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Apr 5, 2019 5:14 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Democrat Perry Gershon Will Run Again In 2020, Seeking To Unseat U.S. Representative Lee Zeldin

Perry Gershon announced his intention to run again to represent the 1st Congressional District in Brookhaven on Saturday.       GREG WEHNER
Apr 9, 2019 2:00 PM

Perry Gershon, the East Hampton resident who lost a bid last fall to unseat U.S. Representative Lee Zeldin, has formally entered the race for the seat again.

Mr. Gershon on Thursday, April 4, filed to be a candidate for the Democratic Party nomination for the 1st District seat in the U.S. House of Representatives, and hopes to again be the party’s standard-bearer against Mr. Zeldin in November 2020.

“We had a great Democratic effort in the last run—the enthusiasm and the record turnout, we want to build on that and present our story better across the entire district,” Mr. Gershon said on Friday.

Mr. Gershon, a retired real estate investor, lost to Mr. Zeldin by just over 11,000 votes in November, a margin of about 4 percent of the vote total. After the election, Mr. Gershon said he was buoyed by the relatively tight margin, compared to the easy 16-percentage-point win Mr. Zeldin had logged in 2016 against the Democratic candidate, Anna Throne-Holst, amid the Trump election wave.

Mr. Gershon performed well in the East End townships, especially on the South Fork, where Democratic registration numbers give him an advantage. But to win the district, he acknowledged, he is going to have to make more of an impact in the western part of the district, including the Republican stronghold towns of Brookhaven and Smithtown, where Mr. Zeldin grew up and lives.

Mr. Gershon said he has already started attending community events in Brookhaven again.

“I will spend more time up there and will be working very hard to identify with those areas,” he said, adding, “I’m here to fight for the entirety of Eastern Long Island.”

With a second bite at the apple, Mr. Gershon said, he hopes that his visibility and awareness among voters—polls after recent elections have shown that voters in the western towns were simply unfamiliar with the South Fork-based Democratic nominees—will help him close the gap with Mr. Zeldin.

“Last time, nobody had heard of me,” he said. “This time, I’m a lot further along. And this is a district where we’ve seen Democrats like George Hochbrueckner and Otis Pike need two cycles in order to win.”

Mr. Gershon said he has heard nothing about other potential Democratic hopefuls for the challengers’ nomination. He won a five-way primary race last year, and costly primaries have put the Democratic challenger at an economic disadvantage in the last two campaigns against Mr. Zeldin.

The Republican-led tax overhaul, which lifted federal exemptions for state and local taxes and has left a heavy new tax burden on New Yorkers as a result, will be front and center in the race this year, Mr. Gershon surmised, along with environmental concerns and economic inequality.

Mr. Zeldin’s office responded by saying the 2020 re-election campaign is far from its concern at this early date.

“Right now, Congressman Zeldin’s focus, far and away, is on his job representing his constituents of [the 1st Congressional District],” a statement from a spokesperson said. “He’s committed to delivering results, and, whether it’s ensuring East End employers have the workforce they need or bolstering our communities’ maritime infrastructure, his effectiveness is indisputable.”

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The horror...
By V.Tomanoku (775), southampton on Apr 5, 19 5:51 PM
Jesus go away... him and his kids will be at all the Hamptons events again.
By bigblue84 (89), Hampton Bays on Apr 5, 19 6:37 PM
"I will spend more time up there and will be working very hard to identify with those areas," he said. "I'm here to fight for the entirely to eastern Long Island."

These quotes explain his position quite well. A true local indeed.

Where is "up there"? From where does he speak? "Those areas"? hmm.
Off to a great start Perry.

By WEK (12), southampton on Apr 5, 19 8:41 PM
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Are you familiar with the term "upisland"? A local would be...
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 6, 19 7:28 AM
Yes, of course. And I do see your point.
I think Perry's sentiments may alienate those voters not from the east end.
Regardless, Lee is working hard for our first congressional district and will gladly welcome all opponents with verve and enthusiasm when the time comes.
By WEK (12), southampton on Apr 6, 19 9:32 AM
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"upisland" never was a local term used here ever. The correct local term is "up the island". "upisland" is a term used by transplants and foreign wannabees. The term rarely goes uncorrected so the locals know who's not who. You certainly ain't one of us.
Apr 6, 19 9:34 AM appended by themarlinspike
JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU'RE AN EXPERT ON NOTHING.
By themarlinspike (430), southampton on Apr 6, 19 9:34 AM
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I hear them used interchangeably and WEK, who I was talking to, sees my point.

However I haven't been out here since the Eisenhower era like you Marlin, so it's very possible you know something I don't.
Apr 6, 19 9:48 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
I don't think I ever claimed to be an expert on anything.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 6, 19 9:48 AM
6,103 foolish comments !
By themarlinspike (430), southampton on Apr 6, 19 10:00 AM
And counting! Thanks for engaging :-)
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 6, 19 10:05 AM
Gerry Lopez,” a local is a loser who never got his s_ _ _ together enough to travel”.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 6, 19 10:45 AM
I would distinguish between a townie and a local, but you're not totally wrong.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 6, 19 11:45 AM
How malignant could one be to degrade Southampton's locals who traveled off to all the foreign wars to ensure that they & their families would have a home to return to. Now go read all the local names on all the local War Monuments and educate yourself, because no one will do that for you.
By Local Born (2), Southampton Village on Apr 6, 19 11:57 AM
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Exactly: there's a difference between someone who was born here and came back, and a person who never left.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 6, 19 12:25 PM
Exactly who are you to say ? What an absolute ingrate you two are to this fine Town & Country. There is no future for you here.
By Local Born (2), Southampton Village on Apr 6, 19 12:34 PM
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I didn't say either was better or worse, there's just a difference. Just like there's a difference between them and people who were born elsewhere then came here.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 6, 19 1:13 PM
Sorry local born, born and raised here. My father fought in ww2. I have roots here. Born in Southampton hospital, Southampton schools. Lived a lot of different spots, what’s your point?
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 6, 19 1:16 PM
At least you had that chance, to be born that is .....

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Check it out very interesting movie !
By 27dan (2753), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 6, 19 5:55 PM
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Thanks , sounds great.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 6, 19 6:50 PM
You've been well trained as a member of the left wing circular firing squad.
By themarlinspike (430), southampton on Apr 7, 19 8:33 AM
Why always on the attack, Marlin? Looks exhausting for a guy your age.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 7, 19 8:57 AM
FIRE !!!
By themarlinspike (430), southampton on Apr 7, 19 9:24 AM
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What could that possibly mean? I guess I'll have to wait until tomorrow since that's your second comment today.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 7, 19 9:47 AM
“Perry Gershon, the East Hampton resident who lost a bid last fall to unseat U.S. Representative Lee Zeldin, has formally entered the race for the seat again.”

This article starts out perpetuating a lie. Park Avenue Perry needs to admit he lives in Manhattan and stop pretending to be a “local”. The people “up there” in “those areas” saw right through him, as did true Eastenders. You can’t win on East Hampton and Sagaponack alone.

By Draggerman (924), Southampton on Apr 6, 19 7:06 AM
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His parents are doctors.
By even flow (896), East Hampton on Apr 6, 19 7:25 AM
And do annoying ads.
By Draggerman (924), Southampton on Apr 6, 19 8:05 AM
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he's a limousine liberal , an up the Island carpetbagger. Foreign: UTI is west of here.
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 6, 19 7:54 AM
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So you've never referred to going west as going upsisland?

Are you sure you're from around here?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 6, 19 8:02 AM
He referred to the East End as "up there" , completely ass backwards! As I said , a UTI carpetbagger.
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 6, 19 8:16 AM
It sounds to me like he was talking about Brookhaven and Smithtown but you're welcome to your own interpretation.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 6, 19 8:25 AM
Great news for Lees reelection... Awesome!
By Ditch Bum (840), Water Mill on Apr 6, 19 9:18 AM
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As much as I dislike Zeldin, I happen to agree with you. Gershon is as milquetoast as they come.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 6, 19 9:50 AM
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There are two kinds of trump / Zeldin followers.
Billionaires and Suckers.
Check your bank account
to see which one you are.

Perry Gershon won big here on the East End, last time.
In 2020, he will get even more votes here.

Check your Tax Return
By SpeedRacer (149), Southampton on Apr 6, 19 11:54 AM
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Ugh, don't remind me about my tax return.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 6, 19 12:27 PM
Our gross was up significantly for 2018 and thanks to President Trump's new tax plan, we owed less than 2017. My brother in Maine saw an increase in his take home pay of 3K as did his wife. A nephew in Florida saw a 2K increase, a friend in the WHB school system saw an increase in take home pay as did a land surveyor friend. Thanks President Trump.
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 7, 19 7:59 AM
Oh good, I guess your anecdotal evidence completely invalidates every other experience.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 7, 19 8:24 AM
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Trump biographer who has seen president’s taxes says Democrats need to go back 15 years: ‘Six years isn’t enough’


“Right, he turned the taxes over,” Bloomberg replied.

“So he sued me for the biography I wrote on him, because he sued me for three pages of the book that focus on how much money he had, when we got to the discovery process we got the bank records and taxes and business records,” O’Brien explained.

“I ...more
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 8, 19 8:33 PM
Donald Trump is no more required to release his tax returns than you are. There is no legal requirement for any person to release tax returns and certainly ill advised under the lack of civility Democrats promised would return if they were elected. In fact, personal tax returns are protected by law. whoever got hold of the president's 1995 return and released it to the media committed a felony and the media in publishing it without Trump's consent, broke the law as well.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 9, 19 1:12 PM
"I think that the law is clear here, Chris. If the chairman of Ways and Means asks for a return, he or she gets it. It’s that simple."

~ Mark Everson, former IRS commissioner under George W. Bush
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 12, 19 6:57 PM
Well, it didn't take long for Zeldin's Zombies to emerge.
They sound worried, and they should be.

The BLUE WAVE will surface.

PERRY GERSHON FOR CONGRESS 2020
By HamptonClassic (101), Southampton on Apr 6, 19 11:59 AM
MARKETS
70% of Wall Street thinks Trump will be reelected in 2020
PUBLISHED FRI, APR 5 2019 • 8:26 AM EDT CNBC Thomas Franck

Friday, April 05, 2019

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that 51% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Forty-seven percent (47%) disapprove.

Catch the wave... MAGA !
By joe hampton (3382), The Hamptons on Apr 6, 19 5:44 PM
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Blue wave is complete crap. Go cry some more
By bigblue84 (89), Hampton Bays on Apr 6, 19 4:34 PM
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If not for gerrymandering, the GOP would have lost the Senate too.

If the GOP ain't cheatin', they ain't winning. Just ask NC9, lol...
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 9, 19 7:52 PM
like i siad, Its like some of you are living in an alternate universe. " why isn't Trump indicted already. i don't care what the evidence says , they told us he would be in prison by now......

lol It's over people, the Muller report is over, the rest of the world has moved on! and its a wonderful time to be alive!

Are you feeling the same sickness you did when he won. It's like he won again!

MAGA!



By They call me (2732), southampton on Apr 6, 19 5:50 PM
bigblue and Whatever they call you.. you have a very short memory. Less than four months ago, Republicans had a majority in the House. After the BLUE WAVE they lost their majority. Now the House can function as the Constitution wanted it too. So keep believing in Humpty trumpty's fake news and we'll see who is laughing.

As for the next BLUE WAVE... try reading the story of Noah in the Bible. They laughed at him until that BLUE WAVE washed them away.

MAGA = MUELLER AIN"T GOING ...more
By SpeedRacer (149), Southampton on Apr 6, 19 7:48 PM
There are two categories of Trump supporters:

1) The "true believers" who accept every farcical pronouncement that issues from his baby lips.

2) The intelligent Republicans who think that he is personally contemptible but who support him, pragmatically, because he is the only vector for the expression of their conservative values.

The question in 2020 will be whether ethical Republicans can resolve their personal morality with Republican (i.e.Trump) immorality and vote ...more
By highhatsize (4117), East Quogue on Apr 6, 19 9:28 PM
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Dems are really digging to find someone to run...
By knitter (1803), Southampton on Apr 6, 19 10:51 PM
Degenerate
Like HRC ?
By Biba (555), East Hampton on Apr 6, 19 11:01 PM
@ Biba

Quote:

"Degenerate
Like HRC ?
-------------------------------

No, Biba, like Bibi Netanyahu, the racist, bigot whose theft of the Arab Golan Heights The Donald just endorsed.
By highhatsize (4117), East Quogue on Apr 6, 19 11:19 PM
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Hahahaha yea ok ...
By Biba (555), East Hampton on Apr 8, 19 6:44 PM
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dems platform: hate Trump, open borders, infanticide, kill live babies, blackface, heavy taxation and regulation, rape, protect MS-13 and other criminals, anti law enforcement, anti ICE, green new deal, overload the system, antifa, riot, burn, etc.
By P. Revere (145), hampton Bays on Apr 6, 19 11:30 PM
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P. Revere, there’s this saying,” there’s two sides to every story “. You have a tire that’s flat on one side, but you still keep saying it’s the greatest tire.keep believing or dreaming , can’t tell the difference.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 7, 19 8:03 AM
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Long live the great warrior and patriot of Israel,Bibi Netanyahu, the worlds greatest leader. Soldier, general, patriot of a great democracy and great country, ISRAEL.
By P. Revere (145), hampton Bays on Apr 6, 19 11:40 PM
Thanks but I'm going to stick with America first.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 7, 19 8:22 AM
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No. Netanyahu is racist and corrupt and the leader of an apartheid country.
By June Bug (2486), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 7, 19 9:18 PM
You don’t have to agree with him but that doesn’t make Israel an apartheid country
By Biba (555), East Hampton on Apr 8, 19 6:47 PM
No, it's disparate treatment of people based on religion that makes Israel an apartheid country.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 8, 19 6:59 PM
That is not happening in Israel. Unless it’s punishment for Arab Muslims to be members of the Knesset. Or Arab Muslims to be allowed to do whatever Jews do in Israel.
By Biba (555), East Hampton on Apr 14, 19 8:37 AM
There's certainly domination of Muslims by Jews in the context of the nation-state law which limits the right of self-determination to Jews only in Israel, that's why the Israeli high court was asked to resolve the constitutionality of that law and whether it violates Basic Laws on Human Dignity and Liberty.

Oh, right. You know better than the Israeli high court.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 14, 19 8:50 AM
Park Avenue Perry, the gift that keeps on giving. Park Avenue Perry where did your sons go to high school, Pierson ?, I think not. More likely a prep school in Manhattan. Are you going to buy the dem nomination again? You blew $2,000,000.00 last time. We all know the definition of insanity; doing the same thing over and over again even though it doesn't work. Give that money to charity and spare us your tons of signs. But you do make me laugh out loud every time II watch you debate on SEA TV. ...more
By P. Revere (145), hampton Bays on Apr 7, 19 12:34 PM
P.Reverse LEE ZELDIN is the largest recipient of money from the NRA. The blood of all those young school children, from all over the country, is on his hands.
If you are really interested in our local schools, read the Southampton Press story about the fear our kids have about being shot and or killed while they are in school. Now tell us about the virtues of the Neo-Nazi Teabagger Lee Zeldin !
By SpeedRacer (149), Southampton on Apr 7, 19 1:46 PM
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The largest recipient of money from the NRA?

Hardly!
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 9, 19 1:19 PM
Stick with the guy from Shirley, classic “up the islander “as your cohorts whine about
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 7, 19 1:19 PM
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Keerist Speedy, well done parroting the alt left talking points used against any candidate not an extreme leftist. Two thumbs up and a red star for you
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 7, 19 2:53 PM
Fred s: How can a tire be flat on only one side? A tire is inflated or it is flat, can not be flat only on one side. As usual you make no sense but that flat tire analogy wins the prize for dumbest.

By P. Revere (145), hampton Bays on Apr 7, 19 8:39 PM
You don’t get it, on the the tire or your political views. Figures
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 8, 19 5:11 AM
Zeldin is from Shirley and understands the needs of the east end. Not saying the other guy doesn't but I am unconvinced yet that he does.

By Summer Resident (242), Southampton Town, NY on Apr 8, 19 1:26 AM
Chelsea Handler Admits Trump’s Election Drove Her to Seek Psychiatric Help and Drugs

Common story and further proof that these people are unstable to begin with.
By They call me (2732), southampton on Apr 8, 19 8:09 AM
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Guess it would have been easier just to challenge Trump's birth certificate for 8 years. Heard he was born in Germany like his dad.
By harbor (401), East Hampton on Apr 8, 19 4:23 PM
Sounds like trump is losing his marbles. Is Queens in Germany?
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 8, 19 4:44 PM
The decision is really quite easy for East Enders.

Zeldin doesn't know that we exist. We never vote for him so he ignores us. If you want S-0-M-E-T-H-I-N-G to be done about critical East End problems (e.g. beach erosion, sewage pollution) you have to vote for someone who cares about your concerns. The Honorable Lee does not.

If enough of us vote for the East End instead of for Trump's Wall and Israel we can surpass the votes of the up-island (and local) true believers whose ...more
By highhatsize (4117), East Quogue on Apr 8, 19 9:11 PM
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What jumps out at me about your post is that you couldn't name one thing why anyone should vote for Zeldin's opponent.

This sentence is particularly telling: " If you want S-0-M-E-T-H-I-N-G to be done about critical East End problems (e.g. beach erosion, sewage pollution) you have to vote for someone who cares about your concerns. The Honorable Lee does not."

The natural ending to that would have been ''Perry Gershon does''. Why didn't you put that there?
By even flow (896), East Hampton on Apr 9, 19 8:12 AM
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Ah yes Israel.....
By Biba (555), East Hampton on Apr 9, 19 9:51 AM
ah yes Trump's wall...
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 9, 19 10:02 AM
Bibi has kept Israel safe
By 27dan (2753), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 9, 19 10:06 AM
Israel has all the nuclear capability it needs to keep it safe. Donald Duck could run it. It doesn't need crooks to do that.
By June Bug (2486), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 9, 19 11:01 AM
Not all of us here on the East End are transplanted limousine liberals HH and the Democrat Party in general and Gershon in particular do not represent our best interests. Liberalism is a cancer.
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 9, 19 6:09 AM
Didn’t you just post about boorish divisive comments to Mets fan? You ought to go take a big gulp of the medicine you dish out. Liberalism is a cancer? You are rich.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 9, 19 6:56 AM
This comment has been removed because it is a duplicate, off-topic or contains inappropriate content.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 9, 19 7:16 AM
Liberalism fosters dependence on the government, not self reliance or personal responsibility, True or not?
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 9, 19 8:57 AM
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I like Andrew Yang's answer to this question.

To paraphrase: your point of view relies on the belief that purpose comes from money, whereas purpose actually comes from faith and good works.

Money does not give people meaning, it just allows them to pursue that meaning by liberating them from concerns like "what am I going to feed my kids tonight?"
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 9, 19 10:02 AM
Simplistic simplemindedness. Like your 8-hour day, that your child isn't allowed to work, your paid vacation, your Medicare, your social security? You should be on your knees thanking some deity for what you enjoy thanks to liberals and liberalism.
Do you have a clue that majority government dependency belongs to the elites, that corporations own the legislators and literally write the laws that line the pockets of the rich, steal from you and me, and remove corporate responsibility ...more
By June Bug (2486), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 9, 19 11:24 AM
That is a broad generalization, that has no basis in reality.every person depends on a government at one time or another. Your hardline stance on everything is just pseudo macho bs.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 9, 19 9:24 AM
Liberalism has no basis in reality. True!
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 9, 19 10:00 AM
Interesting that Kim Foxx is now doubling down and accusing her critics of being racist.
The fact is that she and Mr Schmollette are the racist ones.
Her for giving him a free pass because he is sort of black and gay.
Him for coming up with this scheme worthy of his grade B acting ability.
By Ditch Bum (840), Water Mill on Apr 9, 19 10:02 AM
Good one Po boy, now back to your distorted arguments.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 9, 19 10:08 AM
"Sounds like trump is losing his marbles. Is Queens in Germany?

By Fred s (2231), Southampton on Apr 8, 19 4:44 PM"
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 9, 19 11:50 AM
Trump, again, falsely says his father is from Germany. Fred Trump was born in New York. USA Today, April 2.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 9, 19 11:58 AM
Po boy, trump claims his father was born the Bronx, way closer then Germany. My mistake
Apr 9, 19 11:55 AM appended by Fred s
Correction, trump claims his father was born in Germany, actually born in the Bronx.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 9, 19 11:55 AM
And Queens isn't the Bronx.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 9, 19 12:33 PM
Yes, very good. Now where's Germany and why does Trump say his father was born there?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 9, 19 12:39 PM
I'd like to know why Fred misrepresented Queens for the Bronx when there is zero tolerance for misstatements - both here and publicly.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 9, 19 12:50 PM
He acknowledged his original statement was incorrect, didn't he?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 9, 19 12:59 PM
Like a clarification?
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 9, 19 1:13 PM
Clarification would imply the initial statement was correct but unclear.

Fred actually admitted he made a mistake and offered a correction.

That should have been your response when you were called out for being wrong after asserting that 92% of asylum seekers don't show up for their hearings and that 80% of all asylum cases were denied.

Those statements were not unclear, they were wrong.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 9, 19 1:20 PM
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And making a clarification is different how?...than correcting that 92% of deportees don't show for deportation and 80% of all asylum cases are 80% not approved?

