), North Sea on Jan 15, 15 8:28 AM
Double Sandard said :

Clinton planted the seeds and Bush tended the garden. To claim otherwise would be patently dishonest. More, Andrew Cuomo somehow gets a free pass by liberals, but it was he who allowed Fannie and Freddie to to plow through the sub-prime field with reckless abandon. I wouldn't give my vote to Andrew Cuomo in this or any other lifetime. Who appointed Cuomo to HUD? William Jefferson ...more Clinton. Dems have plenty of blood on their hands for the meltdown. By double ...more
Jan 15, 15 8:15 AM appended by Undocumented Democrat
And then MR Z commended him....... waiting for Phil and mets fan to catch up
By Undocumented Democrat (2034), southampton on Jan 15, 15 8:15 AM
Your entire post is bull****, and conclusively proves you have zero comprehension of what caused the "crisis". GSE entities governed by the CRA had a negligible impact on the mortgage bubble, end of list. No statistic backs your claims, period.
By Mr. Z (11666), North Sea on Jan 15, 15 9:19 AM
< ------ 2003 I do not want the same kind of focus on safety and soundness that we have in OCC [Office of the Comptroller of the Currency] and OTS [Office of Thrift Supervision]. I want to roll the dice a little bit more in this situation towards subsidized housing.

furteta morre I do da do du "

Brilliant. He wanted to “roll the dice” with America’s financial future. The result was that he led the charge to require Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to lower the lending ...more
By They call me (2790), southampton on Jan 15, 15 8:47 AM
Mostly bull****.

The part that isn't is the complete and total lack of supervision, and enforcement. About 50% of sub prime mortgages were issued by by mortgage service companies not subject comprehensive federal supervision, and additionally another 30% were made by affiliates of banks or thrifts which were not subject to routine supervision or examinations. None of the aforementioned entities are GSEs...
By Mr. Z (11666), North Sea on Jan 15, 15 9:02 AM
to double standard:

I simply pointed out that the "Economic Death Spiral" article (to which Undocumented Democrat referred) demonstrated that the phenomenon began dramatically with the economic collapse triggered by the Bush Mortgage Fraud apocalypse. Contrary to Undocumented Democrat's claim, that is the SOLE cause that the article identifies, NOT government regulation, corporate tax rates or Obamacare.

ALL federal legislators who were subservient to the imperatives of the financial ...more
By highhatsize (4177), East Quogue on Jan 15, 15 8:59 AM
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And my point to you, sir, is you have an uncanny knack for turning a blind eye to the short-comings of your side (Democrats) and attack the other side (Republicans) with venomous delight.
News flash - the difference between either is the fluctuating level of ineptitude and corruption. In other words, our govt is garbage, and this president adds to the pile.
By double standard (1506), Remsenburg on Jan 15, 15 9:15 AM
This is so crazy, Obama just yesterday released 5 more murdering Islamic Terrorists from Yeman to replace the 3 murdering Yemen connected Islamic Terrorist the French killed in Paris.

Obama is actually staffing Al Qaeda and the Islamic Jihad. He certainly isn't confronting it. Since he took office Al Qaeda has grown stronger than it has ever been, ISIS which didn't exist has its own army and Islamic Terror nation? How is that explainable if Obama is opposed to these Islamic murderers?

When ...more
Jan 15, 15 12:25 PM appended by They call me
When Obama stated that "the future must not belong to those who slander the prophet Mohammad," he meant every word.
By They call me (2790), southampton on Jan 15, 15 12:25 PM
What part of international law dictating we cannot hold them without evidence to prosecute?

"Right Wing" policy seems to be shooting the messenger. Or, it's just total ignorance of the law...
Jan 15, 15 11:10 PM appended by Mr. Z
What part of international law dictating we cannot hold them without evidence to prosecute do y'all not understand?
By Mr. Z (11666), North Sea on Jan 15, 15 11:10 PM
Dive: Just 37 percent approve of Obama in week marked by Paris MIA
By 27dan (2811), Shinnecock Hills on Jan 16, 15 12:49 AM
I am not a fan of trickle down economics either. Even before globalization it would be hard to prove that it was a reliable theory. It supposes that those making the $ will pass it down fairly. I think that is the exception rather than the rule. I can only use my experience as a business owner on the east end to form my opinion.
By dnice (2346), Hampton Bays on Jan 16, 15 1:07 PM
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Mr Z, radical Islam declared war on us years ago, it is insane to let the protagonists we are holding in GITMO return to jihad against us. There is a high rate of recidivism among these animals and the responsible thing to do is keep them behind bars. The international law be damned on this issue.
By bigfresh (4590), north sea on Jan 16, 15 7:15 AM
The only real solution is to Congressionally declare war on the radical element of Islam if they are to be held for an indefinite period. We can hold them as POWs for as long as the conflict endures. Though I agree that just because law is authored it does not automatically make it right or properly applicable in all cases, it is the administrators of the law who have the final say regarding it's application unless it is repealed, altered, or amended. To not abide by it can either set a dangerous ...more
By Mr. Z (11666), North Sea on Jan 16, 15 8:17 AM
to Captn America:

Quote:

"The American Jobs Act of 2011, or 'Son of Stimulus' was a bad and unpopular bill which didn't pass because Democrats were worried about (not) getting THEIRS, AKA, what would it have done for them and losing their jobs."
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Once again, you post naked, unsupported opinion. The FACT is that fifty Democrats and Independents vote FOR the bill and that it would have passed had not ...more
By highhatsize (4177), East Quogue on Jan 16, 15 8:22 AM
to Captn America:

Quote:

"Your logic is absurd and your ability to process only what fits your radical zealot agenda has now entered legendary status and proportion - congratulations!"
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ANOTHER naked, unsupported opinion. You just can't help yourself, can you? Nevertheless, thank you. Disparagement from you is ethical validation.