If you're looking for the "m" word to be uttered, there is a long LONG line of the self-righteous Bitter Clingers ahead of me.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 9, 19 1:35 PM
Clarification would imply the initial statement was correct but unclear.

In contrast, a correction admits an error and offers correct information.

You don't have to say "the 'm' word" you just need to stop asserting that your original comments were in-fact correct.

By the way, without parsing your new line too much, a simpler way of saying 80% of 80% is 68%.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 9, 19 1:39 PM
And the acknowledgment of "misstatement" is what exactly?

"Asserting that my original comment were in-fact correct"?

You can't be serious!?! Have we been in the same conversation?



Apr 9, 19 1:48 PM appended by Po Boy
The very nature of acknowledging misstatement negates any assertion of the correctness of the original comment. LMAO.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 9, 19 1:48 PM
Your reliance on your "intended point" was an assertion that whatever defects were present in the original statement, they didn't render it incorrect.

But it was incorrect, in both cases, right?
Apr 9, 19 1:57 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
But yes, "misstatement" is certainly as close as you got to admitting you were wrong.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 9, 19 1:57 PM
The very nature of using the term "clarification" and later "misstatement" negates any assertion of the correctness of the original comment. And by "reliance" on "intended point" you mean providing clarification, yes?

Kind of like confusing Queens and the Bronx, wouldn't you say?

Games...nothing but games.

Apr 9, 19 2:11 PM appended by Po Boy
I see you finally acknowledge the use of "misstatement." But let's face it, it's really about childishly proving "wrong" isn't it?
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 9, 19 2:11 PM
When I refer to your reliance on your "intended point" I'm specifically quoting your assertion that "the intended point was spot on" which is equivalent to me saying the sky is purple, but insisting my intended point was spot on when someone points out it's blue.

I disagree on "the very nature" of a clarification or misstatement being wholly equivalent to a correction of an incorrect statement or an admission that such a statement was wrong, but at least you're slowly coming closer to that ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 9, 19 2:19 PM
But your revisionist example isn't accurate. More accurate, if I were to say the sky is purple, but later clarify it is blue acknowledging the mistatement - while the other person continues to say I maintain it is purple when clearly, I don't because of the clarification, it seems some "personal growth" is needed elsewhere. We can only hope, but example after example correcting that misrepresentation is proving otherwise.

I was mistaken to have the belief that Leftists are interested in ...more
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 9, 19 3:53 PM
Do neither of you see that you both represent the ongoing problem and not the solution? Every single day the comment section is dominated by the two of you arguing over minutia and never once have you changed the opinion of the other on anything. What is the point of it? You both seem to care more about being heard than actually having a real dialogue.
By NorthSeaWhaler (10), southampton on Apr 9, 19 4:30 PM
I disagree, they debated for months about the mis-quoted border patrol survey. It was civil and entertaining. Now we are in for a few months of debate about a mis- quoted asylum number. Name calling , minimal, it’s relatively civil, tedious yes, but entertaining.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 9, 19 4:41 PM
@ NorthSeaWhaler

There IS no point, NorthSeaWhaler. Any more than there is a point in rooting for and declaiming the superiority of your preferred sports team.

On the other hand, your comment about there not being a "real"dialogue - - - and that we argue about "minutia" is inapt. The dialogue always focuses on WHAT IS TRUE (Pretty much the numero uno philosophical question of all time) and the minutia which we debate are the substance of that profound question. Furthermore, ...more
By highhatsize (4117), East Quogue on Apr 9, 19 5:51 PM
For the record, I’m a fan of curling.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 9, 19 5:57 PM
"mis-quoted border patrol survey." LOL...hardly..
Border Patrol agents overwhelmingly support Trump's wall in new survey. By Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Monday, April 2, 2018

It wasn't mis-quoted, but quoted exactly. Some just don't agree with the message, the source, the politics, the President....and for that you are labeled a liar., which says more about those doing the labeling than anything I may or may not write. "What is true" doesn't matter to some. Basking in minutia, ...more
Apr 9, 19 8:33 PM appended by Po Boy
Adding: Those seeking "WHAT IS TRUE" will tell you there is no crisis at the southern border. It's laughable.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 9, 19 8:33 PM
Don't bother responding with detail hat. Just remind him that whether or not you're actually wrong, "the intended point was spot on."
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 9, 19 9:19 PM
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^^^^^Case in point ^^^^^
Apr 10, 19 12:51 AM appended by Po Boy
Minutia...
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 10, 19 12:51 AM
JuneZ : my PAID VACATION? I am 10 years from being eligible for Medicare and have paid for my own medical insurance since the age of 18, and have paid into SS just as long. If I had been able to invest the SS funds instead of paying into a GOVERNMENTAL PONZI scheme I would be way ahead. I owe nothing to liberalism or liberals .Calling the “rich” and corporations fascist destroys any semblance of credibility you may have once had. I own a business and pay taxes out the wazoo , you’re ...more
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 9, 19 12:49 PM
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@ bigfresh

Sure.

And if your private investments tanked and you were destitute and sick in your dotage, what would YOU expect bigfresh?

Wait! - - - "I" know. You'd open a vein. (Falls down on the floor incapacitated by hilarity.)

True believers always think that they have EARNED benefits that have been handed them on a plate by non-true-believers who care about them (and their families) no matter how repugnant they are themselves.

It's a simplly dichotomy: ...more
By highhatsize (4117), East Quogue on Apr 9, 19 4:45 PM
So you're an entrepreneur and not a salaried worker like most Americans. How's about benefitting from safety laws regarding food, drug, cosmetic, toys, baby equipment, etc.? Or are you exceptional and immune from any hazards inherent in unregulation because you--big whoop--own a business?
As for that "governmental ponzi scheme" you hate, I'd be willing to bet-- like many entrepreneurs and unlike salaried workers--you keep two sets of books and do a little investing of your own. And ...more
By June Bug (2486), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 9, 19 5:01 PM
If
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 9, 19 8:07 PM
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By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 9, 19 8:07 PM
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By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 9, 19 8:07 PM
Best ya' got?
By June Bug (2486), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 9, 19 8:51 PM
Hmmmmm...


Why Donald Trump wants the Mueller report, and his taxes, kept secret

Unsealed court documents reveal more of Trump's long, shady history with mobster and informant Felix Sater


The bureau should have intimate knowledge of business dealings between the mobster and Trump, who, despite being cut off by every major bank except one, was flush with cash after a few years of working with Sater. The one bank that kept loaning Trump money was Deutsche Bank, ...more
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 9, 19 7:42 PM
Kompromat.
We have a Russian tool in the White House. A thug and an ignoramus
on top of it.
By June Bug (2486), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 9, 19 8:08 PM
Keep smokin what ever that dude Maddow is selling
By joe hampton (3382), The Hamptons on Apr 10, 19 7:16 AM
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Candace Owens, the communications director with Turning Point USA, said at a House Judiciary Committee hearing on Tuesday that the topic of the hearings — white nationalism — wasn’t the true issue and that the biggest scandal is the Democrat Party’s fear-mongering to “brown people” and keeping minorities “perpetual victims.”

She's fantastic.

Now watch the left-wing lynch mob go after her..... she shows up at a fraudulent white nationalism ...more
By Ditch Bum (840), Water Mill on Apr 10, 19 7:49 AM
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Kind of when middle class invested in the stock market in the twenties on margin. We all know how their retirement plans ended up. Nice Ebenezer Scrooge wannabe big fresh.
By Mets fan (1466), Southampton on Apr 9, 19 7:45 PM
The results are in regarding the Republican Tax Scam, and average American citizens are the big losers. According to the IRS, they’ve sent out about $6 billion less in refunds this past year, which is a clear indication that most citizens actually DID end up paying more in taxes. Meanwhile, the largest banks in the country got an extra $28 billion last year from the Republican tax cuts, showing us who this was really for.
Still not feeling suckered?
By June Bug (2486), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 9, 19 8:18 PM
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Two points JuneZ: First, the refunds sent out are less because under the new plan the TAXES WITHELD WERE LESS! Second, why in the world would anyone set up their taxes to give the government an INTEREST FREE LOAN ?!!!! That's just foolish financial planning.
This topic has come up at several events we have attended and not one person or couple was hit with more taxes or a higher rate. I bet you and Mets look at your refunds as a gift from the Almighty government, when in fact it's your own ...more
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 10, 19 6:32 AM
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A lot of people depend on those refunds to start their year. First half taxes, appliance purchases, etc. It's like diverting money weekly into a savings account. A lot of people LOST money paying their taxes this year.

Considering a savings account is about 2%, diverting it into somewhere you can't touch it like a CD is poor fiscal planning if you need the loot. If you took out a home equity line and didn't use it for home improvement, you lost the ability to deduct any of that interest. ...more
Apr 10, 19 8:02 PM appended by Mr. Z
Enjoy: #GOPTaxSCAMStories
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 10, 19 8:02 PM
P.S.

Trickle-Down Tax Cuts Don’t Create Jobs

By Seth Hanlon and Alexandra Thornton Posted on August 24, 2017


Trickle-down tax cuts have consistently failed to benefit working families
The past quarter century has tested the supply-side theory that top-bracket tax cuts would boost economic growth and jobs. This theory has decidedly failed.

In 1993, President Bill Clinton raised taxes on top earners from 31 percent to 39.6 percent. Conservatives predicted ...more
Apr 11, 19 3:59 AM appended by Mr. Z
#GOPisforsuckers
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 11, 19 3:59 AM
MAGA

SPRING SURGE: TRUMP APPROVAL 53% IN NEW POLL...

Tuesday, April 09, 2019

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 53% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance.

MAGA
By 27dan (2753), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 9, 19 10:49 PM
BIBI SURVIVES!
HISTORIC 5TH TERM
By joe hampton (3382), The Hamptons on Apr 10, 19 6:46 AM
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Netanyahu’s victory is certainly a setback for highhat and the New York Times.

Trump re-elected in 2020 and the Golan Heights never going back to Syria.

#Winning
By They call me (2732), southampton on Apr 10, 19 7:42 AM
2020 - we get rid of Pussy Grabber 45 AND Lyin Lee!
By allpeoplecount (64), eastport on Apr 10, 19 8:16 PM
I will keep the "party bus bar talk" pussy grabber over the for real "hair sniffer / child caresser thank you!

PRESIDENT TRUMP is going all the way to 2024 and you know its true in your bones !

MAGA !
By Undocumented Democrat (1982), southampton on Apr 10, 19 9:02 PM
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If your beef with Biden is that he made some people uncomfortable, I've got a newsflash for you about Trump.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 10, 19 10:07 PM
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The question is , why isn't Biden's unwanted touching part of the #MeToo conversations ?

Hint...He's a democrat.

Here is how a female democrat thinks in reference to unwanted touching.....

If he's a democrat it's innocent flirting and he's just affectionate...
If he's a republican it's sexual harassment/ rape
By Sturgis (603), Southampton on Apr 11, 19 10:44 AM
What a dumb comment. Of course it's part of the #metoo conversation, that's why we're even talking about it!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 11, 19 11:13 AM
No Foreign it's most certainly NOT a dumb comment !
The way the democrats are responding to Biden's disgusting behavior does not compare to the way they responded to ANY republicans similar behavior. Good grief your obtuse act is getting OLD....unless it's not an act......The fake feminists are making exceptions and lame excuses and justifications for Biden's creepy behavior...100%
By Sturgis (603), Southampton on Apr 11, 19 4:30 PM
Can you name a single instance of similar behavior by a republican that was treated differently?

Remember: Kavanaugh being accused of violent rape is not equivalent to Biden's unwanted hugs.
Apr 13, 19 4:37 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
I didn't think so.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 11, 19 4:37 PM
You thought wrong
Apr 13, 19 9:15 AM appended by Sturgis
You know Foreign my comment is really more about the hypocrisy of Democratic women You should Google it
By Sturgis (603), Southampton on Apr 13, 19 9:15 AM
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So where's your example of different treatment by Democrats of similar actions by a Republican?

If it's so prevalent it can't be so hard to conjure up a single example, right Sturgis?
Apr 13, 19 9:52 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Sturgis: Show me two similar situations being treated differently and I'll agree with you there's hypocrisy. You can't, and won't. Go google it yourself.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 13, 19 9:52 AM
Why would I ?

Hahahaha you’ll never agree with me ....
By Sturgis (603), Southampton on Apr 14, 19 8:32 AM
I certainly would agree with you about hypocrisy if you demonstrated it, but you won't in this case because you can't.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 14, 19 8:45 AM
Barack Obama’s Former White House Counsel Expects To Be Indicted on Federal Corruption Charges
Greg Craig, Barack Obama
Former President Barack Obama’s former White House counsel Greg Craig expects to be indicted on federal corruption charges over a scandal with Ukraine, his lawyers said Wednesday...... about to get real.

"Not a smidgin of corruption" ~ Barack Hussein Obama
Apr 10, 19 11:55 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
House of cards is falling. Trump is getting even and it is just starting.
By Undocumented Democrat (1982), southampton on Apr 10, 19 11:55 PM
"...most of the cases charged as a result of Mueller's investigation concerned Republicans connected to President Donald Trump, Craig is a Democrat."

Craig initially came into the crosshairs of federal prosecutors in mid-2017. He and Skadden had performed work beginning in 2012 for Ukraine's Ministry of Justice. It was a client relationship the Justice Department has said was forged with the assistance of Paul Manafort, who later became Trump's campaign chairman.

[read, "lay down ...more
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 11, 19 4:11 AM
Julian Assange Arrested by British Authorities

Been waiting for this.I'm a big fan of Mr. Assange.I believe he has documents that nail the upper levels of the Obama Administration.Hopefully, he will be extradited to the US so he can work with the Barr team to expose Obama and his administration for illegally spying on the Trump campaign in exchange for immunity.
By They call me (2732), southampton on Apr 11, 19 9:46 AM
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I'm no fan of anyone who puts our military servicemembers in harm's way, but I do hope alongside you that he is extradited quickly.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 11, 19 10:24 AM
Then you must hate Obama and Hillary for Benghazi
By Ditch Bum (840), Water Mill on Apr 11, 19 5:34 PM
Well then how about the "Panama Papers"? Not enough meat there for you?

BTW, sometimes "CLASSIFIED" means f****** classified for a damn good F****** reason. Then, sometimes that's horse****.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 11, 19 10:20 PM
Assange giving away top secret documents, he’s not a good guy.If you think bringing him to justice is going to implicate Obama, you are dreaming. He’s done more harm to our military and intelligence assets then anyone could imagine.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 11, 19 10:36 AM
Were service member placed in harm's way or the military or anyone harmed as direct result? My understanding is they were more of a log of events such as the deaths of civilians, increased Taliban attacks, and involvement by Pakistan and Iran in the insurgency - identified by the recipients as accurate based on independent reports.

Classified documents none the less, don't get me wrong, much like documents handled by the Hillary Clinton private server.


By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 11, 19 12:27 PM
I'm sure there are expert and diverging opinions on whether military service members, foreign service officers, or humanitarian aid workers were put at risk, so I won't waste either of our times hashing that one out.

Instead, I will mention that one obvious difference between Assange and Clinton is the underlying intent and mental culpability of an intentional publication of classified material in one case, and the mismanagement of the same in another.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 11, 19 1:17 PM
If you are equating Assange to Hillary Clinton, you just over the edge. There’s no comparison. You are defending him.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 11, 19 12:32 PM
Hey Fred, hows this for boogey man?

Anti-Semitic Rep. Ilhan Omar says that 9/11 was just “some people that did something”.

2,977 people died that day. To her anti American behind...it was just something.

Please spare me your response. I don’t need one.
By DiseaseDiocese (563), Riverhead on Apr 11, 19 1:51 PM
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For context, here's the full quote: "CAIR was founded after 9/11, because they recognized that some people did something and that all of us were starting to lose access to our civil liberties."

Very flippant comment. Hopefully an apology is forthcoming.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 11, 19 2:05 PM
@ Fore1gnBornHBgrown

You are mistaken. No apology is needed.

Clearly, Omar was indicating that the 911 terrorists had NOTHING TO DO with 99.99% of Muslims but that Muslim civil liberties have come under attack as a result of that atrocity.* CAIR (The Council on American–Islamic Relations) was founded specifically to repudiate Right-Wing attempts to equate ALL Muslime with murderous swine such as these. Omar wasn't deprecating or diminishing the import of this despicable ...more
By highhatsize (4117), East Quogue on Apr 11, 19 2:40 PM
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I disagree, Hat. I'm even onboard with her underlying point (that the war on terror has facilitated a war on civil liberties) but the flippant description of the horrific acts of a handful of people on 9/11 was insensitive, and could have been conveyed much better.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 11, 19 2:58 PM
Put the full quote , can’t do it right?
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 11, 19 3:53 PM
F CAIR and the camels they rode in on. Is that clear enough for you HHS
By They call me (2732), southampton on Apr 11, 19 5:38 PM
Why would you want to do that, TCM?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 11, 19 5:54 PM
CAIR the Council on American-Islamic Relations is a terrorist supporting front organization that is partially funded by terrorists, and that CAIR wishes nothing more than the implementation of Sharia Law in America.CAIR has proven links to, and was founded by, Islamic Terrorists. CAIR actively supports terrorists and terrorist-supporting groups and nations. CAIR is an organization founded by Hamas supporters which seeks to overthrow Constitutional government in the United States and replace it with ...more
By They call me (2732), southampton on Apr 12, 19 6:52 AM
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All of that aside, and the State Department's disagreement notwithstanding, that doesn't explain why you want to F them or their camels. Did one of them wink at you?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 12, 19 8:09 AM
@ They call me

EVERY statement that YOU make about CAIR is a lie* and the misguided statements of public officials that you quote reflects the effectiveness that Islamophobic propaganda has had in misleading the ignorant.

As the article referenced below makes clear, there is absolutely nothing behind these bogus accusations other than a malign effort to discredit and enfeeble the organization most active in protecting Muslim civil rights.

While the article is complete ...more
By highhatsize (4117), East Quogue on Apr 12, 19 8:17 AM
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Islamic Groups Named in Hamas Funding Case
By JOSH GERSTEIN, Staff Reporter of the Sun | June 4, 2007

Federal prosecutors have named three prominent Islamic organizations in America as participants in an alleged criminal conspiracy to support a Palestinian Arab terrorist group, Hamas.

Prosecutors applied the label of "unindicted co-conspirator" to the Council on American-Islamic Relations, the Islamic Society of North America, and the North American Islamic Trust in connection ...more
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 12, 19 9:14 AM
And what's happened since 2007?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 12, 19 9:22 AM
Yes, what happened?
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 12, 19 10:20 AM
Apparently nothing since they're still not recognized as a terror org by the State Department.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 12, 19 10:24 AM
Certainly Hamas is a terror organization.

FBI Cuts Ties With CAIR Following Terror Financing Trial
By Joseph Abrams, Fox News. Last Update December 24, 2015
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 12, 19 11:40 AM
So why is the United Arab Emirates the only official body recognizing them as such?
Apr 12, 19 11:42 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
"Published January 30, 2009. Last Update December 24, 2015." I wonder why you shared one date but not the other? LOL
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 12, 19 11:42 AM
The New York Post ran a cover story Thursday morning that depicted the September 11th attacks on the World Trade Center in New York City, saying, “Here’s your something” in response to Omar’s statement.

Omar's consistent anti-American, pro-terrorism comments & activities should have resulted in her being removed from her Congressional commitees

Omar is nobody's Progressive. She is radical Islam bent on Shariah law..........
Apr 12, 19 8:15 PM appended by 27dan
Congresswoman Ilhan Omar took her Congressional oath on a "Death to America" Quran. Not the Holy Bible. I can't wait for the Democrat Presidential Primaries. It will be all Anti-American Nazi Socialists, Sharia Muslims and real Russian Colluders
By 27dan (2753), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 12, 19 8:15 PM
More Colgate Comedy Hour.
By June Bug (2486), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 12, 19 8:54 PM
All of that aside ....typical comment from someone that makes excuses for terrorists and terrorism....
By Biba (555), East Hampton on Apr 13, 19 9:38 AM
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@ Po Boy

Quote:

"Federal prosecutors have named three prominent Islamic organizations in America as participants in an alleged criminal conspiracy to support a Palestinian Arab terrorist group, Hamas."
------------------------------------------

A case in which the Court of Appeals subsequently found that the prosecution had violated the constitutional rights of CAIR and the other named "un-indicted co-conspirators" by inferring that they were involved in the conspiracy ...more
By highhatsize (4117), East Quogue on Apr 13, 19 9:42 AM
According to CAIR ....CAIR is not a terrorist organization or affiliated with a terrorist organization .....O.K. got it !
Thanks for clearing that up HHS !



By Sturgis (603), Southampton on Apr 14, 19 8:17 AM
Also according to the State Department.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 14, 19 8:47 AM
Also according to the State Department.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 14, 19 8:47 AM
@ Sturgis

Actually, Sturgis, if you read the article, you will find that it supplies objective references supporting all its assertions (unlike the practice employed by you, They call me, 27dan, Po Boy etc. etc. [You know, the whole true believer crew.] of posting falsehoods that are either naked, or, at best, supported by references that could only be considered corroborative by the most biased and tortuous of misconstructions.)

But, as we all know, you're NOT going to read it. ...more
By highhatsize (4117), East Quogue on Apr 15, 19 8:53 AM
Oh so you DO agree with the US Government all the time ...interesting.
Apr 16, 19 10:45 AM appended by Sturgis
Blah blah blah HHS
By Sturgis (603), Southampton on Apr 16, 19 10:45 AM
When did I say that?

I agree with the US government when there's insufficient evidence to the contrary, as opposed to others who apparently only agree with the US government when they like what it has to say.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 16, 19 1:08 PM
@ Sturgis

Quote:

"Blah blah blah HHS"
--------------------------

A reasoned argument is presented. The expected "reasoned" response by a true believer is received.

Why do you bother?
By highhatsize (4117), East Quogue on Apr 16, 19 6:47 PM
I don’t think an apology is needed. Being held responsible for what a group of Saudi terrorists did?
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 11, 19 4:09 PM
It's not about holding her or anyone else responsible for what a few evil people did.

It's about her dismissive treatment of that horrific act and a failure to label it as evil.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 11, 19 4:25 PM
Is crucifixion warranted compared to being OK with trump doing business with a Muslim fundamentalist extremist, or looking the other way when Jared's Saudi BFF slices an American Muslim journalist into little pieces, or the fact that the very first foreign country trump visited as president was the HOME OF THE 9/11 ATTACKERS?
Anyone realize Ilhan is a co-sponsor of the 9/11 Victim Compensation Fund which does more for 9/11 families than the GOP who won't even support healthcare ...more
By June Bug (2486), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 11, 19 5:09 PM
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bat s h I t crazy post you just made there JUNEZ, WAY TO BE CONSISTANT
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 11, 19 5:23 PM
I know, fresh, perspective just doesn't sit well when nursing hatred feels soooo much better.
By June Bug (2486), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 11, 19 5:28 PM
It's at least a little hypocritical that Omar is a co-sponsor of the Victims Compensation Fund and some of the people criticizing her aren't, right BF?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 11, 19 5:56 PM
"I think... when one has been angry for a very long time, one gets used to it. Then it becomes comfortable, like... like old leather. Then finally; it becomes so familiar that one can't ever remember feeling any other way."

~ Jean Luc Picard (Patrick Stewart) Season 4 Episode 12 "The Wounded"
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 11, 19 10:33 PM
Thank God its not Obamas or Hillary's Congress doing the investigation on Ilhan, she would have already been given immunity.

Congresswoman Omar recently made her most vile comments yet. At a fundraiser for the Council on American Islamic Relations, she reduced the 9/11 terror attacks that killed nearly 3,000 Americans to “some people did something.”

I have news for the freshman congresswoman from Minnesota: when 3,000 Americans are murdered by radical Islamic terrorists, ...more
By 27dan (2753), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 13, 19 7:41 AM
I especially love how Omar has the absolute audacity to suggest that her words and President Bush’s words on 9/14/2001 are the same !
She’s an arrogant joke !!


By Sturgis (603), Southampton on Apr 13, 19 8:10 AM
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You just never know when Omar might blow up.
By themarlinspike (430), southampton on Apr 13, 19 9:15 AM
YouTube Hides PragerU Video of Candace Owens’ Testimony in ‘Restricted Mode’The restricted video is of Candace Owens’ powerful testimony before the House Judiciary Committee hearing on Tuesday.

Candace Owens has a powerful conservative message, so of course YT shadow bans, restricts, her video. She had socialist democrat's heads exploding in the House Judiciary Committee. She's an intelligent woman, not a disgusting, leftist, feminazi. She represents everything the ...more
Apr 11, 19 5:29 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
Google needs to be forced to divest YouTube. They have a Monopoly, and are abusing the hell out of it.
By Undocumented Democrat (1982), southampton on Apr 11, 19 5:29 PM
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liberals sure do hate intelligent black people.
By Erin 27 E (1225), hampton bays on Apr 11, 19 5:48 PM
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Hopefully Candace runs for President in the future... I would love to see her debate Kamala or lol AOC! She would destroy them with one debate. Then the remaining field.

Candace Owens for President 2028 KAG !
By joe hampton (3382), The Hamptons on Apr 11, 19 5:53 PM
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Oh yeah, we really hated President Obama.
Any other brilliant observations?
By June Bug (2486), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 11, 19 7:22 PM
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If you can't find an alternative to YouTube, then you're not looking hard enough.

If every time you share a video you link YouTube, then you're part of the problem.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 11, 19 11:41 PM
Like Obama? Conservatives loved him too? Candace Owens is a joke, juries out on her ” intelligence “
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 13, 19 8:33 AM
Now THAT'S a blatantly racist post Bitter Freddy! But of course you're excused , the alt left accepts racism spewed by their own.
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 13, 19 11:02 AM
How’s that racist? I wasn’t questioning her ethnicity, I was questioning her intelligence.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 13, 19 12:15 PM
Well Freddy its like this, anytime Barak Hussein Obama was disagreed with it was labeled racist by the alt left, you just called a black woman "a joke" , obviously a racist comment if one is to be consistent .
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 13, 19 3:19 PM
Can you be any more foolish? Grow up
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 13, 19 4:09 PM
So BF thinks that any time anyone disagrees with a person of color it's racist?

I definitely disagree.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 13, 19 5:09 PM
Freddy: do you disagree that those criticizing Barak Hussein Obama were told they did so because of racism?
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 14, 19 8:53 AM
Not who you asked, but only when those criticisms were racist.

The fact is that there are racist and non-racist ways to criticize people, how hard is that to understand?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 14, 19 9:10 AM
Birthers doubted Obama’s existence, I’m doubting her intelligence, get it? Dance all you want about it, all your doing is making yourself look foolish, which isn’t a tough job,
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 14, 19 9:21 AM
I think BF's point is that, regardless of racist or non-racist intent, attacking the intelligence of a person of color without particular evidence is a racist act, whether that person is Barrack Obama or Candace Owens.

Is that right, BF? I would agree with you if that's the case.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 14, 19 9:26 AM
Candace Owens stating that white nationalist are not a problem or on the rise is flat out wrong. There’s been an increase in white nationalist hate crimes for the last few years. The rest of her “ testimony “ was equally disingenuous. She’s a joke.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 14, 19 9:32 AM
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I would agree that she's parroting right-wing talking points, but I think she's doing it as a means of exposure in order to raise her profile.

Whether expressing that level of ignorance makes her dumb or opportunistic is a matter of opinion, but thanks for elaborating!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 14, 19 9:38 AM
Candace Owens Rocks !
Lara Logan Rocks !
By themarlinspike (430), southampton on Apr 14, 19 9:44 AM
Another matter of opinion.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 14, 19 9:48 AM
That’s only one example of her “testimony “. If they need further clarification, I’ll post it.i agree with you, she’s trying to pump up her profile, it’s a small crowd she’s appealing to, good luck.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 14, 19 10:13 AM
That’s only one example of her “testimony “. If they need further clarification, I’ll post it.i agree with you, she’s trying to pump up her profile, it’s a small crowd she’s appealing to, good luck.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 14, 19 10:13 AM
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There's a long history of non-whites saying and doing things for figures of authority in order to protect themselves or advance their own interests.

It's called "shucking and jiving" and only Candace Owens knows whether it applies to her or not.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 14, 19 10:44 AM
What a disgusting thing to say.She's a brilliant woman.Shame on you.
By Taz (679), East Quogue on Apr 14, 19 10:56 AM
What specifically do you have an issue with? My opinion that she downplays white nationalism as a means of self-preservation?

Do you only think she's brilliant because she says things you agree with, or is there more to your opinion on her intelligence?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 14, 19 11:04 AM
That’s your opinion
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 14, 19 11:12 AM
How dare you bring back so many jobs to America and drastically cut the black unemployment rate..... Orange Man Bad ! CNN
By 27dan (2753), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 12, 19 8:56 PM
You give the "Orange Man" FAR too much credit.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 13, 19 7:03 PM
He's done way better than the black man who used to have the job.
By themarlinspike (430), southampton on Apr 14, 19 9:17 AM
That's a matter of opinion, isn't it?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 14, 19 9:21 AM
Find some new talking points . Black unemployment under Obama, 12.7%, spiking to 17%, finishing at 7.8%. 4.9% difference. The orange chimpanzee, 7.8% to 6.8%, difference 1%. I keep forgetting what saps you are believing everything the child-liar-in-chief coward spews out to you.
By Mets fan (1466), Southampton on Apr 13, 19 11:53 AM
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Coattail effect.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 13, 19 10:27 PM
Candace Owens could very well become the first Madame POTUS some day, she’s brilliant !!
Her beatdown of Nadler and Lieu is proof. She made them look like the fools they are.
By Ditch Bum (840), Water Mill on Apr 13, 19 6:44 PM
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You should go watch the tape of her speaking about hitler, she’s charming. Her being invited to speak in front of congress about nationalism is rich.i stand by my former comment about her.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 13, 19 7:05 PM
Liberal politicians despise her because she's a free thinker and not an obedient minority. Lieu tried low balling her at the hate crime hearings. But she thoroughly destroyed him. I would pay good money to see Candace debate Watters or AOC I guess some people feel more comfortable stayin' on the plantation even after the chains are cut.
By Ditch Bum (840), Water Mill on Apr 14, 19 11:54 AM
And the fact remains that she was the only person at that hearing who apparently didn't think white nationalism was a problem.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 14, 19 12:00 PM
Nationalism:loyalty and devotion to a nation. Synonym:patriotism. Merriam-Webster dictionary. White nationalism is clearly something different and I challenge you to show how she "apparently didn't think white nationalism was a problem." You see what you want to see and disregard the rest. BTW, all should be ashamed of how Nadler wasn't even listening to what she said, and also heard what he wanted to hear. I am a registered democrat who is embarrassed to be a member of this party. A hearing is ...more
By Taz (679), East Quogue on Apr 14, 19 12:49 PM
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White nationalism....White nationalism is a type of nationalism or pan-nationalism which espouses the belief that white people are a race[1] and seeks to develop and maintain a white national identity.[2][3][4] Its proponents identify with and are attached to the concept of a white nation.[5] White nationalists say they seek to ensure the survival of the white race, and the cultures of historically white states. They hold that white people should maintain their majority in majority-white countries, ...more
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 14, 19 1:11 PM
"The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does."
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 14, 19 1:19 PM
synonym:one of two or more words or expressions of the same language that have the same or nearly the same meaning in some or all senses.Merriam-Webster dictionary. Where did u get your def above? You are finding ways to prove yourself right instead of looking for the truth.
By Taz (679), East Quogue on Apr 14, 19 1:31 PM
Wikipedia
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 14, 19 1:35 PM
Wikipedia is as trustworthy as its sources. Its own title page says "the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit." duh.
By Taz (679), East Quogue on Apr 14, 19 1:40 PM
It’s still white nationalism, deny , deny , deny
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 14, 19 1:54 PM
white nationalist noun
Definition of white nationalist
: one of a group of militant whites who espouse white supremacy and advocate enforced racial segregation
… his vision for the community—an enclave where residents fly "racialist" banners, where they are able to import enough … white nationalists to take control of the town government …
— John Eligon. Miriam Webster
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 14, 19 1:57 PM
Traitor (n): 1) One who advocates, supports, encourages the mass violation of democratically enacted immigration laws for the benefit of millions of citizens of foreign countries, to the detriment of the legal residents of that nation. 2) One who seeks to undermine, eliminate, remove, or dissolve the borders of their country in order to overwhelm the lawfully present population with illegal alien invaders, in the belief that by doing so and awarding them the right to vote at some future date, they ...more
By NateNewtown (99), east on Apr 14, 19 2:57 PM
Not sure what this has to do with Candace Owens, are you calling her a traitor?
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 14, 19 3:36 PM
When I get home, I will post the rest of her nonsensical “testimony “. She’s long on hot air, short on facts.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 14, 19 12:00 PM
I like to read the testimonies rather than watch and I found that she was the only speaker to not provide a copy of her prepared statements for public posting on the congressional website. What a shame.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 14, 19 12:09 PM
From politifact......During a congressional hearing on hate crimes, conservative African American commentator Candace Owens said that the Republican Party never had a strategy of capitalizing on racism to lure voters.

Owens said that black conservatives face criticism from the left because they "have the audacity to think for ourselves and become educated about our history, and the myth of things, like the Southern switch and the Southern strategy, which never happened."

The "Southern ...more
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 14, 19 1:15 PM
A "truth finding" org formed by the Times? R U joking? With pulitzers like the ones on collusion stories? Fake news.
By Taz (679), East Quogue on Apr 14, 19 1:37 PM
Does evidence not mean ANYTHING to you? There is a thing called objective fact. A/K/A evidence. Try reading a history book if you're stuck in your stupid, gaslit mindset vis-a-vis the newspaper of record. Willful ignorance is a hazard to the health of our republic, an affront to your fellow citizens.
By June Bug (2486), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 14, 19 7:57 PM
And just like that.....Liberals don’t want illegal immigrants in their sanctuary cities!

NIMBY!!! Remember all of my previous posts? All idealism until the truth comes. Trump is making all of you look like fools!!
By DiseaseDiocese (563), Riverhead on Apr 14, 19 7:28 PM
The only pack of fools are those who deny anthropogenic climate change.

Have a nice day...
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 15, 19 6:55 PM
Trump tried a weak political ploy, of course you like it.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 14, 19 7:48 PM
We have taken all the migrants who wanted to come here, and all the right wing nuts who abhor illegal immigration give them jobs that American citizens will not do. Bring them here and we will find more jobs for them. That is the reality in the Hamptons. Many, many people have benefited from their presence here.
By Mets fan (1466), Southampton on Apr 14, 19 9:55 PM
Ok Mets, let's discuss this one ; "jobs Americans won't do". Why are there segments of American society , able bodied folks able to work mind you , that do not and are supported by taxpayer funds generated by those who do work? If the free stuff was cut off , able bodied Americans would have to take the jobs. The system is broken on multiple levels , from generational dependence on government handouts to invading hordes of illegals from south of the border being overwhelming our social safety net ...more
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 15, 19 7:47 AM
So write a letter to the town of Southampton requesting a few thousand of these current migrants since Spartacus and Pelosi don’t want them. Go ahead...I dare you. You rich, delusional south fork liberals would NEVER allow such a thing. NIMBY!!!!!
By DiseaseDiocese (563), Riverhead on Apr 14, 19 10:06 PM
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They're already here and more are coming. They will be hired by right wing nut business owners who will tell you how much they hate illegal immigration.
By Mets fan (1466), Southampton on Apr 15, 19 6:06 AM
Diseased, stay on the north fork. Worry about your own business
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 15, 19 7:10 AM
Perry where did your sons go to school, K thru 12 ??? Please any of Perrys supporters can answer this simple question if they know, feel free.
By P. Revere (145), hampton Bays on Apr 14, 19 10:16 PM
The bulk of the immigrant children go to Hampton Bays schools. Many don't live in the HB school district, they are car pooled in by their parents from Flanders and Riverhead. They don't want their children going to Riverhead schools. HB taxpayers pay more school taxes to educate these children and their parents work east of the canal for the affluent libs that don't pay social security taxes for their domestics, landscapers , etc. working off the books.
By P. Revere (145), hampton Bays on Apr 14, 19 10:27 PM
They work for right wing business owners who abhor illegal immigration and enjoy the lib money that comes from Manhattan.
By Mets fan (1466), Southampton on Apr 15, 19 6:08 AM
Don't you claim to own a business Mets?
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 15, 19 6:40 AM
“Right wing business owners who abhor illegal immigration”. Some proof please. Cite some facts and use critical thinking to back your claim. Otherwise....STFU
By DiseaseDiocese (563), Riverhead on Apr 15, 19 7:27 AM
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Well, according to you, left wingers are free stuffers, so it only comes to reason it's right wingers with business' who are hiring. The truth really hurts, don't like it so blunt. I am never going to STFU, especially to a snowflake like yourself. Just like your child-liar-in-chief, you can can dish it out, but you can't take it. I'd be careful, if your get close to the orange chimpanzee, he'd probably grab you!! Ha-ha-ha!!
By Mets fan (1466), Southampton on Apr 15, 19 9:19 AM
Don't let Mets fool you for a moment if these "migrants were from western European country's he would not be so positive about them coming! Its all about the brownifacation of America and for him, Fredfore and Junezy it cant happen soon enough !
By 27dan (2753), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 15, 19 8:18 AM
Who has a problem with western European immigrants?

Whose fault is it that they prefer Europe to America?

The brownification of America is certainly happening (one in every two Americans born today has at least one Hispanic parent) but that doesn't mean anyone is against Norwegians or Swedes coming here...it just turns out they'd rather stay in Norway or Sweden.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 15, 19 9:21 AM
Everybody should want to live in the country they are born.
By themarlinspike (430), southampton on Apr 15, 19 10:58 AM
Wouldn't it be something if the migratory search for greener pastures wasn't necessary?

Lo and behold, the way things should be and the way they actually are don't always coincide.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 15, 19 11:05 AM
Then why didn't your ancestors stay put?
By Mets fan (1466), Southampton on Apr 15, 19 11:59 AM
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Nice one, Mets! I wonder if that thought occurred to Marlin.

Or maybe he's one of our Shinnecock neighbors, who knows?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 15, 19 12:39 PM
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I can claim a mere 7 Generations of English speaking family in Southampton.
What crappy country did you say you came from again ?
Apr 15, 19 1:25 PM appended by themarlinspike
I'm sure your answer will be total BS.
By themarlinspike (430), southampton on Apr 15, 19 1:25 PM
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I didn't, actually! But if you're really interested, my family was in the Americas long before yours ;-)
Apr 15, 19 1:31 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Marlin's ancestors: "We made it to the new world!" My ancestors: "What's so new about it?"
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 15, 19 1:31 PM
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So the crappy country you came from, we kicked their ass in two different wars, that one?
By Mets fan (1466), Southampton on Apr 15, 19 5:05 PM
"The Americas", The New World of which you speak - different continent, different hemisphere, thus you're own foreign nom de plume. Otherwise you wouldn't always think in such extreme foreign terms. Aren't you sick of losing. Don't forget to vote for Bernie & continue your streak..
Apr 16, 19 8:26 AM appended by themarlinspike
*** Long Live Ireland ***
By themarlinspike (430), southampton on Apr 16, 19 8:26 AM
Uh...the Americas and The New World both refer to the same western hemisphere, buddy.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 16, 19 8:32 AM
South America is a sub Continent in the Southern Hemisphere. No Aztecs, Incas, or Mayans, were in Sag Harbor or Greenport greeting the Europeans who legally disembarked here on the East End prior to the Civil War.
Apr 16, 19 8:58 AM appended by themarlinspike
*** Aztecs, Incas, and Mayans certainly did come into contact with the European colonists, but on a different Continent and Hemisphere, not in the USA. Face the facts, Ireland is closer in miles to Hampton Bays than Guatemala is !
By themarlinspike (430), southampton on Apr 16, 19 8:58 AM
"The New World is one of the names used for the majority of Earth's Western Hemisphere, specifically the Americas...The term originated in the early 16th century after Europeans made landfall in what would later be called the Americas."

Courtesy of Wikipedia.

In other words, The New World/The Americas/The Western Hemisphere refer to the same thing.

By the way, Aztecs, Incas, and Mayans certainly did come into contact with the European colonists.
Apr 16, 19 9:06 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Your understanding is wrong. The western hemisphere encompasses all of the Americas. Please educate yourself.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 16, 19 9:06 AM
All they did was show up at the front door. As long as you weren't dead or with contagious disease, you got in. If they had to wait months or years to get in, they would've gained access illegally. They did not have the resources to wait that long. Kinda like today.
By Mets fan (1466), Southampton on Apr 16, 19 9:23 AM
I see you, Marlin. Now check out a map of the western hemisphere and tell us what you see. Spoiler-alert: it ain't just the US and Canada.
Apr 16, 19 10:04 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Also, Ireland is about 1,000 miles farther from HB than Guatemala is...why wouldn't you check first and save yourself some embarrassment?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 16, 19 10:04 AM
Every undocumented roofer, painter & landscaper here from South America, that I have ever spoken to over the past 10 years, have said they took the arduous "camino route" which is about 3300 miles overland to Hampton Bays and takes about a month if lucky. I am very sorry you are ashamed of admitting you come from the "Southern Hemisphere". I have been there and found it rather nice. Shame on you for not being proud of your own country of birth.
Apr 17, 19 7:52 AM appended by themarlinspike
Even the Vikings & Saint Brendan made it to North America quicker ! It was the Shinnecocks, Irish & Norwegians who greeted my family when they arrived here over 150 years ago, not anybody from the South American continent.
By themarlinspike (430), southampton on Apr 17, 19 7:52 AM
Did you find that map of the western hemisphere yet?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 17, 19 11:04 AM
Hey, look over there.
Apr 17, 19 11:37 AM appended by themarlinspike
Interestingly enough, back then bawdy Sag Harbor was a legal Port of Entry for Europeans also from the Northern Hemisphere.
By themarlinspike (430), southampton on Apr 17, 19 11:37 AM
Can you tell us what you found? Was South America part of the map, or not?

Is it possible that it's part of BOTH the southern and western hemispheres?