Meanwhile, back in the objective world of FACT:

On ...more
By highhatsize (4177), East Quogue on Jan 16, 15 1:50 PM
to Captn America:

Don't be silly. I don't hate the Right-Wing, I despise it for its profound meanness, and the Democrats may not be "golden" but they ARE so much less likely to be psychopaths.

Quote:

“So, the 2011 American Jobs Act failed to get 60 votes. Well, well. You don't like how our government is designed to work ... I'm shocked.”
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We Liberals think that the government is “designed to work” ...more
By highhatsize (4177), East Quogue on Jan 17, 15 7:23 AM
It doesn't matter why the bill failed, thank God it did! Spending our great nation deeper and deeper into debt is just wrong. Thank God Barry Soetoro will be gone relatively soon and will have to actually compromise to get anything done.
By bigfresh (4590), north sea on Jan 16, 15 3:11 PM
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By bigfresh (4590), north sea on Jan 17, 15 1:23 PM
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to Captn America:

Quote:

"You repeatedly mistake emotion for fact; a classic liberal affliction."
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Rather than mistake emotion for fact, we Liberals acknowledge its importance both as a determinant and as an outcome of legislation. In actuality, the only people who deprecate emotion (other than their own), as do you, are psychopaths and extreme Right-Wingers. It is a consequence of their complete lack ...more
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Eastwood’s Fistful Of Dollars: ‘American Sniper’ Targets Record Jan. $105.2M Four-Day Bow – Final Update
Jan 18, 15 2:12 PM appended by 27dan
Maher: Islamophobia Kills? Or Maybe It's More The AK-47s, Beheadings, And The Planes Into Buildings
By 27dan (2811), Shinnecock Hills on Jan 18, 15 2:12 PM
"Le Petit Journal" Mocks 'Fox News Clowns Barbie And Ken' For False Reports About Paris
By Mr. Z (11666), North Sea on Jan 18, 15 9:43 PM
to Captn America:

Quote:

["ONE WAY OF THINKING holds that the mental process of decision-making is (or should be) rational: a formal process based on optimizing utility.] Rational thinking and decision-making does not leave much room for emotions In fact, emotions are often considered irrational occurrences that may distort reasoning.” [However, there are presently both theories and research focusing on the IMPORTANT ROLE of emotions in decision-making ”] (emphasis ...more
By highhatsize (4177), East Quogue on Jan 19, 15 3:29 AM
you all need to take a "chill Pill". Go back and read the comments above and decide if all of you really think you are qualified to become the government? we elect people for positions and know there will always be alternative reasoning for his or her policies/votes. American way. Just very put off by a lot of the above comments. PS not a BHO fan
By xtiego (698), bridgehampton on Jan 19, 15 7:32 PM
who is
By Erin 27 E (1258), hampton bays on Jan 20, 15 7:07 PM
Reuters/Ipsos 1/10 - 1/14 1714 A Approve 37 Disapprove 55 -18
By They call me (2790), southampton on Jan 21, 15 12:40 AM
to Captn America:

Oh, no! I have fallen into your clever trap. You have led me, blindly, to an article which utterly refutes your contention that emotion is antithetical to reason. Since you planned this, I must believe that your paradoxical strategem precedes a devastating denouement yet to come of which I am STILL ignorant. Oh, woe!

Or, it could be that your belief that the article supports your own esoteric, psychopathic perspective is simply more delusional wish-fulfillment ...more
By highhatsize (4177), East Quogue on Jan 19, 15 8:04 PM
Just in case Phil missed the quote of the week !

bigfresh: you forget the LIbs don't want or need jobs. They are on the government dole. The rest of us pay their freight.

By nazznazz (77), east hampton on Jan 18, 15 4:29 PM
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By They call me (2790), southampton on Jan 20, 15 10:23 AM
to They call me:

Quote:

"Just in case Phil missed the quote of the week !

bigfresh: you forget the LIbs don't want or need jobs. They are on the government dole. The rest of us pay their freight.

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A testament to the pervasive, ignorant, psychopathic meanness of the Right-Wing.
By highhatsize (4177), East Quogue on Jan 20, 15 11:41 AM
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Phil and Mets fan agree with you Hat, SURPRISE !
By Undocumented Democrat (2034), southampton on Jan 20, 15 6:46 PM
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I got Zeldin's number when I went to one of the pre-election debates. He had a bunch of rude, ill-.mannered people who were bussed in ( I wonder if they were paid). I saw the bus. I saw the people. They booed, hissed and cat-called during the debate. Not once did Zeldin reprimand them or even ask them to keep it down. Obviously this was his agenda.
So, as far as I am concerned, we now have a low-life representing us in Congress. He will probably be used by the GOP powers that be as their water ...more
By baywoman (165), southampton on Jan 22, 15 2:23 PM
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