The only shame in being wrong is being unable to admit it.
Apr 18, 19 11:41 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Yeah that's right. Change your avatar back in shame.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 17, 19 11:41 AM
Not exactly your Spartacus moment gaucho.
Apr 19, 19 6:15 PM appended by themarlinspike
SOUTH AMERICA OR BUST !!!!!!
By themarlinspike (430), southampton on Apr 18, 19 6:15 PM
Don't be sad that you didn't know your hemispheres, be glad that you do now.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 18, 19 6:52 PM
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By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Apr 18, 19 6:57 PM
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One I enjoy very much, thanks!

People watch TV all day and nobody bat's an eye, but I read and write for fun and you all lose your minds.

You better flick on the tune, Wheel's almost on ;)
Apr 18, 19 7:05 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Flick on the tube
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 18, 19 7:05 PM
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Funny like Gaucho Marx
By themarlinspike (430), Northern Hemisphere on Apr 19, 19 8:05 AM
And if you enjoy my jokes I'll be here all week ;-)
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 19, 19 9:49 PM
Cher: Los Angeles ‘Can’t Take Care of Its Own, How Can It Take Care of’ More Immigrants


That moment when you accidentally understand the President's point on the subject....
Apr 15, 19 9:10 AM appended by They call me
GOLDMAN SACHS: TRUMP RE-ELECTION LIKELY
By They call me (2732), southampton on Apr 15, 19 9:10 AM
You all think that this is unique in history. The Know nothing party in the 1850's, a party of Nativists, hated Germany for sending all of it's crap to America and then becoming Democrats when they got here.
By Mets fan (1466), Southampton on Apr 15, 19 9:24 AM
America's national disease is, and always has been, Stage 4 Xenophobia.
Presently it's against POC, but in the past white folk were the targets. A very bad look, people.
By June Bug (2486), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 15, 19 11:38 AM
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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Not Excited by Joe Biden 2020: “That does not particularly animate me right now,” Ocasio-Cortez said in response to a question about Biden during an interview with Yahoo News reporter Michael Isikoff.

This brain dead barmaid obliterated 25,000 of what Joe Biden called, “that three letter word, JOBS.” Who cares what she thinks lol
Apr 15, 19 11:39 AM appended by joe hampton
Joe's too old, white, and male for the modern-day Socialist party...A twenty something bartender and a couple jihadists are running the Democrat Party... should get interesting lol
By joe hampton (3382), The Hamptons on Apr 15, 19 11:39 AM
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What's wrong with being a bartender?

Who is a "jihadist"?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 15, 19 11:47 AM
Like a foreign born Hampton Bays home grown jihadist ?
Apr 18, 19 6:35 PM appended by themarlinspike
There's a junta somewhere that needs you.
By themarlinspike (430), southampton on Apr 18, 19 6:35 PM
How so? Oh wait, that's your two comments. Nevermind, we'll continue tomorrow.
Apr 20, 19 6:54 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Why would a military dictatorship need me? Perhaps it's just you that wants to ship me off somewhere other than the place I call home? Work on your insults, Marlin.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 18, 19 6:54 PM
You've already suffered enough for a week, better stay put for now.
By themarlinspike (430), Northern Hemisphere on Apr 20, 19 12:53 PM
Suffering? Hardly. Some people might find it tedious, but I catch, gut, and eat fish for fun ;)

Enjoy your holiday weekend!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 20, 19 3:27 PM
It's of factual historical significance to note that the pre-Columbian natives of the Southern Hemisphere would paint their captured prey blue before gutting and eating them.
Apr 22, 19 9:44 AM appended by themarlinspike
Speaking of course as a tag and release sportfishing pioneer from the 1970's.
By themarlinspike (430), Northern Hemisphere on Apr 22, 19 9:44 AM
Please elaborate. When you refer to the southern hemisphere are you talking about South America, Africa, Australia, or Antarctica?
Apr 22, 19 9:49 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Thanks for taking the bait, let's chat again tomorrow.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 22, 19 9:49 AM
Germane to the topic, the term pre-Columbian is used to refer to the cannibalistic cultures of South America in the time before significant European influence.
Apr 22, 19 10:14 AM appended by themarlinspike
No actual insult intended.
By themarlinspike (430), Northern Hemisphere on Apr 22, 19 10:14 AM
"Maybe "some people did something". They have been vandalizing churches all over France in the past weeks. Yesterday the Holy week began and now this is supposed to be a pure accident? What a tragedy this must be rebuilt at all costs!


I am affriad that before the embers cool, the new Mosque will be under construction.
By Ditch Bum (840), Water Mill on Apr 15, 19 3:47 PM
France fell to the radical Islam along time ago. We are just now having the funeral.
By They call me (2732), southampton on Apr 15, 19 3:51 PM
Be affriad. Be very affriad.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 15, 19 3:55 PM
Exactly Metsfan. You cite my comments. Brilliant.

You said “right wing business owners abhor illegal immigration”. Where’s hihat when you need him? Can I get a bipartisan interjection here? Somebody, anybody...Buehler???
By DiseaseDiocese (563), Riverhead on Apr 15, 19 4:07 PM
I think you're glossing over Mets' larger point: that despite their public rejection of illegal immigration, those same business-owners are the ones who benefit from undocumented labor.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 15, 19 4:24 PM
They abhor illegal immigration, but their the ones doing all the hiring. Usual pick and choose right wing nut hypocritical stance.
By Mets fan (1466), Southampton on Apr 15, 19 5:07 PM
care to prove your ASSertion Mets? You have claimed to be a business owner , correct?
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 15, 19 6:26 PM
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By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Apr 18, 19 6:55 PM
Rick Wilson & Joy Reid laugh at Trump just HOURS before he wins the Presidency. on YouTube explains EVERYTHING !
By Undocumented Democrat (1982), southampton on Apr 15, 19 4:49 PM
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I'm still laughing. Whether intentionally or not, he's a barrel of laughs.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 15, 19 4:57 PM
i just watched it omg!
By Erin 27 E (1225), hampton bays on Apr 15, 19 5:00 PM
Yes Erin... its amazing isn't it !

After getting married and having my children it was the most enjoyable night of my life ! and thanks to Y T it is the gift that just keeps on giving!

One of my favorites is the full Election Night coverage by the Young Turks ROTFLOL !

Truly must see TV !
By joe hampton (3382), The Hamptons on Apr 15, 19 5:10 PM
Yes, we know that your fondest memory of this administration won't actually be anything substantive, just the part where you won because it made you feel good.

The fact remains that the administration is historically inept and facts don't care about your feelings.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 15, 19 5:28 PM
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My wife and I were in the Publik House on election night and as the results were coming in it was priceless to see the productive members of society getting more and more excited and the liberal maggots damn near in tears! LIVE entertainment at it's finest. The years following have been a continuation of an unabashed pro America President's policies in action , business booming, taxes reduced and the USA regaining it's place as a truly benevolent super power.
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 15, 19 6:32 PM
Annnnd how's your amygdala today?

Looks to be in overdrive, just like every good connedservative sucker. Neofeudalism is an ugly stench...
Apr 15, 19 6:48 PM appended by Mr. Z
#Trickledownisforsuckers
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 15, 19 6:48 PM
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Trickle down drives our local economy JuneZ. Unless you drive for the Town, the people who pay your salary are the evil wealthy whom you slam at every opportunity.
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 15, 19 6:56 PM
Do you think McDonald's and Stop & Shop contribute more, or less than they extract from the local economy?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 15, 19 7:33 PM
Microeconomic, shortsighted POV as usual. In a way, it's nice to know there are constants in the universe. Everything you posted is absolutely wrong. The double edged sword must have gouged your eyes.


60 Wealthy Corporations Don’t Have To Pay Taxes Under Trump-GOP Tax Plan
APRIL 15, 2019

60 of America’s biggest corporations zeroed out their federal income taxes on $79 billion in U.S. pretax income. Instead of paying $16.4 billion in taxes at the 21 percent ...more
Apr 15, 19 7:43 PM appended by Mr. Z
Y'know, you're pretty arrogant for someone with at least a fifteen year head start. Buying major assets at gold standard prices, while your income inflates via the new fiat currency economy while the Fed prints trillions out of thin air. Luckiest generation ever. But, you're so gosh darn smart you already knew that...
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 15, 19 7:43 PM
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"Yes, we know that your fondest memory of this administration won't actually be anything substantive, just the part where you won because it made you feel good"

Really good.......

No like REALLY REALLY F GOOD !
By 27dan (2753), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 15, 19 8:13 PM
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A victory which rings hollow is no victory at all.

Sad one can take such pleasure from nothing whatsoever. What's it like to be so easily amused?
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 15, 19 8:25 PM
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Yes, thank you for making my point.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 15, 19 8:27 PM
Saw a video clip of Pete Buttigieg playing classical piano. Another speaking Spanish. And now he's telling Parisians he shares their pain -in French. Just imagine a president whose intellect exceeds that of a root vegetable and MAP(roud)A.
By June Bug (2486), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 15, 19 10:40 PM
JuneBug. Your post just made me vomit in my mouth.

“The white liberal differs from the white conservative only in one way: the liberal is more DECEITFUL than the conservative.
Both want power, but the white liberal is the one who has perfected the art of POSING as a negro’s friend and benefactor.”—Malcolm X
By DiseaseDiocese (563), Riverhead on Apr 16, 19 6:50 AM
Sick, are ya'? So sorry.
By June Bug (2486), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 16, 19 11:55 AM
Diseased, you quote Malcolm x, the rest of you call him the enemy. Which one is it?
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 16, 19 7:52 AM
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No worries. Some people did something in Paris yesterday. Move on.

Isn't it AMAZING how they don't want to talk about how that fire started (or who)?
By Ditch Bum (840), Water Mill on Apr 16, 19 9:56 AM
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I heard AOC asked if the hunchback was ok.
By They call me (2732), southampton on Apr 16, 19 9:59 AM
"Paris prosecutor Remy Heitz said there is no evidence of arson and that investigators are working under the assumption that the inferno was an accident."

What do you know that investigators don't, Bum?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 16, 19 10:00 AM
@ Fore1gnBornHBgrown

At this point in time, Ditch Bum's comment is but a puerile, insensitive attempt by a true believer to manipulate a monumental tragedy for crass political purposes. But how long do you suppose that it will take before he and his fellow Islamophobes start declaiming as fact that the evil Muslims started the fire?
By highhatsize (4117), East Quogue on Apr 16, 19 10:38 AM
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Not long. Not long at all.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 17, 19 10:41 PM
Did any of you see the scaffolding up? Of course not. No one mentioned the welders working on site either.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 16, 19 10:14 AM
Pure conjecture and innuendo, just like Biba and Sturgis on Parkland.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 16, 19 10:18 AM
Conjecture is your middle name pal
Apr 16, 19 10:45 AM appended by Sturgis
I would say about 80 % of all your posts I’m being quite fair ....
By Sturgis (603), Southampton on Apr 16, 19 10:45 AM
Give me just one example, Bud.

Similar to the conversation you abandoned about hypocrisy in the treatment of #metoo allegations against Democrats and Republicans, you won't.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 16, 19 10:48 AM
Google it
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 16, 19 11:18 AM
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Islamic State Plan for Series of Paris-Style Massacres Across EuropePlans for a series of Islamic State terrorist attacks across Europe in emulation of the Bataclan massacre in Paris, France, have been revealed. The Sunday Times

In a letter to the Islamic State’s self-appointed caliph Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi uncovered by The Sunday Times, six jihadist leaders describe how they will use a number of so-called “crocodile cells” to acquire funds for terrorist operations through ...more
By Ditch Bum (840), Water Mill on Apr 16, 19 10:48 AM
Delicious halal food, for one thing.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 16, 19 10:54 AM
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By Erin 27 E (1225), hampton bays on Apr 16, 19 10:56 AM
You sound like the beacon of tolerance.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 16, 19 11:04 AM
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We live in extraordinarily dangerous times and yet the policies which produced the danger are being sustained in the teeth of evidence and popular disapproval. Not only has migration increased to levels which can only divide society into ghettoes, making assimilation impossible, but the leaders of our society routinely denigrate and criminalise our old, founding identity, encouraging newcomers to do the same. In some of our leaders this is sentimental moralism; in others dry-as-dust technocratic ...more
By joe hampton (3382), The Hamptons on Apr 16, 19 10:52 AM
Poor enclaves of foreign-born immigrants are a historical constant, yet assimilation continues to happen. Once the old fogies are no longer around to complain, we'll find that these new Americans (and the culture they blend into ours) are no better or worse than the immigrants of yore.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 16, 19 11:16 AM
@joe hampton: If you're going to quote skata from that (other) white nationalist snowflake Shapiro who conjures up laughably ridiculous scenarios, how about source citation and some quotation marks around the cutting and pasting y'all routinely complain about?
As for those "extraordinarily dangerous times", some locals can tell you how dangerous it was for their ancestors when they arrived here in the early part of the century and had crosses burned in their yards. Maybe it happened ...more
By June Bug (2486), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 16, 19 12:13 PM
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Michelle Obama Wants Trumps Tax Returns: LOL Really ?

Hi Michele, it has been awhile since we have seen you. Thanks for dropping by.
If you don't mind I have a few questions for you?

Unanswered Mystery Of The Century: Barry Barack Hussein Soetoro Obama
Is he or isn’t he an American? What did he do in Indonesia during his youth from two through 12 years? What did he become? Where did he attend college in America? With whose money? Who were his girlfriends? Why doesn’t ...more
By They call me (2732), southampton on Apr 16, 19 1:02 PM
Lol, yes, let's see the college transcripts of both Obama and Trump, side-by-side please.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 16, 19 1:05 PM
Bigger mystery, how can you be so gullible? Take your time with the explanation.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 16, 19 1:12 PM
Gullible is a right wing prerequisite.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 16, 19 11:23 PM
Alex Jones wannabe. Let's start with this, greatest debt accumulated for one month in February, in the history of the United States
By Mets fan (1466), Southampton on Apr 17, 19 5:49 AM
Joe, post a citation please.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 16, 19 11:06 AM
No citation necessary... I was just in a high hat kind of mood.
By joe hampton (3382), The Hamptons on Apr 16, 19 12:49 PM
And here I was under the impression that you were sharing your own thoughts. What a shame...I was surprised by your eloquence!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 16, 19 12:50 PM
So it’s not your writing? Surprise. That’s disingenuous
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 16, 19 1:10 PM
Sounded like a cheap attempt at a knockoff of Ray Bradbury with a crappy imitation of Aldous Huxley sprinkled in.
Apr 16, 19 11:43 PM appended by Mr. Z
Where art thine dystopia?
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 16, 19 11:43 PM
Classic alt left reaction : attack the messenger and ignore the message. There were some good points brought up in They Call Me's post, but inevitably there will be the charge of RACISM leveled against any and all with the temerity to question the Almighty Barak.
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 16, 19 4:48 PM
Sure. "Right wingers" here NEVER do that...

LMMFAO.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 16, 19 11:15 PM
You’ve just proven you are completely out of touch. A racist rumor to discredit the future president. It’s a LIE. Get it? The mystery continues, fools will be fools, you are in the front of the pack. Grow up
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 16, 19 7:57 PM
Trump Theme Song:

Liar
Rollins Band

you think you're gonna to live your life alone
in darkness
and seclusion
yeah I know
you've been out there
tried to mix with those animals
and it just left you full of humiliated confusion
so you stagger back home
and wait for nothing
but the solitary refinement of your room spits you back out onto the street
and now you're desperate
and in need of human contact
and then
you meet me
and ...more
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 16, 19 11:26 PM
Thanks for chiming in right on que Bitter Freddy, and throwing in the racism angle to boot.
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 17, 19 6:40 AM
No racist angle, birther movement is a racist diatribe invented by trump. It takes a special kind of fool to still believe in something that’s been proven false, clown
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 17, 19 12:00 PM
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See libbies....I was correct about AOC’s voting district all along. Pelosi just said a water bottle with the letter “D” on it could’ve won too. I’m sure Omar’s district is quite similar. Our way of life is being threatened by radical reps from dingleberry sections of sanctuary cities. Nuff’ said.
By DiseaseDiocese (563), Riverhead on Apr 16, 19 10:27 PM
Go back to Riverhead, bring your foolish argument to your own local paper.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 16, 19 10:34 PM
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"Must See TV"

If Fox News Covered Trump The Way It Covered Obama

What if Fox News covered Trump the way it covered Obama? It would look like this


TRUMP GOLF COUNT: 168*

Cost to Taxpayer: About $96,000,000**

*Daytime visits to golf clubs since inauguration, with evidence of playing golf on at least 79 visits. Our last recorded outing was on April 13, 2019. Click on complete data table for a list of Trump's outings, or view our breakdown of total costs.

**Read ...more
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 16, 19 11:22 PM
I just love it!! The biggest champions of illegal aliens are changing their tunes now that they may get illegals sent their way. Can you say double standard?? Their Hero Obama did this Very Thing..... he sent Illegals and Refugees to Red State areas.... to turn them Blue.... The Leftist politicians Never had to live with their Decisions before..... now its Butthurt Time!
By They call me (2732), southampton on Apr 17, 19 2:11 AM
Looks like FoxNews wash predicting the future with their s*** talking reporting:

"Must See TV"

If Fox News Covered Trump The Way It Covered Obama

What if Fox News covered Trump the way it covered Obama? It would look like this

By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 17, 19 6:11 AM
@ They call me

Quote:

"Unanswered Mystery Of The Century: Barry Barack Hussein Soetoro Obama
Is he or isn’t he an American? ... etc. etc."
-----------------------------------

Distasteful Right-Wing onanistic fantasy, disproven long ago by Snopes, Politifcat, and FactCheck. (Take your pick.)

Get out of your room once in while, They call me.
------------------------------------

Quote:

"I just love it!! The biggest champions ...more
By highhatsize (4117), East Quogue on Apr 17, 19 5:52 AM
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Bring them here, right wing nut business owners who violently oppose illegal immigration will give them jobs that American citizens refuse to do.
By Mets fan (1466), Southampton on Apr 17, 19 5:53 AM
WTF is wrong with this administration?


Gold Star husband was deported amid hold on his removal, ICE says

Daniel González
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 17, 19 6:17 AM
Answer: everything.
By June Bug (2486), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 17, 19 11:46 AM
“Go back to Riverhead, bring your foolish argument to your own local paper.”—Bitter Fred

I’m proud of my neighborhood. Blue collar, hardworking, pro-America. Much like the rest of the North Fork, which in my opinion, has much more real people and much less phonies living in it than the South Fork. You can keep the NYC 2nd homers and the weekend warriors. You can also keep your bubble jackets (you know, the ones that every single man in the Hamptons own), your vests, ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (563), Riverhead on Apr 17, 19 7:25 AM
Never called you “white trash” your paranoia is consuming you. You write and degrade the are I live and worked in most of my adult life. I tell you to bring your foolish argument to your own local paper .I’m beginning to think you got a few loose screws.i didn’t mean anything derogatory about your blessed area. Don’t you find it ironic that your saying derogatory about my area, when I called you on it you makeup some make believe narrative. Go get some sleep, don’t ...more
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 18, 19 5:22 AM
Donations Reach €1Bn to Rebuild Notre-Dame Which Was ’30 Minutes’ Away from Total Destruction......

"30 minutes away from total destruction"

30 minutes away from erasing 800 years of history.
To destroy a People one must first destroy their history.

The burning of Notre Dame to me is a symbol of what the Globalists and their Radical Muslim and Marxist collaborators are trying to do to our countries and cultures, destroy them and replace them with ...more
By Ditch Bum (840), Water Mill on Apr 17, 19 11:34 AM
Please refrain from speculation until we are told the official lies.

By 27dan (2753), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 17, 19 11:36 AM
The election of Donald Trump to me is a symbol of what the GOP and their White Supremacist and Racist collaborators are trying to do to our countries and cultures, destroy them and replace them with white men.

VERY SIMPLEY..... NO!

Keep America Great !
By johnj (1011), Westhampton on Apr 17, 19 11:41 AM
Check out Paul Joseph Watson on You Tube to find out how radical Muslim neighborhoods in France celebrated the destruction. Absolutely Disgusting.

Rebuild and Fortify !

France and the West has bent over backwards for these ungrateful violent savages

Assimilate or GTFO

Keep European History and Culture Great !
By Ditch Bum (840), Water Mill on Apr 17, 19 11:41 AM
Please feel free to believe whatever you want. Facts don't care about your feelings.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 17, 19 11:41 AM
Facts don’t care about your feelings either dear ...
By Sturgis (603), Southampton on Apr 17, 19 4:05 PM
Exactly. The fact that there is no evidence of arson doesn't care about how you, dan, bum, or I feel.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 17, 19 4:45 PM
That was a super fast investigation huh ... :)
By Sturgis (603), Southampton on Apr 17, 19 5:22 PM
As I understand it, the investigation is ongoing and so far there is no evidence of arson.

If you know better than the investigators you should give them a call and offer to help.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 17, 19 5:58 PM
Nice avatar fore
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 17, 19 4:52 PM
Trump has effectively wiped ISIS off the face of the earth... but, for whatever reason some of you here seem to think thats no big deal ? wonder why ?
By 27dan (2753), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 17, 19 5:07 PM
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By Erin 27 E (1225), hampton bays on Apr 17, 19 5:13 PM
Cadet Bone Spurs with zero military training or enlistment defeated ISIS.

Got any more whoppers?
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 17, 19 5:58 PM
Hey dan. If ISIS is "wiped off the face of the earth" how are they still killing people?

"ISIS Lost Its Last Territory in Syria. But the Attacks Continue." New York Times. March 23, 2019.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 17, 19 6:03 PM
@ Erin 27 E

If you hired the Goodyear Blimp to advertise your ignorance and bigotry it could not be more obvious than your comments (like this one) have already proclaimed.
By highhatsize (4117), East Quogue on Apr 17, 19 6:24 PM
American lives killed in action, so the orange chimpanzee can hand it all over to his bromance lover Putin and the brutal dictator Assad. He left the hard fighting Kurds out to dry. What was the point fighting there if we give it all to Russia.
By Mets fan (1466), Southampton on Apr 17, 19 5:50 PM
So, maybe a year or so ago, Warren Wilhelm Jr (AKA Bill Deblasio) called his city a Sanctuary City and opened his arms to all immigrants...illegal or not. Offering them free health care and access to numerous free give-away programs to help them along. Fast forward now to 2019. Trump would like to help the cause by sending him what he wants and guess what.....NIMBY!!!!!

NIMBY is a recurring theme in the Democrat/Liberal/Socialist parties in America. Good in theory...just don’t do ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (563), Riverhead on Apr 18, 19 7:09 AM
Diseased , post a citation quoting the mayor saying all those things, it would help your accusations.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 18, 19 7:29 AM
No. Your “business owners” claim was out of left field. Comments like that need citations. If you need me to cite the Mayor’s liberal policies to you then there’s no helping you. It’s public knowledge. All of it. His love for immigrants and at the same time, his NIMBY attitude towards them. No citations needed. Just common sense.

And spare me your BS explanation on what you meant in your earlier post about Riverhead. It came off as smug and snooty. Like “I’m ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (563), Riverhead on Apr 18, 19 8:45 AM
New York City is already a sanctuary for undocumented New Yorkers. Why should we accept people without ties to the state?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 18, 19 5:55 PM
Diseased, I never said anything about business owners, you got the wrong guy.to add, I’ve never implied I was in a higher social or financial standing then anyone. You can go back and find my quote, it doesn’t exist. I’ve never said one negative thing about the north fork, ever. You are the one spouting negative things about the south fork. Get a grip on yourself. Just to add from an old friend,” it’s a poor frog who don’t brag about his own pond”.grow up ...more
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 18, 19 9:11 AM
@ DiseaseDiocese

Your claim that the attitude of the residents of sanctuary cities towards undocumented immigrants has changed since The Donald made his childish threat is a LIE. THAT'S the reason you refuse to post a verifying reference. NONE EXIST. You simply made it up (as did your true believer colleague, They call me, on the same topic, yesterday) and have added it to the compendium of mendacious Right-Wing cant that you lot have been composing for years.

The TRUTH is that ...more
By highhatsize (4117), East Quogue on Apr 18, 19 9:21 AM
No collusion.......
Apr 18, 19 9:49 AM appended by Sturgis
Oh poor Fred...
By Sturgis (603), Southampton on Apr 18, 19 9:49 AM
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No collusion, but conspiracy abounds. One should wonder about the 12 criminal referrals which were redacted, and it seems Donald Trump Jr. was in contact with WikiLeaks. They even emailed him the password to trumpputin dot org.

Advice to the foolish, don't count your chickens just yet...
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 18, 19 9:43 PM
Google it
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 18, 19 9:53 AM
NO COLLUSION !


JOBLESS CLAIMS TUMBLE TO 50 YEAR LOWS !!!


MAGA !!!
By 27dan (2753), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 18, 19 2:45 PM
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As for the question of whether the Trump campaign had colluded with Russia during the 2016 presidential campaign, Mueller wrote that the campaign “expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts. But Mueller said investigators concluded, “While the investigation identified numerous links between individuals with ties to the Russian government and individuals associated with the Trump Campaign, the evidence was not sufficient to support ...more
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 18, 19 10:12 PM
Ergo, there WAS collusion with Russians but criminal charges could not be supported.

You just can't fix stupid.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 18, 19 10:13 PM
Media Metldown: The Hoaxes Live On Despite Total Exoneration ...

I want a 2018 mid terms do over as Mueller allowed Russian hoax to influence the 2018 elections! Everyone of these Weasel Bastards should be SUED for liable and defamation of character. This has gone BEYOND the pale.

The 1st Amendment protects free speech but it does NOT protect out and out lies for the Press or the populace.

I don't know what goes beyond TDS but whatever it is they are deep into it.

MAGA ...more
By joe hampton (3382), The Hamptons on Apr 18, 19 2:54 PM
Lol I'm "liable" to get a hernia for all the laughs you folks provide.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 18, 19 5:50 PM
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Wonder how juicy those 12 criminal referrals are...
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 18, 19 9:40 PM
Just like the mid terms joe. This is the beginning.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 18, 19 3:04 PM
It is the begining of a new kind of investagation bitter Fred

We the people want the Millions back for this phony investigation!
We want justice.
We want all of the people, starting with the kenyan, to Get what they've got coming
Lets watch them squirm!
Fock these leftists bastárds !!
Now its time for PAYBACK
Life is good !

MAGA !
By Ditch Bum (840), Water Mill on Apr 18, 19 3:06 PM
Lol, keep dreaming, bum. Might as well ask Santa for a new Ferrari while you're on it.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 18, 19 5:47 PM
For all the dumba$$es on "the right":

Mueller wrote that investigators “did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”
Apr 18, 19 10:02 PM appended by Mr. Z
As for the question of whether the Trump campaign had colluded with Russia during the 2016 presidential campaign, Mueller wrote that the campaign “expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts. But Mueller said investigators concluded, “While the investigation identified numerous links between individuals with ties to the Russian government and individuals associated with the Trump Campaign, the evidence was not sufficient to support criminal charges.”
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 18, 19 10:02 PM
You the people are a group of conspiracy theorist and bitter Enders. Decent Americans know trump is a low moral loser, this isn’t over by any stretch, it’s just starting. You are right in one thing, the payback the liar in Chief is facing.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 18, 19 3:24 PM
Trump: 'I'm having a good day!' It's called no collusion, no obstruction."

Thank you mr. Trump president of United States for the good job you doing keep it up 6 more years !

By Undocumented Democrat (1982), southampton on Apr 18, 19 3:25 PM
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You really should read more...


Trump's First Reaction to Special Counsel: 'This is the End of My Presidency. I'm F*cked'
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 18, 19 9:45 PM
Whats that Bitter Fred LOLHALOLOMG!

Fred in full out meltdown must be a great day for America!

CNN ratings down 70%
MSNBC ratings down 30%
Hollywood suffering the worst year in ages.
Chances of Trump winning in 2020 are better than ever.
All in all, it's been a GREAT day.
By They call me (2732), southampton on Apr 18, 19 3:35 PM
Only if you're an ignoramus.


Mueller report: Donald Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort shared internal polling data, strategy for winning midwestern states with Ukrainian ally Konstantin Kilimnik

Mueller report: Paul Manafort shared campaign info in an effort to collect debts from Ukrainian oligarch Oleg Deripaska. Report says Manafort discussed a plan with Konstantin Kilimnik to create an autonomous, Russia-friendly regime in E. Ukraine several times between 2016-2018.
Apr 18, 19 9:47 PM appended by Mr. Z
Mueller report: Investigators could not conclusively determine that no criminal conduct occurred. The investigation did not conclude that Donald Trump committed a crime, but also did not exonerate him.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 18, 19 9:47 PM
Yes bitter ender it’s a great day.let this play out, the way it’s supposed to .We will see who has the last laugh.just to add, my life goes on.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 18, 19 5:54 PM
Indeed.

What part of, "The investigation did not conclude that Donald Trump committed a crime, but also did not exonerate him" does this bunch of f***** idiots not understand?

By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 18, 19 9:52 PM
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By Bayman3142 (233), Southampton on Apr 18, 19 11:21 PM
Republicans: 89
Democrats: 1

WINNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 19, 19 6:44 AM
@ Bayman3142

Quote:

"How DO they fit all that stupid in one tiny head?"
-----------------------------------------

Hmmmm. Can a head can get so tiny that the brain contained within is incapable of discerning the difference between INTENTIONAL behavior and CARELESS behavior?

The question in The Donald's case is whether his repeated efforts to undermine the Russia probe crossed the threshold of criminal behavior and are indictable as "obstruction of justice." ...more
By highhatsize (4117), East Quogue on Apr 19, 19 3:43 AM
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Even the ultra partisan hack Pelosi realizes that there's nothing the Democrat Party can do about the Mueller report! THE END , now get to work Congress and attempt to earn the whopping salaries that you are paid, do the people's business.
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 19, 19 6:14 AM
Uh, "nothing"? How 'bout stop voting for GOP clowns and criminals?

Since 1969, Republican presidential administrations have 121 criminal indictments and 89 convictions, while Democrats have had 3 and 1 respectively.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 19, 19 6:37 AM


What part of, "The investigation did not conclude that Donald Trump committed a crime, but also did not exonerate him" does this bunch of f***** idiots not understand? —Mr. Z

Because these bunch of f****** idiots understand that you’re giving us liberal talking points straight from CNN and MSNBC.
Let’s also not forget here that the authors of the Mueller report were Trump haters.

And yes bitter Fred, we will see who has the last laugh...when the ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (563), Riverhead on Apr 19, 19 6:37 AM
Those are direct quotes from a Republican who authored the report. As far as criminal history and track record...

Since 1969, Republican presidential administrations have 121 criminal indictments and 89 convictions, while Democrats have had 3 and 1 respectively.
Apr 19, 19 6:39 AM appended by Mr. Z
Even when we standardize it by getting annual averages, GOP administrations still have 29 times more indictments, 64 times more convictions, and 24 times more prison sentences.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 19, 19 6:39 AM
Post that citation about the nyc mayor, you still have a chance to save what little credibility you have left. Keep dreaming
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 19, 19 7:01 AM
DD - "The investigation did not conclude that Donald Trump committed a crime, but also did not exonerate him"

This quote does not come from CNN or MSNBC. It comes from the letter DJT's hand picked interference runner, William P. Barr AGUS sent to congress and then released to the public. Hardly a liberal talking point.

Additionally, the letter from Mr Barr also points out that the investigation is not over as there are "...other ongoing matters, including those that the Special ...more
By bird (806), Sag Harbor on Apr 19, 19 4:04 PM
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Sad days to be an alt left Democrat Party believer, you reap what you sew.
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 19, 19 7:15 AM
Like Manafort colluding with Russian operatives?
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 19, 19 2:14 PM
It’s sow. It’s even a sadder day to see you bitter Enders still towing the line for the liar in Chief. The mueller report reinforced all the things the press and books said about trump , dysfunctional and many lies. Trump doesn’t have a clue, and neither do you.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 19, 19 7:41 AM
No collusion, no obstruction. THE END. of course the alt leftists have nothing else have nothing else so the wailing will continue
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 19, 19 8:22 AM
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No collusion, no obstruction. THE END. of course the alt leftists have nothing else have nothing else so the wailing will continue
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 19, 19 8:22 AM
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No obstruction? From the mueller report....“If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment.” (pg. 182)
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 19, 19 9:12 AM
No collusion? Bull****.

There was no evidence to support a criminal charge of conspiracy. but you're so gosh darn smart you know the difference, right?
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 19, 19 2:10 PM
All evidence points to Obama. The Obama who boasted that there had not been a "smidgen of corruption throughout his administration", no one had any idea how fatefully accurate that was.

There was definitely no mere smidgen of Obama Administration scandal. In fact, "Fast & Furious" and Benghazi only count for a smidgen of scandal, compared to the mega-mountain of criminality & corruption coming to light now. The Obama Administration's "legacy" shall be a coup attempt. Possibly the darkest ...more
By They call me (2732), southampton on Apr 19, 19 11:54 PM
Read the report.

Collusion is not conspiracy. Conspiracy is criminal. Trump is not exonerated.

"If it's what you say, I love it."
Manafort-Kilimnik
Seychelles-Prince
The Server Troika (Alfa Bank - dedicated PA server - Spectrum Health)


Stupid, or blind. You choose folks...
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 20, 19 12:40 AM
That’s according to your slanted distorted view. The rest of your right leaning posters are still whining about Hillary, do you see the hypocrisy? Of course you don’t. A 2 year investigation just had the results posted YESTERDAY, but you already know what it says? You are neither a mind reader or very intuitive, let’s leave it to Congress. It’s called checks and balances.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 19, 19 8:44 AM
"10 instances of obstruction"
By johnj (1011), Westhampton on Apr 19, 19 9:10 AM
Hillary lied about her server. Deleted government emails. Destroyed personal phones. But it’s Trump who is accused of obstruction. joke
By They call me (2732), southampton on Apr 19, 19 11:56 PM
Hey genius, trumps the president
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 20, 19 6:39 AM
thank the lord for that
By Erin 27 E (1225), hampton bays on Apr 21, 19 10:37 AM
That's what you thank god for on Easter weekend?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 21, 19 4:53 PM
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By DiseaseDiocese (563), Riverhead on Apr 19, 19 9:40 AM
Post a citation, try.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 19, 19 9:52 AM
President TRUMP !
By joe hampton (3382), The Hamptons on Apr 19, 19 11:49 PM
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"I am sickened at the extent and pervasiveness of dishonesty and misdirection by individuals in the highest office of the land, including the President. I am also appalled that, among other things, fellow citizens working in a campaign for president welcomed help from Russia-including information which had been illegally obtained; that none of them acted to inform American law enforcement, and that the campaign chairman was actively promoting Russian interests in Ukraine."

~ Mitt Romney
Apr 20, 19 12:46 AM appended by Mr. Z
Reading the report is a sobering revelation of how far we have strayed from the aspirations and principles of the founders.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 20, 19 12:46 AM
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By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 20, 19 12:53 AM
IMHO the entire anti Trump infatuation is being promulgated by the swamp creatures in DC. Mitt is just the latest to jump on the bandwagon . The swamp was a peaceful place , going about it's business of fleecing the American taxpayers , skimming a nice piece of the action and allegedly "governing'. Democrat or Republican it made no difference. The Bush family , the Clinton crime syndicate , even the Manchurian candidate Barak Hussein Obama , all swamp dwellers and beneficiaries of the graft trickling ...more
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 20, 19 8:44 AM
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Please list a single thing that Trump has done to diminish corruption in American politics.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 20, 19 8:49 AM
Please list a single thing ANY politician has done to diminish corruption in American politics .
By AndersEn (169), Southampton on Apr 20, 19 9:14 AM
Please list a single thing ANY politician has done to diminish corruption in American politics .
By AndersEn (169), Southampton on Apr 20, 19 9:14 AM
Here is a partial list of the notable Trump-era Swamp Draining firings, demotions, and departures :

FBI Departures:

James Comey, director (fired)
Andrew McCabe, deputy director (fired)
Peter Strzok, counterintelligence expert (fired)
Lisa Page, attorney (demoted; resigned)
James Rybicki, chief of staff (resigned)
James Baker, general counsel (resigned)
Mike Kortan, assistant director for public affairs (resigned)
Josh ...more
Apr 20, 19 9:54 AM appended by themarlinspike
Without the protection of the "Deep State" the Socialist Democrats are in their free fall you see today. Vote them all out.
By themarlinspike (430), Northern Hemisphere on Apr 20, 19 9:54 AM
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Yes, but taking for granted all of them were corrupt, how does firing those people prevent new swamp monsters from doing the same?

As for a politician moving against corruption... I would point you to the entire NYS legislature taking steps toward campaign finance reform in the most recent budget.

The less shadow-money is involved in politics, the better.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 20, 19 3:21 PM
When you look at the modern democrat's party platform, a person that would support it cannot possibly have any morals, a conscience or a soul.

North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper (D) vetoed a bill Thursday that would have protected infants who survive abortion from infanticide.

The Democrat governor vetoed Senate Bill 359, “An Act Establishing the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act.”

When you look at the modern democrat's party platform, a person that ...more
By 27dan (2753), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 20, 19 10:41 AM
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As 27 dan the biggest trump supporter says. Trump a “man” who bangs a porn actress while his wife is at home with a baby, then pays for her silence, and denies it. Trump a “man” who separates legal asylum seekers from their children. This trying to be tough. Trump the “man” who attacks people daily on his twitter account. Trump a “man” who tells more lies then any president in history. Keep up the good work 27dan, your “ man” is a weak ...more
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 20, 19 10:56 AM
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By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 20, 19 11:09 AM
Our man does not kill infants. Period.
By Taz (679), East Quogue on Apr 20, 19 11:39 AM
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That you know of . Period
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 20, 19 12:09 PM
Ha. That your best answer?
By Taz (679), East Quogue on Apr 20, 19 12:20 PM
Trump pretty much had no problem with abortion until he needed the evangelical vote. Opportunist, and hypocrite.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 21, 19 5:13 AM
It's so transparent only the willfully-blind would be fooled.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 21, 19 6:04 AM
Not for nothing, your reply was equally as weak. You came up with nothing. My answer to you is, if your against abortion, don’t get one, that simple enough?
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 20, 19 12:35 PM
Late term/after birth termination is MURDER.That simple enough?Don't get pregnant if u don't want a baby. How about the father? Does he have a choice?
By Taz (679), East Quogue on Apr 20, 19 12:41 PM
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Weak argument. If the father wants a baby, find a women who does.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 20, 19 1:42 PM
@ Taz

Quote:

"Late term/after birth termination is MURDER.That simple enough?"
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It certainly is SIMPLE, which is why true believers find that perspective so attractive (in this and in so many, many other cases.) Rational people see a nuanced and complex question - - - which puts it outside of the orbit of Right-Wing "thought".
By highhatsize (4117), East Quogue on Apr 20, 19 12:55 PM
MURDER is not "nuanced and complex"-see the 10 Commandments.
By Taz (679), East Quogue on Apr 20, 19 1:11 PM
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The 10 commandments? What part of the constitution is that in? I can’t locate it in the constitution.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 20, 19 1:45 PM
The 10 commandments? What part of the constitution is that in? I can’t locate it in the constitution.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 20, 19 1:45 PM
I wasn't aware that our constitution superseded the 10 commandments.Exactly where is our constitution in conflict with the 10 commandments?
By Taz (679), East Quogue on Apr 20, 19 2:11 PM
I’m implying, who are you to be my moral compass based on a religious doctrine ? The greatest part of living in this country is separation of church and state. I appreciate your religious beliefs, that’s your deal, don’t try and force them on me.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 20, 19 2:21 PM
U attack and deflect but don't answer my question. Does the constitution conflict with the 10 commandments? BTW u would be wrong if u presume to know my religious beliefs. I am not your moral compass, that's on you.
By Taz (679), East Quogue on Apr 20, 19 2:41 PM
I never presumed your religious beliefs. They are yours. I don’t know what you want for an answer, it will still be argumentative , according to you.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 20, 19 2:50 PM
Abortion is a sacrament to the left as witnessed by the horrific comments above! Godless and without a moral compass.
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 20, 19 2:25 PM
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And by moral compass I mean the difference to tell good from evil, right from wrong.
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 20, 19 2:27 PM
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Go read you own comments . Your got your moral compass from a box of cracker jacks, it’s broke and never worked. You got nerve to call anyone on anything pertaining to decent morals.To bad your most moral comments have been deleted.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 20, 19 2:46 PM
Attack and deflect again. This is about good vs evil, right from wrong, regardless of the 10 commandments.
By Taz (679), East Quogue on Apr 20, 19 2:50 PM
Good vs. evil ? Right from wrong? I’d have to say that’s your opinion. I’m fine with your belief, don’t try to force them on me.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 20, 19 2:53 PM
Sorry if I threaten u with my belief murder is wrong. U r the one trying to force your beliefs on me. At least u can be secure in knowing I will not murder anyone. Have a nice (holiday) weekend.
By Taz (679), East Quogue on Apr 20, 19 2:58 PM
You too
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 20, 19 3:24 PM
Do you believe taking an innocent life is wrong Freddy?
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 20, 19 3:07 PM
If you think abortion is murder, don't get one.

If you're a man, don't have sex with women.

Fool-proof way you won't contribute to an abortion!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 20, 19 3:16 PM
“If you’re a man, don’t have sex with women”—Fore1gn

Liberal Logic in plain view.
By DiseaseDiocese (563), Riverhead on Apr 20, 19 11:10 PM
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You glossed over the context of "if you're so worried about your seed being aborted" but yeah...if you're so worried about what a woman will do with her body after you have sex with her, just don't.

It's idiot-proof!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 20, 19 11:29 PM
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Blah blah blah. You’re words , not mine
By DiseaseDiocese (563), Riverhead on Apr 20, 19 11:59 PM
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No, I'm a person.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 21, 19 6:02 AM
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Thank your mother apparently. Father, not so much.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 21, 19 7:00 PM
If you're here, thank your parents. If you know the difference between "your" and "you're" thank a teacher.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 21, 19 7:16 PM
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Disgusting people think the murder of baby's is just fine.

How do you live with yourself

Disgusting just Disgusting
By 27dan (2753), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 21, 19 1:49 AM
"Such an interesting question. So, what's your next question?"

~ Donald Trump
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 21, 19 5:18 AM
He is risen!
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 21, 19 8:17 AM
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“The sage shuns excess, shuns grandiosity, shuns arrogance.”

~ Lao Tzu
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 21, 19 10:51 PM
@ bigfresh et al.

Not even the Catholic Church believed that all abortions were murder until the 19th century when Pius IX reversed nearly two thousand years of dogmatic teaching that abortion early in the pregnancy, while a grievous sin, was not murder because the fetus had not yet achieved personhood.

Pius IX also declared himself infallible and went around knocking the phalli off nude, male, Renaissance statues.

Y'all have a lot in common.

By highhatsize (4117), East Quogue on Apr 21, 19 9:27 AM
on easter sunday they show their true evil, i do not even feel compelled to argue with such puke anymore. lord have mercy on your souls
By Erin 27 E (1225), hampton bays on Apr 21, 19 10:34 AM
So don't. Simply vote your conscience at the polling booth like the rest of us and let the cards fall where they may.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 21, 19 10:40 AM
Today's deaths from climate change = 0
Today's deaths from islamic imperialism = 138

Suicide bombers kill 207 in Easter Sunday terror attack on Christians in Sri Lanka: Terrorists hit churches and five-star hotels leaving Americans and Britons among the dead as TV chef and her daughter are named as first victims

Moslem Jihad. 150+ dead. 600 injured.

Will there be a world-wide self-flagellation meltdown a la Christchurch?

Not a hope in hell.

Cries ...more
By 27dan (2753), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 21, 19 10:40 AM
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If we don't change the path we're on climate change could kill everybody.


Earth Day 2019: High temperatures, rising waters, wild weather — who is to blame? We are.

Doyle Rice and Elizabeth Weise, USA TODAY Published 9:12 a.m. ET April 21, 2019 | Updated 9:13 a.m. ET April 21, 2019

Carbon dioxide is the most prevalent among all greenhouse gases produced by human activities, attributed to the burning of fossil fuels.

The atmospheric carbon dioxide level ...more
Apr 21, 19 11:40 AM appended by Mr. Z
Extreme events exacerbated by climate change killed almost 250 Americans and cost the nation at least $91 billion in 2018, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 21, 19 11:40 AM
Notice all investigations about Notre Dame have gone silent......MSM has dropped that hot potato already! - Now again the radicals in the religion of hate strike at the heart of Christianity and the entire liberal communist establishment will look the other way.....disgraceful - disgusting - shocking and perverse.

Perhaps 0bama can give a speech about Muslims clinging to their suicide vests and their Korans.
By Ditch Bum (840), Water Mill on Apr 21, 19 10:44 AM
"Paris prosecutors are investigating if an electrical short-circuit caused the fire that ripped through the cathedral.

A judicial source told CNN on Thursday that 'we are not excluding any hypothesis at this stage,' saying that this is not their only line of inquiry."

They think it was a shot circuit but aren't excluding other possibilities. The story is constantly in the news.

What do you know that investigators don't, bum?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 21, 19 10:52 AM
Ditch bum, it’s called a news cycle, you call it another conspiracy theory.As to your Obama comment, your still clown.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 21, 19 10:54 AM
French government is considering "modern architects" visions for the charred remains of Notre Dame, proposing that it should not be faithfully restored, but rebuilt with “contemporary” features such as a glass roof, steel spire, or even a minaret.Whatever they decide to do it will be a huge exercise in virtue signaling and will end up being transformed into a 'multi-faith' cathedral with special emphasis on being Islam fawning.. A minaret atop Notre Dame??? Only when every mosque on ...more
By Ditch Bum (840), Water Mill on Apr 21, 19 11:01 AM
Still clinging to superstition, ignorance, and fear I see.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 21, 19 11:45 AM
Hey bum, in your version of Christianity, how strongly does god feel about notre dame's roof?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 21, 19 11:49 AM
"I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

- Jesus Christ
By Undocumented Democrat (1982), southampton on Apr 21, 19 12:01 PM
Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned.

~ Buddha
Apr 21, 19 12:06 PM appended by Mr. Z
I was born into the world as the king of truth for the salvation of the world. ~ Buddha
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 21, 19 12:06 PM
Thank you, God, for letting me be born and allowing me to live long enough to finally finally realize that my simple parents were right about life and eternity; and the wiseguys in media and education that we trusted were so very wrong.

Thank you for Your Son. We all have the dignity of choosing or rejecting Him.

He is risen indeed!

Happy Easter Christians!

Keep your heads up and your powder dry my fellow Americans
By joe hampton (3382), The Hamptons on Apr 21, 19 12:09 PM
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Work out your own salvation. Do not depend on others.

~ Buddha
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 21, 19 12:20 PM
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3:16
By Undocumented Democrat (1982), southampton on Apr 21, 19 12:39 PM
“When the student is ready the teacher will appear. When the student is truly ready... The teacher will Disappear.”

~ Tao Te Ching
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 21, 19 9:28 PM
.... for those who say there are "haters" here, you are mistaken. Many here do not hate people because of their race, religion or nationality but do not want people here who practice hate against us in our own land. Hate begets hate.

If someone says they will not obey our laws because they are not "God's laws" (of course according to their god) or believes in a doctrine that it is not only right but necessary to kill those who disagree with them, they do NOT belong in western countries ...more
By They call me (2732), southampton on Apr 21, 19 12:30 PM
Can you give an example of someone here saying they will disregard American laws based on their religious beliefs?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 21, 19 4:51 PM
Certainly there are haters here Tcm. They purposefully disregard the separation of thought and paragraph to cloud the discussion.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 21, 19 6:55 PM
Such as those who can't give a single example of the issue they rant against?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 21, 19 7:10 PM
Here we go again , Chomsky: By Focusing On Russia, Democrats Handed Trump A "Huge Gift" And Possibly The 2020 Election.

He is right now stop playing games and run on something already

dam it !
By local 84 (341), riverhead on Apr 21, 19 12:50 PM
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Spare us, fake democrat.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 21, 19 4:48 PM
Democrats can't run on something of substance The hate runs too deep.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 21, 19 6:50 PM
Hey Po, welcome back! I'll grant you that most democrats running for president are framing the next presidential election as a referendum on Trump rather than their own ideas.

That's one reason I like Andrew Yang, whose platform isn't about Trump but the technological reality that mass job losses will happen sooner rather than later thanks to widespread automation, and suggests we affirmatively deal with it today rather than react tomorrow.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 21, 19 7:23 PM
A thread that, from the true believer corner, is composed of nothing but delusional ravings devoid of any fact whatsoever.

Just as I predicted, Ditch Bum, absent any actual evidence that even suggests that his fantasy has substance, is STILL trying to assign culpability for the Notre Dame fire to the Muslims.

Ismlamophobia. Is it in the DSM? It SHOULD be. Risperidone could enable these lunatics to lead normal lives.
By highhatsize (4117), East Quogue on Apr 21, 19 6:33 PM
Evidence?

"Stopped flow of tapes from Russia but not sure if there's anything else. Just so you know...."

~ Giorgi Rtskhiladze in a message to Michael Cohen regarding tapes held by Crocus Group: October 30, 2016

Source: Mueller Report
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 22, 19 7:08 PM
$35 million dollars for a 200 page report by Mueller for a phony collusion charge against a duly elected president. Beginning because one single woman was a sore loser. Hillary.

For almost 3 years we’ve had to endure endless investigations, conspiracy theories and a constant and fierce assault from all of MSM and Hollywood. From the senior levels of the FBI on down, this president has had to endure more than most, if not all. THESE are the ones who interfered in the 2016 election. ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (563), Riverhead on Apr 21, 19 10:58 PM
How many crimes did the investigation uncover?

Why don't you want to drain the swamp anymore?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 21, 19 11:10 PM
No conspiracy.

Plenty of collusion.


"If it's what you say, I love it."
Manafort-Kilimnik
Seychelles-Prince
The Server Troika (Alfa Bank - dedicated PA server - Spectrum Health)

"If Woody had gone right to the police, this would never have happened."

~Captain Haddock, Woody Woodpecker: Bunco Busters (1955)

By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 22, 19 7:07 AM
How many crimes??
Not nearly as much as the Republicans should’ve uncovered if they had the opportunity to investigate Obama, Hillary and their people during HIS presidency and her reign as Secretary of State.

And it’s NOT EVEN CLOSE.
By DiseaseDiocese (563), Riverhead on Apr 21, 19 11:27 PM
How many hearings were there on Benghazi?

How many hearings were there on the uranium deal?

How long did Hillary testify under oath?

How long did Trump do the same?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 21, 19 11:41 PM
Since 1969, Republican presidential administrations have 121 criminal indictments and 89 convictions, while Democrats have had 3 and 1 respectively.

Even when we standardize it by getting annual averages, GOP administrations still have 29 times more indictments, 64 times more convictions, and 24 times more prison sentences.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 22, 19 1:00 AM
Not nearly as much? Good answer. Keep trying diseased.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 22, 19 5:12 AM
Why is it that the GOP seems to attract criminals into their lot? A lot of criminals...
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 22, 19 6:50 PM
4 times the deaths than New Zealand. So we should see 4 times the coverage, but we don't. just watch how quickly this Muslim atrocity is buried by some sad story about "Islamophobia".
By Ditch Bum (840), Water Mill on Apr 22, 19 7:55 AM
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By joe hampton (3382), The Hamptons on Apr 22, 19 7:58 AM
Joe, trying to get a job as on breitbart as an opinion writer? Keep up your crazy posts, little brother is watching.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 22, 19 8:44 AM
It's a lot like WWII. It's so distant, people don't find themselves needing to be involved. Until Pearl Harbor. It took events like Saddam invading Kuwait, or 9/11 for us to open up some serious cans of whoopa$$ in the Middle East, now didn't it?

Those who fail to learn history can't understand the world.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 22, 19 7:00 PM
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By Ditch Bum (840), Water Mill on Apr 22, 19 8:03 AM
Obama Administration Was Corrupt, More and More Evidence Reveals Daily.

“....Unfortunately for America, it didn’t turn out that way. As more and more evidence is revealed daily on the evening news, it is now very clear the Obama administration was the most corrupt presidency in the history of the republic.

As Mr. Obama’s favorite, President Abraham Lincoln, warned us, the most dangerous threats can come from domestic enemies.

First of all, that bit about ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (563), Riverhead on Apr 22, 19 8:46 AM
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So despite countless hearings led by Republicans and testimony under oath by democrats, they STILL couldn't find a single criminal charge?

I understand you feel like the Obama administration committed a bunch of crimes, but facts don't care about your feelings.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 22, 19 9:46 AM
Well, according to the Mueller report gross incompetence is the only thing which saved Trump and his clan from criminal charges. Apparently governing is above Trump's pay grade.

Ask Don McGahn about the "crazy s**t" which led to his resignation...
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 22, 19 8:13 PM
Good job diseased, keep pushing nonsense. All this is a deflection from the worst president in history , trump . Keep up the “ whataboutisms”, shows your true colors.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 22, 19 9:09 AM
Fake news CNN and rest of MSM offering no word on which group of people committed the heinous crime in Sri Lanka. It’s as if it didn’t happen. Death toll up to 290. New Zealand was minor compared to this, yet MSM wouldn’t stop reporting on it for weeks.
To top it off, we have Barry and Hillary referring to the victims as “Easter worshipers” to hide the fact that this was a Islamic crime against CHRISTIANITY. That’s what you liberals vote for. America hating, ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (563), Riverhead on Apr 22, 19 10:59 AM
“That’s what you liberals vote for. America hating, white people hating, Christian hating, men hating pieces of garbage. “ diseased, you gotta get out more.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 22, 19 12:13 PM
Yeah totally. Left wing hate, lol

GOP lawmaker busted for conspiring with right-wing extremists to commit violent attacks on liberal activists: report

On Saturday, The Guardian reported that Washington State Rep. Matt Shea, a Republican representing Spokane, engaged with far-right extremists on the private messaging app Signal, proposing surveillance, "psyops" campaigns, and violent attacks on liberal activists. Operating under the screen name "Verum Bellator" (true warrior), Shea ...more
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 22, 19 12:34 PM
Diseased, no word on who did it , they don’t know yet . Feel free to put who who ever you think done it.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 22, 19 11:17 AM
Yes they do.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 22, 19 11:18 AM
Didn’t as of an hr ago
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 22, 19 11:25 AM
But we did when you posted "no word on who did it, they don't know yet."
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 23, 19 9:38 AM
< FACE OF SRI LANKA MASTERMIND?
Islamic Militants Behind Easter Attacks...
85 detonators found at bus station...
HUNDREDS DEAD...
CHAOS IN COLOMBO...
PRIOR INFORMATION...
GOVT SHUTS SOCIAL MEDIA...
USA warns terrorists continue to plot attacks...
New Holy War?
Churches Have Become #1 Target...
Apr 22, 19 12:29 PM appended by They call me
UNCONFIRMED REPORTS BLAME ZAHRAN HASHIM FOR SRI LANKA ATTACK. WHO IS HE? An Islamist extremist imam, he was a prolific lecturer for National Tawheed Jamaath.
By They call me (2732), southampton on Apr 22, 19 12:29 PM
Hey is that you in your avatar?nice beard
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 22, 19 12:35 PM
"Trump sues in bid to block congressional subpoena of financial records" by David A. Fahrenthold & Rachael Bade (The Washington Post, April 22, 2019)

Gee, WHY, one wonders? Uncharitable observers might almost think that The Donald has something to hide. (Especially, since all presidents and presidential candidates - - - except The Donald - - - have been transparent about their finances for the last four decades.)

Is there evidence therein of fraud and tax evasion? Surely not!



By highhatsize (4117), East Quogue on Apr 22, 19 1:56 PM
Pure nonsense HHS. Here’s a little quote from Michelle Bachmann, "He is highly biblical, and I would say to your listeners, we will in all likelihood never see a more godly, biblical president again in our lifetime," she said on the Olive Tree Ministries' radio show "Understanding the Times." How’s that for some godly reasoning about the most godless president?
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 22, 19 2:24 PM
Page 27 of the Mueller report was rather interesting...
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 22, 19 11:15 PM
Battleground Florida: Soros-Funded Groups Work to Register 1.4 Million Ex-Felons Ahead of 2020

By They call me (2732), southampton on Apr 22, 19 6:02 PM
Ex-felons who are legally allowed to vote, right?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 22, 19 6:11 PM
How will the GOP find a way to justify this?

Amazon and 56 other corporations took your tax dollars - Corporations on the dole

Remember the 60 wealthy companies that paid no taxes at all? 57 of them got "refunds" of tax payers dollars totaling $4,300,000,000 because **** you, that's why.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 22, 19 7:22 PM
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ask aoc its above my pay grade
By Erin 27 E (1225), hampton bays on Apr 22, 19 7:53 PM
You mean the same congresswoman who rejected Amazon in her district because they'd be takers rather than givers?

Why would we ask her?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 22, 19 8:01 PM
Asinine attempt at a stupid insult?
Apr 22, 19 8:16 PM appended by Mr. Z
Socialism only sucks when you're not getting a $129 million dollar tax refund...
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 22, 19 8:16 PM
How much in taxes did the employees of the eeeevil corporations pay?
! A company is under no obligation to pay more in taxes that required by law , same as an individual, using every strategy and deduction is perfectly legal, do you pay more than you have to? I certainly do not, our accountant earns his fees and saves us plenty, all legit. Don't forget Komrade, people work for corporations too.
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 22, 19 8:25 PM
And as usual you've completely missed the point.

Socialism only sucks when you're not getting a $129 million dollar tax refund...
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 22, 19 8:42 PM
And your local/state/federal government is equally under no obligation to provide tax breaks that exceed those guaranteed by law, right?

That's why the Amazon deal got a "thanks but no thanks" from many folks.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 22, 19 8:55 PM
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this is why your losing the battle, ny could have used those jobs. for most ny yorkers its about the economy not your silly occupy wall street ideology. aoc blew it and she knows it!

cuomo is a wise azz fool who will reap what he sows and the bartender blew it and is a laughing stock almost a big a fool as mad maxine
By Erin 27 E (1225), hampton bays on Apr 22, 19 11:05 PM
Cuomo is a corporatist who would have bent over backwards for Amazon and AOC got her bluff called so if her constituents vote her out she deserves it, but the greatest city in the world doesn't need Amazon to continue being the greatest city in the world.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 22, 19 11:23 PM
Jobs at what price? Fleecing the taxpayers? Looks like that cost 4.3 billion last year, and the second largest drop in Federal tax receipts since the Great Depression. Just in case you missed it, a tax refund you didn't overpay to receive is socialism. Everybody pays for that.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 22, 19 11:31 PM
Mr Z , Never met a tax or government program he didn't like
By Ditch Bum (840), Water Mill on Apr 23, 19 9:46 AM
Oh but your wrong... all the takers hate one tax ...

Property Tax !
By joe hampton (3382), The Hamptons on Apr 23, 19 11:07 AM
You just can't fix stupid.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 23, 19 7:29 PM
Reading
Is
Fundamental

14 Mueller Report Takeaways You Might Have Missed

Arrett M. Graffe - WIRED
Security
04.22.1903:21 PM

1. This was as much a counterintelligence investigation as a criminal one. One of the new details in the report is that the FBI “embedded” approximately 40 personnel in the Special Counsel’s Office. Their role was not to contribute to the criminal probe, but instead to pore over the collected materials and pass written ...more
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 22, 19 11:44 PM
So in your opinion a business or , gasp , a corporation getting to keep more of IT'S OWN MONEY in return for setting up business in a city is somehow wrong? Tell that to the 25 K New Yorkers who will not be working for Amazon , tell that to the folks who watched their home prices skyrocket in anticipation of the Amazon building, how about the ancillary businesses and jobs that would have been created? Anti capitalism on full display.
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 23, 19 6:09 AM
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That's why you miss the f*****g point. They're not just keeping they're own money. They're getting a refund on the taxpayer dole.

"Right wing" = obtuse
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 23, 19 7:26 PM
Hey Fore, should the Boston Marathon bomber be allowed to vote?

Get ready for some more Liberal logic folks..,
By DiseaseDiocese (563), Riverhead on Apr 23, 19 6:34 AM
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That's a straw man because he hasn't paid for his crimes.

In my opinion, people who have paid their debt to society should be allowed to vote.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 23, 19 6:50 AM
But you're not running for President, Bernie is.

It's not straw man at all.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 23, 19 9:23 AM
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Does Bernie think people in prison should be able to vote?

Even if he did (he doesn't) wouldn't I be able to disagree?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 23, 19 10:35 AM
Didn't Bernie not make the fact that he does think people in prison should vote clear during his town hall yesterday when pressed on whether it was appropriate to enfranchise sex offenders or someone convicted of a heinous crime like Tsarnaev, who with his brother carried out the 2013 Boston Marathon bombing that left three dead and injured hundreds more?

""Yes, even for terrible people, because once you start chipping away and you say, 'Well, that guy committed a terrible crime, not going ...more
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 23, 19 1:24 PM
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Fair enough. I disagree with Bernie.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 23, 19 6:32 PM
So, in your scenario, a radical Muslim extremist would be allowed to vote for the obvious Democrat after he has paid his debt to the society that he wishes to maim, kill, and harm because his God and his Book told him so?

Be carful now. You might show your true Anti-American colors. Choose your wording wisely...like you did in your last post.

Liberals. Funny creatures, aren’t they?
By DiseaseDiocese (563), Riverhead on Apr 23, 19 9:15 AM
Diseased, that’s a cutting edge question? That’s a clown question bro, to quote Bryce Harper. The way you think is way more scary then anything I can think of.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 23, 19 10:10 AM
I don't think an American's right to vote should be revoked for mere beliefs, whether that person sympathizes with ISIS or the KKK.

I also don't think that people who commit terrorist acts ever pay their debt to society because their prison sentences never end.

Unless you can point me to a particular person who committed a terrorist act and is now or may be allowed to vote in the future after paying their debt to society, I'm going to keep calling your argument about terrorists ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 23, 19 10:47 AM
You feel terrorists should have the right to vote if released from prison but nobody cares about your feelings
By Ditch Bum (840), Water Mill on Apr 23, 19 10:50 AM
Are terrorists ever released from prison?

You also butchered the quote. It's "facts don't care about your feelings."

Such as the fact that many people agree with me that people who have paid their debt to society should be allowed to vote.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 23, 19 10:57 AM
Yes, terrorists are released from prison. Some even go on to be professors at universities and associates of a former president.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 23, 19 1:00 PM
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Like who? Name just one American who was convicted of a violent terrorist act against Americans and was subsequently released.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 23, 19 6:38 PM
Bill Ayers committed terrorism and helped Barak Hussein start his political 'career'. That maggot is out of prison!
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 24, 19 6:29 AM
What was Ayers convicted of and how long was he in prison? Does he still have a felony conviction on his record?one more thing genius, it’s Barack Obama . Waiting for a legitimate citation, which will never come.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 24, 19 6:52 AM
It never ceses to amaze me how an individual can consistantly be on the wrong side of everything ?

Ayers was a founder of the Weatherman terror group and he defined its purpose as carrying out murder.from Discover the Networks:
Characterizing Weatherman as “an American Red Army,” Ayers summed up the organization’s ideology as follows: “Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, Kill your parents.”

Between ...more
Apr 24, 19 9:08 AM appended by Ditch Bum
and it is technically Barack Hussein Obama II or Barack Hussein Obama Soetoro Sobarkah or ?
By Ditch Bum (840), Water Mill on Apr 24, 19 9:08 AM
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Pay attention Ditch: what was he convicted of?

This conversation is about voting rights for ex-felons, stay on topic.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 24, 19 9:16 AM
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What was he convicted of? How much prison time did he serve? For the record, I’m not defending Ayers, just calling you two on your bs.for the record, you are still a conspiracy theory pushing clown.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 24, 19 9:35 AM
Bombs, shrapnel and armed robbery...oh my...
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 24, 19 10:54 AM
Please focus, Po: If he's not an ex-felon, how is he relevant to the conversation about voting rights for ex-felons?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 24, 19 11:05 AM
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@ Fore1gnBornHBgrown

The topic under discussion is irrelevant to the response of a true believer.

He will use any conversation, however unrelated to his idées fixes, as a springboard for the braying of his mindless cant.

(And then vanish when called on to justify his behavior.)
By highhatsize (4117), East Quogue on Apr 24, 19 11:44 AM
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Ah, the Bitter Clingers....Vanish? Moi? Irrelevent? I think not.

Simply highlighting the relevance of the "antics" of the Weather Underground and it's members - at least of which - is a convicted felon (and terrorist) - who was let out of prison.
Apr 24, 19 12:30 PM appended by Po Boy
...at least *one of which (but there are several)* - ...
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 24, 19 12:30 PM
Who was convicted of what?

Please be specific.
Apr 25, 19 6:52 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Well that's not very specific. "Go google my point for me" lol.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 24, 19 6:52 PM
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Wikipedia

Weather Underground
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 25, 19 8:13 AM
@ Po Boy

Intellectual torpor and meretricious citation.

Do some work, Po Boy.

Tell us how the referenced article supports your exemplification of Bill Ayers, a man who was never convicted of a felony, as the sort of ex-con to whom voting rights should not be restored.
By highhatsize (4117), East Quogue on Apr 25, 19 8:37 AM
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LMAO... How about you do some work there hat.

Did I say anything about Bill Ayers?
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 25, 19 10:27 AM
I did challenge you to name just one American who was convicted of a violent terrorist act against Americans and was subsequently released, which you failed to do, so there's that.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 25, 19 10:35 AM
No, you didn't ask me "to name just one American who was convicted of a violent terrorist act". Please focus Fore.

You challenged me to name "Who was convicted of what?" to my statement "at least of which - is a convicted felon (and terrorist) - who was let out of prison."

So there's that on that.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 25, 19 11:02 AM
@ Po Boy

Your post followed Ditch Bum's specific identification of "[Bill] Ayers ... of the 'Weatherman terror group'" as an (erroneous) example of an ex-con whose voting rights had been restored. (That's what this conversation is about.) In reference to Ditch Bum's comment you posted "Bombs, shrapnel and armed robbery...oh my...", implying that Ayers had been found guilty of violent crimes when he had not. You then used this deceitful implication as a pretext to decry the character ...more
By highhatsize (4117), East Quogue on Apr 25, 19 11:33 AM
And we're off...LMAO...And the examples you cite, ALL followed: "Yes, terrorists are released from prison. Some even go on to be professors at universities and associates of a former president.
By Po Boy (3891), Water Mill on Apr 23, 19 1:00 PM"

Which was response to this [edited for brevity]:
"Are terrorists ever released from prison?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6253), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 23, 19 10:57 AM"

NOWHERE did I mention Bill Ayers. Are you saying Bill Ayers was ...more
Apr 25, 19 12:16 PM appended by Po Boy
"to decry the character of the Weather Underground" Uh, my big headed friend, the Weather Underground was a known terrorist group.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 25, 19 12:16 PM
No one is defending the weather Underground, you are being called out on your post.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 25, 19 1:00 PM
Po: I think you should re-read my comment on Apr 23, 19 6:38 PM.

I certainly did challenge you to name one (just one!) American who was convicted of a violent terrorist act against Americans and was subsequently released, which you failed to do, so there's that.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 25, 19 7:59 PM
Democrats have been reading the polls, and they know they have to get the criminal vote to have a chance at winning in 2020.
By They call me (2732), southampton on Apr 23, 19 9:52 AM
@ DiseaseDiocese (& They call me & Po Boy & Ditch Bum)

Just as it did with pushing voter id laws, the Right-Wing seeks to strip citizens of their precious right to vote for crass political purposes, using, in this case, a transparent straw man fallacy.

The fact is that true believers want to empower a Thought Police ("1984") to suppress those whom they believe will vote against their despotic, bigoted agenda. They pursued this strategy so blatantly in Florida that that state's ...more
By highhatsize (4117), East Quogue on Apr 23, 19 10:54 AM
There's plenty of valid reasons for believing that ex-felons shouldn't be allowed to vote.

Diseased et al just need to convince enough people that those reasons outweigh the rationale for restoring voting rights to people who have paid their debt to society.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 23, 19 11:01 AM
Just look at how desperate some of you are to assuage your TDS
By joe hampton (3382), The Hamptons on Apr 23, 19 11:11 AM
Ad hominem is a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby genuine discussion of the topic at hand is avoided by instead attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 23, 19 11:14 AM
Projection Alert!

Just imagine if Democrats thought illegals would vote Republican.

We'd have walls going up faster than hat could use the thesaurus.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 23, 19 12:12 PM
The Dems would let Charlie Manson vote from his new home in Hell.
By themarlinspike (430), Northern Hemisphere on Apr 23, 19 1:16 PM
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@ Po Boy (& Erin 27 E)

Spoken like a morally bankrupt true believer. You assume that everyone is as unethical as you.

It's not so, Po Boy. It's also not true that the NORMALLY literate need have recourse to a thesaurus.

If you would occasionally talk to some folks other than your contemptible, low-low colleagues you wouldn't make such revelatory, self-defining boo-boos.
By highhatsize (4117), East Quogue on Apr 23, 19 2:50 PM
"Houston, we have a problem".

Monday during a CNN town hall event from New Hampshire, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), a candidate for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination was asked about giving convicted felons the ability to vote.

Among those the questioner included was the Boston Marathon bomber and those that were guilty of sexual assault.

Sanders argued they indeed Should Be Allowed to Vote from Prison !

The democrats view criminals as one of their main ...more
By 27dan (2753), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 23, 19 5:33 PM
Po: please point me to where I used ad hominem. Thanks!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 23, 19 6:34 PM
They can't. And, they're too stupid to realize they are/have become what this country rebelled against.

Neofeudalism is a stinky cologne...
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 23, 19 7:39 PM
Democrats see nothing wrong with dead people and illegals voting so why not terrorists.
By Undocumented Democrat (1982), southampton on Apr 24, 19 2:07 AM
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Par for the course.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 24, 19 10:16 AM
You were right, Z. They can't.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 24, 19 10:24 AM
Here's how stupid Democrats are:
They LOST a presidential debate they rigged
They LOST an election they rigged
They LOST an investigation they rigged
By They call me (2732), southampton on Apr 23, 19 11:26 AM
~ giggle ~
By Erin 27 E (1225), hampton bays on Apr 23, 19 12:20 PM
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Riiight.

"Stopped flow of tapes from Russia but not sure if there's anything else. Just so you know...."

~ Giorgi Rtskhiladze in a message to Michael Cohen regarding tapes held by Crocus Group: October 30, 2016

Source: Mueller Report, page 27
Apr 23, 19 7:33 PM appended by Mr. Z
If Trump does win re-election in 2020, America will finally reach peak stupid. Supporting malfeasance is stupid. Supporting corruption is stupid. Denying anthropogenic climate change IS STUPID. Pandering and modifying your views to garner votes? Well, that's just a hypocrite appealing to the gullible, and the stupid...
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 23, 19 7:33 PM
TCM, Yeah this comment makes you look like a genius .rigged election, can you post a citation backing that up. Remember, proof not an opinion piece. Take your time, you have to eternity.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 23, 19 11:40 AM
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The Mueller report has some citations about a rigged election. Plenty of collusion, just no criminal charge of conspiracy.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 23, 19 7:34 PM
They LOST a presidential debate they rigged
They LOST an election they rigged
They LOST an investigation they rigged

Spring is here

And our amazing President Trump still has 5 1/2 more years to go

Life is wonderful !
By Undocumented Democrat (1982), southampton on Apr 23, 19 5:20 PM
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You really should read the Mueller report.

Apparently, gross incompetence and borderline stupidity is the only thing which saved Trump and his clan from criminal charges. Apparently governing is above Trump's pay grade.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 23, 19 7:31 PM
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Remind us again who the criminals are? Stupid is, as stupid does.

Since 1969, Republican presidential administrations have 121 criminal indictments and 89 convictions, while Democrats have had 3 and 1 respectively.

Even when we standardize it by getting annual averages, GOP administrations still have 29 times more indictments, 64 times more convictions, and 24 times more prison sentences.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 23, 19 7:35 PM
It's good to be a Democrat.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 24, 19 10:17 AM
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha !!!!!!
By themarlinspike (430), Northern Hemisphere on Apr 24, 19 10:31 AM
US MARKETS
S&P 500 and Nasdaq rally to record closing highs after strong earnings from broad range of companies Dow Jones Industrial Average, meanwhile, gained 145.34 points to close at 26,656.39 and was 1.1% from an all-time high.
PUBLISHED TUE, APR 23 2019 • 1:56 AM EDT UPDATED 4 HOURS AGO

MEGA MAGA BOOM !
By 27dan (2753), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 23, 19 8:15 PM
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Coattail effect. And, supply side economic effect:

"We’ve got to get rid of the $19 trillion in debt. ... Well, I would say over a period of eight years. And I’ll tell you why.”

Sources: Remarks during a Washington Post interview

As of December 31, 2018, debt held by the public was $16.1 trillion and intragovernmental holdings were $5.87 trillion, for a total or "National Debt" of $21.97 trillion.

Those who fail to learn from history sometimes ...more
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 24, 19 3:06 AM
"It depends on how aggressive you want to be," Trump said. "I'd rather not be so aggressive. Don't forget: We have to rebuild the infrastructure of our country. We have to rebuild our military, which is being decimated by bad decisions. We have to do a lot of things."

Source: April 2016 interview with Fortune, softening the promise he would be able to get rid of the $19 trillion in debt in 8 years.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 24, 19 1:01 PM
Pointless poppycock and tripe.

The same style tax cuts that during the Reagan administration tripled the national debt.

Those who fail to learn from history...
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 24, 19 1:22 PM
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"Softening the promise" lol.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 24, 19 6:53 PM
Why is it pointless to point out the evolution of a position?...other than, it doesn't support your outdated excerpt?

"Obama 'softens' Jerusalem stance", lol. Just to pick one...

Like the "it's complicated" rating given to Obama for doubling the debt, President Trump is equally subject to "it's complicated."
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 25, 19 8:03 AM
I'd distinguish between a "softening" and an outright reversal.

Granted, anyone who really thought Trump was going to get rid of the national debt in eight years is a moron anyway.
Apr 25, 19 9:22 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
And when did Obama promise to get rid of the national debt in eight years? Feel free to take your time citing that doozy.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 25, 19 9:22 AM
You are entitled a differing of opinion on the softening terminology as Politifact refereed to it. But his statements are what they are. He's not the first president to soften or evolve on a statement or position.

By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 25, 19 10:26 AM
Certainly not, and other presidents should be equally called out.

For example, president Obama's stance on closing guantanamo was softened when he failed to reduce the number of detainees to zero.

A reversal would be to increase the number of detainees, which is what Trump did to the national debt.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 25, 19 10:34 AM
Politifact thinks otherwise of your assessment.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 25, 19 10:55 AM
But do you understand the logic?

A softening is a failure to reach zero.

A reversal is increasing the figure rather than decreasing it.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 25, 19 8:01 PM
Take it up with Politifact.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 26, 19 3:46 PM
So you don't understand the logic? Let's use another example then.

If I say "I'm going to stop this car" a softening would be to slow down without stopping, whereas a reversal would be to speed up.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 26, 19 8:11 PM
That is apparently, and for what it's worth, your opinion.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on May 1, 19 12:33 PM
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Now you're getting it!

You certainly don't have to follow my logic, I'm just sharing it with you to see if you can understand it.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on May 1, 19 12:40 PM
Something is up...All the snakes are slithering out of the pit.

USA USA USA Trump 2020 Land Slide!!!
By Ditch Bum (840), Water Mill on Apr 24, 19 2:15 AM
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Trump's approval among Republicans is in the 93% range.... Kasich has No Hope and would amount to nothing more than a personal ego trip! PATHETIC!

IN TRUMP WE TRUST !
By 27dan (2753), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 24, 19 5:06 PM
Longtime Iowa Republican Blasts Trump And Leaves Party For Democrats.
NPR, Apr 24, 2019.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 24, 19 7:01 PM
At least he has the guts to show his Democrat true color. I hope he takes Romney and the other RINO's with him.

"McKean said he will most likely run for re-election as a Democrat in 2020."

Good Luck!
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 25, 19 8:11 AM
Our tent is big enough; the more the merrier.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 25, 19 10:38 AM
Klown car, too.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 25, 19 11:08 AM
Clown votes count just the same, as we learned in 2016.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 25, 19 9:34 PM
Trumps approval rating at 40% soaring!!!....Reuter’s
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 24, 19 5:23 PM
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President Trump !
By joe hampton (3382), The Hamptons on Apr 24, 19 7:00 PM
@ Po Boy

Quote:

"AGAIN... Did I say I was referring to Bill Ayers? Pssst, because I wasn't."

"Yes, terrorists are released from prison. Some even go on to be professors at universities and associates of a former president."
----------------------------

Truly, you are shameless. If this was not an ignorant reference to Bill Ayers, to whom are you referring? Your true believer lodge brother, bigfresh, (and every other reader) certainly recognized him.
-------------------------------
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...more
By highhatsize (4117), East Quogue on Apr 26, 19 9:03 AM
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To be fair, Po wasn't the one who invoked Bill Ayers, he was apparently just jumping to defend those who did.

What we do know is Po can't name a single American convicted of a violent terrorist act against other Americans who was subsequently released from prison, and in all fairness I can't either.

The relevance of Bill Ayers, who is not an ex-con, to the conversation about voting rights for ex-cons remains a mystery, but that's a question for BF, not Po.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 26, 19 9:13 AM
I-DID-NOT-MENTION-BILL-AYERS.

While you people change the narrative to fit the message you'd like to spew. The topic is:

Are terrorists ever released from prison?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6258), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 23, 19 10:57 AM

The answer is YES.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 26, 19 10:44 AM
No need to yell. It's clear you didn't say his name, but you did stumble into a conversation about him if you didn't realize.

As to your one-word answer, can you elaborate with an example?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 26, 19 11:01 AM
Po, seen this article on Wednesday, it reinforces your stand on building trumps “wall”. From Texas Observer ...Joseph Jarvis knows the U.S.-Mexico border wall more intimately than most. A 71-year-old contractor who works in engineering and construction, Jarvis oversaw the fabrication and installation of a short stretch of border wall near Brownsville in 2011, along with a number of electronic access gates. A Mexican immigrant himself, Jarvis steers clear of politics when he talks about ...more
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 26, 19 11:58 AM
Stumble into a conversation about him you say Fore? LMAO...the discussion that everyone latched onto based on my post was never about Ayers in my mind but it sure was warm.

And Fred, yes, everyone has an opinion. Some just hold more wieght than others and people will latch onto the opinion they're beholden to. The PROBLEM with the opinion you provided beides it being void of ANY substance as to what wal he is referring to, is the TYPE of wall then is NOT the type of wall being built ...more
Apr 26, 19 2:22 PM appended by Po Boy
And Fred, if I misunderstood the intent of the article, my apology. I now see you said it reinforces my position on the trump wall.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 26, 19 2:22 PM
Correct Po, it was was the contractors opinion, and a relevant one. It shows walls work, for at least 30 seconds .
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 26, 19 2:25 PM
It points out the absurdity of believing a wall is a cure all for anything. To add, the dr. analogy is just lame. No one has ever argued trumps “wall” is curing anything , it’s a stupid campaign promise that means nothing.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 26, 19 2:34 PM
Thought that was your point.

Except for the inconvenient fact that walls work and Border Patrol endrses them as part of their tool kit because they help utilize resources more effectively. No one ever said they were a cure all (except for Democrats spinning it)...especially the type built in 2011.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 26, 19 2:52 PM
Walls Work
Release Date: December 12, 2018 DHS/CBP News Release
WE ARE BUILDING THE FIRST NEW BORDER WALL IN A DECADE.

"DHS is committed to building a wall at our southern border and building a wall quickly. Under this President, we are building a new wall for the first time in a decade that is 30-feet high to prevent illegal entry and drug smuggling.

FACT: Prior to President Trump taking office, we have never built a border wall that high.

Once funding was provided, ...more
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 26, 19 3:24 PM
Very good, as the contractor pointed out, it’s 5 more seconds to go over the extra height. Still idiotic to think it’s going to stem the flow of drugs or humans. Only thing it will do is disrupt animals age old migration routes.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 26, 19 3:41 PM
Yeah, you're right Fred. Border Patrol doesn't know what it's talking about.

- see part about old construction standard....

You and the contractor know best.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 26, 19 3:45 PM
I never implied I know more then anyone. I posted a relevant story by someone who work on the border wall. He stated how quickly a 60 yr old man could climb over the wall. When asked about trumps wall, his being taller, he replied it would take a few more seconds for the extra height. No one implied they know more then anyone, just that it takes seconds to climb over the 6 billion dollar wall that’s supposed to solve illegal immigration and stem the flow of drugs across the border.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 26, 19 6:14 PM
Hey Po. Why should we take your answer for granted if you can't point to a single example of a convicted terrorist being released from prison?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 26, 19 6:51 PM
Because "convicted terrorist being released from prison" isn't what you initially wrote.

Why should anything you write be taken seriously when you can't have a genuine discussion?

"Are terrorists ever released from prison?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6275), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 23, 19 10:57 AM"

Yes, yes they are. Oooohhh..."convicted of terrorism"...... you now say. Ooooohhhh
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 30, 19 7:54 AM
Yes, in the context of "being released from prison" the word "terrorist" means "person convicted of terrorism."

I thought that was pretty obvious on its face, but there you have it laid out explicitly for your convenience.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 30, 19 8:08 AM
Well yes and no.

In context of "convicted" where you go to prison, the conviction does not have to be for terrorism, even though, you are a terrorist.

Are terrorists ever released from prison? Yes.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 30, 19 9:04 AM
If a person isn't convicted of terrorism, who gets to decide whether they're a terrorist?

I suppose that makes the title of "terrorist" a matter of opinion, but "convicted terrorist" is certainly more black and white so that's why it's the definition I use.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 30, 19 9:33 AM
bombs, property destruction, injuries and death...but alas, if no conviction, you're a model citizen. No, Fore, it's not a matter of opinion. "who gets to decide whether they're a terrorist?" D-U-M-B

But you didn't use "convicted" did you. You wrote: "Are terrorists ever released from prison?"
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 30, 19 11:22 AM
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What's your definition of "terrorist" and do you think everyone agrees that yours is the right one? If not, that makes it an opinion.

In contrast, "convicted terrorist" is black and white: there are criminal statutes and if you're found guilty of them you're a terrorist.

You're right, I didn't say "convicted terrorist" because I thought it was pretty obvious on its face, but there you have it laid out explicitly for your convenience.
Apr 30, 19 11:32 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
I also never called anyone a model citizen. A straw man is an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 30, 19 11:32 AM
My definition is consistent with the U.S. Code of Federal Regulations which defines terrorism as "the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives" (28 C.F.R. Section 0.85).

If you notice, no where is "convicted" mentioned. That is YOUR opinion. Carrying out the elements noted makes you a terrorist until such time you are brought to justice ...more
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 30, 19 11:57 AM
And who decides whether has, in-fact, carried out the elements?

Does everyone gets to make up their own mind in the absence of an official finding?

O-p-i-n-i-o-n
Apr 30, 19 12:06 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
*whether someone has
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 30, 19 12:06 PM
And when the FBI places a terrorist on their most wanted list, they've already been convicted?

You can make up your own mind, live in your bubble, but it just ain't so.

By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 30, 19 2:45 PM
Exactly, even if they're on the FBI's most wanted list they're still not a convicted terrorist.

If you want to dig even deeper, if you're married to the CFR definition, notice that it includes the word "unlawful."

Well...who decides whether someone's conduct is unlawful?

Hint: it starts in a word that rhymes with "curry" and ends in a word that rhymes with "beers."
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 30, 19 3:07 PM
But they ARE a terrorist even if they're on the FBI most wanted list.


"Are terrorists ever released from prison?" you said...

Yes.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on May 1, 19 9:48 AM
You're right, I didn't say "convicted terrorist" because I thought it was pretty obvious in the context of whether they're released from prison or not, but there you have it laid out explicitly for your convenience.

What does the FBI's most wanted list have to do with voting rights for ex-felons, by the way?

Are you suggesting that people who haven't been convicted of a crime should have their voting rights revoked too?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on May 1, 19 9:51 AM
And as you blaze the path to take what I've said, change it, and then deflect for what I didn't say....Did I say anything remotely related to people who haven't been convicted of a crime should have their voting right revoked too or correlate the FBI's most wanted list have to do with voting rights for ex-felons?
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on May 1, 19 10:40 AM
Oh, well when I asked whether [convicted] terrorists are ever released from prison, it was in the context of my belief that people who repay their debt to society should be allowed to vote.

I understand that you want to talk about how I omitted the word "convicted" where it was intended but I'm still talking about voting rights for ex-felons, which is the genesis of discussion.

So to be more specific:

I think suspected terrorists should not have their voting rights revoked ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on May 1, 19 11:04 AM
Ooooohhh, your "intended" point.

Regardless of what you meant to say, what you did say was false.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6288), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 3, 19 11:33 PM

See the logic?
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on May 1, 19 12:36 PM
You're right, I didn't say "convicted terrorist" because I thought it was pretty obvious on its face, but there you have it laid out explicitly for your convenience.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on May 1, 19 12:38 PM
The DOJ doesn't indict sitting presidents. Congress does when warranted.

You just can't fix stupid.

Mueller Prosecutors: Trump Did Obstruct Justice
Murray Waas

Prosecutors working for Special Counsel Robert Mueller concluded last year that they had sufficient evidence to seek criminal charges against President Donald Trump for obstruction of justice over the president’s alleged pressuring of then FBI Director James Comey in February 2017 to shut down an FBI ...more
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 26, 19 1:47 PM
How about indicting leakers. Does the DOJ do that?

"Rather, the two prosecutors disclosed this information in then-confidential conversations with two other federal law enforcement officials, who subsequently recounted what they were told to me."

Any of it corroborated, or is this yet more of the same crap we've seen for the last two years??
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 26, 19 3:41 PM
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If bar wasn't a lying sack of s*** like the president, there'd be no need for them to come forward.

There's also such a thing as the whistleblower law.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 26, 19 4:43 PM
You wouldn't by chance be laying the foundation for negative information on the former administration, now, would you? After all, "Barr is a lying sack of s*** like the president." but yet, we've seen nothing other than two years of lies about the president?
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 29, 19 9:28 PM
Donald Trump: I’m ‘Guilty’ of Being a ‘Great President, and the Democrats Don’t Like It’
Apr 26, 19 5:21 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
Trump is guilty of obstructing socialism.
By Undocumented Democrat (1982), southampton on Apr 26, 19 5:21 PM
Yep. So much winning.

"Are you a Gold Star family? Congratulations, thanks to Trump's tax plan, you're losing your survivors benefits. But hey, at least those billionaires got tax cuts right?"

Gold Star widow "shocked" by new tax bill on sons' survivor benefits
By Janet Shamlian, CBS News April 25, 2019, 6:59 PM

Because a surviving spouse can't receive both Veteran Affairs and Defense Department benefits simultaneously in full, Gold Star parents often sign the taxable ...more
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 27, 19 12:00 PM
3.2 GDP! MAGA! Trump 2020!
By Taz (679), East Quogue on Apr 26, 19 5:25 PM
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Great.

The conclusion that Congress may apply the obstruction laws to the president’s corrupt exercise of the powers of office accords with our constitutional system of checks and balances and the principle that no person is above the law.

[I]f we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the president clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state… The evidence we obtained about the president’s actions and intent presents ...more
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 27, 19 9:16 PM
STOCKS RECORD HIGH
GDP BIG: 3.2%

it's really becoming obvious that President Trump
does have a Magic Wand ...
it's called American Exceptionalism Unleashed

Outlook for the US economy and stock market brightens
By CHRISTOPHER RUGABER and STAN CHOE - AP

By 27dan (2753), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 27, 19 7:10 AM
Got your eye on the wrong target, as usual.

"Put an asterisk next to it as the first quarter expansion was driven by unsustainable inventory accumulation, a temporary narrowing of the trade deficit and a one-time increase in government sponsored construction," said Joe Brusuelas, the chief economist at RSM, a financial-consulting company.

"Real final sales to private domestic purchasers, which exclude purchases by the government, fell to six-year low at 1.3% between January and ...more
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 27, 19 12:06 PM
Excuses excuses. 2019 Q1 @ 3.2 works for me. 3% for all of 2018. MAGA! TRUMP 2020!
By Taz (679), East Quogue on Apr 27, 19 12:11 PM
Has the Recession Been Cancelled?
The strength of the U.S. economy continues to confound the liberal establishment.

By James Freeman
April 26, 2019 4:45 p.m. ET
Wall Street Journal

What would we do without experts? As U.S. workers continue to enjoy a vibrant job market, they should spare a thought for laborers in one category of professional services who remain mired in a multi-year slump. Established manufacturers of Keynesian economic forecasts have entered a prolonged ...more
By 27dan (2753), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 27, 19 5:16 PM
It's disgusting but not surprising that the alt leftists here are unhappy with an improving economy, Orange Man Bad after all!!
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 27, 19 5:51 PM
Orange Mad Bad for coattail riding. And lying. Like a rug. And, screwing Gold Star families. And he did fire Comey over "this Russia thing" and that seriously took on the appearance of a cover up. There were MULTIPLE efforts by the Trump campaign when it comes to contact with Russians. Plenty of suspicious behavior to warrant investigating whether you like it, or not. The bottom line is an adversarial, hostile country not only supported the Republican candidate for president, it made a great ...more
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 27, 19 7:16 PM
P.S. Just for reference. ENJOY!!!


102 CONTACTS WITH RUSSIA-LINKED OPERATIVES

Last Updated February 27, 2019

Below is a comprehensive chronological list of the contacts that have been discovered to date and the lies Trump’s campaign, transition, and White House told to hide them.

The Trump campaign issued at least 15 blanket denials of contacts with Russia, all of which have been proven false.

July 24, 2016: Paul Manafort appeared on ABC’s ...more
Apr 27, 19 7:37 PM appended by Mr. Z
"In total, we have learned of 102 contacts between Trump’s team and Russia linked operatives, including at least 28 meetings. And we know that at least 28 high-ranking campaign officials and Trump advisors were aware of contacts with Russia-linked operatives during the campaign and transition. None of these contacts were ever reported to the proper authorities. Instead, the Trump team tried to cover up every single one of them."
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 27, 19 7:37 PM
Awesome pile of quotes JuneZ. Is it illegal to gather opposition research on an opponent in an election? NO Is it illegal to meet with someone from Russia? NO Any collusion ? NO Any obstruction of justice ? NO Carry on
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 28, 19 8:51 AM
Bs, it’s morally wrong. Morals, don’t something this president lacks. As to the obstruction, we will see, you obviously didn’t read or comprehend the mueller report, which is understandable. More bs , no facts, that’s your m.o.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 28, 19 9:12 AM
If you read the Mueller report, you'd know that it is illegal solicit or knowingly receive a thing of value from a foreign state actor in a federal election.

One of the obstacles the report identified was proving that the assistance received from Russian government actors (which in-fact existed) was valued at $2,000 or more (as required by precedent).
Apr 28, 19 9:13 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Precedent (noun): an earlier event or action that is regarded as an example or guide to be considered in subsequent similar circumstances.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 28, 19 9:13 AM
"required by PRECIDENT"? Just more desperate grasping at straws. President Trump will end up being a 2 term President , despite the attempted coup by the alt left Democrats and their propaganda spewing MSM accomplices. Carry on.
Bitter Freddy, as a vicious defender of abortion on demand you have no standing when it comes to speaking of morals. Carry on.
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 28, 19 9:27 AM
Nice projection bs. Pull up my quote where I said I’m for abortion on demand. As I said before mr high and not mighty, don’t have an abortion if your against it. Your pseudo morals are pathetic.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 28, 19 9:32 AM
This is why history shows CONservatives have such a high conviction rate in presidential administrations. Is it immoral? Yes. Is it illegal? No, or maybe.

Why is it the criminal mind is attracted to the GOP?

And, prosecutors have come forward to say obstruction of justice occurred on the part of the president. Thing is, DOJ policy is not to indict a sitting president. That's a job for Congress.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 28, 19 9:59 AM
Yes, BF. If you had read the Mueller report you'd know that, even though it's not an enumerate requirement written into the law, the precedent (what is "precident"?) is that "a thing of value" must be valued at $2,000 or more.

That was just one obstacle to prosecution of a conspiracy charge; another was the mens rea element, aka prosecutors were not convinced they could demonstrate knowing intent beyond a reasonable doubt.

President Trump may very well be a two-term president. ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 28, 19 11:44 AM
President Trump won the election because the productive members of society were fed up with Barak Hussein Obama's lead from behind, blame America first, anti business, anti capitalism policies, coupled with Hillary being the Democrat Party candidate. She was one of the only candidates that could lose tp Donald Trump and lost the election all on her own.
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 28, 19 2:29 PM
April 27th 2019: Mr Z. loses his mind.
By DiseaseDiocese (563), Riverhead on Apr 27, 19 11:54 PM
April 27th 1974: 10,000 people march on Washington D.C. to demand the impeachment of President Richard Nixon
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 28, 19 10:24 AM
I got that one beat :
August 15-18 1969 : over 400,00 people attend the Woodstock Music Festival !
May 2, 19 11:42 AM appended by themarlinspike
On April 27th 1974 I was busy at work making a living.
By themarlinspike (430), Northern Hemisphere on Apr 28, 19 11:42 AM
More people like rock music than politics? Shocking! Please, tell us more.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 28, 19 11:45 AM
4 more years , 4 more years , 4 more years
Apr 28, 19 12:07 PM appended by They call me
....... In Alec Baldwins character voice : `Very Nice, very very nice, No collusion.... no collusion 4 more` years 4 more years 4 more years... CNN TAPPER ADMITS: TRUMP DID NOT CALL NEO-NAZIS ‘VERY FINE PEOPLE’ IN CHARLOTTESVILLE If CNN continues to tell the truth like this they are going to lose their far left cult followers
By They call me (2732), southampton on Apr 28, 19 12:07 PM
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I agree, there were very fine people and antagonistic jerks on both sides.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 28, 19 12:32 PM
Neo nazis and followers of white supremacy are not good people.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 28, 19 12:36 PM
I agree, but I don't think everyone who showed up to protest the removal of the statue was a neo-nazi or white supremacist.

Likewise, not everyone who showed up to counter-protest was a peace-loving hippie.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 28, 19 12:43 PM
November 8th 2016: All liberals, including Mr Z., lose their minds.
By DiseaseDiocese (563), Riverhead on Apr 27, 19 11:56 PM
Ad hominem, short for argumentum ad hominem, is a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby genuine discussion of the topic at hand is avoided by instead attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 27, 19 11:58 PM
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TDS , short for Trump Derangement Syndrome, is a illness that hard left liberals, anti-trump conservatives, and progressives have. These are very hateful people who cannot have reasonable arguments or conversations about common sense issues. If you encounter someone with Trump Derangement Syndrome, we should go easy on them, they’ve been fed false propaganda and false fallacies. Counter them with “Love”!
By DiseaseDiocese (563), Riverhead on Apr 28, 19 12:36 AM
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Believing everyone who disagrees with you is mentally ill makes it real easy to feel like you're right all the time.

But facts don't care about your feelings.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 28, 19 1:52 AM
Did members of the Trump campaign have contact with foreign nationals of a hostile and adversarial country? Yes.

Did they go to law enforcement regarding it? No.

Did a representative of the Trump campaign share election data with a foreign national from aforementioned country? Yes.

Facts are facts.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 28, 19 10:02 AM
Your facts are wrong and besides, no laws were broken. Ask Bob.

Public polling data? Good lord... give it a rest already.


By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 30, 19 3:00 PM
4 more years , 4 more years , 4 more years

Heee ya !
By They call me (2732), southampton on Apr 28, 19 3:00 AM
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Trump Rallies are accurate polls of this President's popularity, the air was electrified at last nights Gree Bay event ! ; that is why the MSM and traditional pollsters, hate them so much!

Prizefighter Trump K.O.s The Deep State....Comey and Brennan will be the first treasonous rats to get run over by the Indictment Train.

BRAVO #45 !!
DRAIN THE SWAMP !!
Apr 28, 19 12:19 PM appended by 27dan
2020 is going to be a fun Trump victory.
By 27dan (2753), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 28, 19 12:19 PM
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You think Comey and Brennan? I'll take that bet.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 28, 19 12:33 PM
Trumps at 39-40% approval, his rallies do not reflect the general population, lame analogy.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 28, 19 12:38 PM
2016 deplorables will vote for Trump again in 2020+those who see how MAGA worked=He wins the popular vote as well.Keep citing polls, they worked so good for u in 2016. lol
By Taz (679), East Quogue on Apr 28, 19 1:01 PM
I've spoken with several Trump-voters since 2016 who dislike how he's conducted himself as president. None of them would change their vote for Clinton, but some say would vote for Biden if the election was tomorrow.

Obviously that's completely anecdotal, but if you don't like polls that disagree with you then anecdotal evidence is what you get.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 28, 19 1:38 PM
Really ? I have not met any of those type in my daily travels
By Ditch Bum (840), Water Mill on Apr 28, 19 7:04 PM
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Perhaps you should travel more.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 28, 19 11:18 PM
The difference is America has seen exactly how this president acts,He’s a low moral loser. If you are happy with that, good luck.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 28, 19 1:31 PM
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And pray tell which of the freaks that have risen from the Democrat Party cesspool has a chance to beat President Trump?
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 28, 19 3:26 PM
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Regardless, they'd beat you. Good thing you have your precious celebutard.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 28, 19 11:19 PM
I’m glad you have such a high regard for yourself. You are backing a liar, someone with zero morals, and you think he’s the best thing ever. Oh, and you have a good moral compass, put your defroster on, your windows are steamed up.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 28, 19 3:45 PM
You robbed this man 2 years out of his Presidency..... Yet you have a good moral compass? Laughable

Yes We Love Our President And We Wake Each Day Feeling Absolutely Wonderful !
By Ditch Bum (840), Water Mill on Apr 28, 19 7:10 PM
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Yeah, well I do have a moral compass.

That's why the GOP and CONservatives left me. I'm not nearly as liberal as you think...
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 28, 19 11:17 PM
Since 1969, Republican presidential administrations have 121 criminal indictments and 89 convictions, while Democrats have had 3 and 1 respectively. How do you feel about this?
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 28, 19 11:24 PM
Since 1969, Republican presidential administrations have 121 criminal indictments and 89 convictions, while Democrats have had 3 and 1 respectively. How do you feel about this?
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 28, 19 11:24 PM
Well thank you Mr. Quora. Closer look would indicate Democrats simply don't convict one another. Is there any surprise, we already knew this? How do YOU feel about this?

Personally, I don't feel anything. I do however believe like any statistic, you can shade it to fit your point, if you just approach it so. Why since 1969, for example?
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 30, 19 7:44 AM
The thing is...we really don’t have to “love him”. We don’t even have to like him. This is the problem. The liberals vote for the person they’re most enamoured or smitten with. The vote for the good looking people, the liberal Harvard educated, the great public speaker. You know....the guy who dresses nice, sounds like MLK, and looks nothing like Trump. The guy that’s full of bologna. You know the guy! The actor, the actress. The holy man you see on the alter ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (563), Riverhead on Apr 28, 19 11:07 PM
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And everywhere we've backed off from, the former Soviet Union has moved in.

That should disturb you, at least a little bit.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 28, 19 11:16 PM
P.S. That's the MOST idiotic social media post I've read in recent memory. Stupid doesn't even cover it.

Electing Trump is not being smitten by celebrity?

What a f****** joke the lot of you are. Try logic instead of polemics. It would help. A LOT.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 28, 19 11:30 PM
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I do not mind the Soviet Union in those places besides Israel they are are only Allie in the area willing to pull the trigger against against the Islamic State
By 27dan (2753), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 29, 19 2:15 PM
I agree 100 % Putain is a bad guy but the Russian people are not our enemy, radical Islam is !!!
By Ditch Bum (840), Water Mill on Apr 29, 19 2:17 PM
Oh, so now Russia is OK? Now it's MAGA, when you disagreed with me for years that America was not "The Greatest Country on Earth" and there's exactly zero evidence to prove it?

More like you hypocrites and dopes are the best sideshow around.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 29, 19 8:52 PM
"America was (is) not "The Greatest Country on Earth" and there's exactly zero evidence to prove it.

~ Mr. Z

Didn't President Trump run on Make America Great Again? Which positive economic indicator would you like to begin with - it's bigly.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 29, 19 9:24 PM
Thank you mr. Z, diseased is off. He’s our local incel, angry and afraid.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 29, 19 5:17 AM
If you only knew Fred. If you only knew...

Z. We’ve tried logic...and facts. Doesn’t work with you ideologic retrobates. You only like things that are sold to you that are wrapped up with pretty pink bows. If Bill Maher and Steven Colbert like it...YOU should too. No originality. No ability to think for yourselves. God forbid you step outside of the think tank box. CNN does it best. And you liberals all love CNN. Catch my drift?
By DiseaseDiocese (563), Riverhead on Apr 29, 19 6:10 AM
“If you want a presidential cover-up, Barr is your guy,” Brosnahan, now 85, told VICE News. “And I think we’ve already seen that.”
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 29, 19 7:19 AM
Cover-up of what??

There was no collision!

"Mr. Barr promised to obey Justice Department regulations for special counsel investigations, created by the Clinton administration in 1999"
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on May 2, 19 6:15 PM
I don’t like Bill Maher, I don’t watch cnn. It’s funny, you post far right talking points and think you are original. There’s nothing original about anything you say.heres one of your quotes, you think you are a wise man. “America hating, white people hating, Christian hating, men hating pieces of garbage. “ You are classic. Men hating, that led me to believe you are nothing but a frightened incel.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 29, 19 6:50 AM
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Official Trump 2020 Campaign Slogan Announced: "I don't stand by anything"
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 29, 19 11:19 AM
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This country ain't exactly for you.
Apr 29, 19 1:35 PM appended by themarlinspike
CUBA WOULD BE BERY BERY GOOD FOR YOU.
By themarlinspike (430), Northern Hemisphere on Apr 29, 19 1:35 PM
No, you're right. Apparently it's for racists and xenophobes these days.
By johnj (1011), Westhampton on Apr 29, 19 1:52 PM
Just look what is happening to Europe, No thank you john ! That is why you, the dems and the liberal media want to squash our second amendment rights.

Once again, No thank you john !
By Ditch Bum (840), Water Mill on Apr 29, 19 2:20 PM
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Turning in your legal gun(s) because you think there is too much gun violence is like getting a vasectomy because you think your neighbor has too many children.The cost of our weapons will be the blood spilled trying buy or take them. Americas 2nd Amendment rights are NOT for sale!!!
By They call me (2732), southampton on Apr 29, 19 2:25 PM
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Ditch and Bum: are you familiar with the definition of "straw man" or do I need to post it again?

Hey Marlin: This land is your land, this land is my land
From California to the New York island
From the Redwood Forest, to the gulf stream waters
This land was made for you and me
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 29, 19 2:28 PM
When did I say anything about guns? That's just you parroting your Fox News talking point of the day. Or maybe you're just a Russian trollbot. Either way, no thank you.
By johnj (1011), Westhampton on Apr 29, 19 2:43 PM
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Thoughts and prayers for your idiotic post.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on Apr 29, 19 2:44 PM
MOLON LABE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not one inch!!!!!!!
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on Apr 29, 19 7:10 PM
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The longer you persist in opposing sensible gun control, the more murders you are indirectly responsible for. Quite a bit of hypocrisy, the way y'all rant about abortion...
Apr 29, 19 8:39 PM appended by Mr. Z
And, stop ripping off ancient Greek culture to suit your agenda. It just makes you more pathetic and shows your ignorance. Ironically, you are quoting the leader of the strictest military state in a society where people effectively had almost no rights or personal freedom. Essentially, you're quoting a totalitarian, military dictator. Now do you see how dumb and f*****g ignorant you sound? Or is it too obtuse a concept?
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 29, 19 8:39 PM
WARNING

"Sensible"
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 29, 19 9:16 PM
NOT AN INCH IS RIGHT !

From our cold dead hands !
Apr 30, 19 12:05 AM appended by joe hampton
I send my support to the Gun Owners of America (GOA). They actually fight for the 2nd Amendment.
By joe hampton (3382), The Hamptons on Apr 30, 19 12:05 AM
If I can tolerate a catchy tune or two written by left winger Woody Guthrie, you can tolerate an historically significant statue of American General Robert E. Lee atop his bay stallion Traveller. It's easy if you try.
By themarlinspike (430), Northern Hemisphere on Apr 30, 19 9:18 AM
Quick quiz: who raised arms against the United States, Robert E. Lee or Woody Guthrie?

As I went walking that ribbon of highway
I saw above me the endless skyway
And saw below me that golden valley
This land was made for you and me
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 30, 19 9:29 AM
Equally offensive might be Guthrie's life long support of Russian communism, just like your own offensive stances. Got any more commie top ten hits from your own native land to share ?
Apr 30, 19 10:28 AM appended by themarlinspike
Today's socialist views are indeed equally offensive to violent insurrection, especially in the USA.
By themarlinspike (430), Northern Hemisphere on Apr 30, 19 10:28 AM
Socialist views are equally offensive to violent insurrection?

As I went walking I saw a sign there
And on the sign it said "No Trespassing."
But on the other side it didn't say nothing,
That side was made for you and me.
Apr 30, 19 10:39 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
You really think that private personal views are equivalent to violence against others? I suppose you're welcome to that view...
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 30, 19 10:39 AM
Seems to me most of the cold, dead hands belong to the innocent victims of gun violence.

CONservatives haven't balanced the budget and have inflated the national debt for over four decades.

Con artists and convicted felon party, indeed.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 30, 19 2:22 PM
How are DemocRATS any different to the point you're attempting to make?
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 30, 19 2:40 PM
Quick, show him the numbers of convicted politicians from either party again, Z.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 30, 19 3:08 PM
Still won't sink in. When has a GOP administration balanced a budget, or left a surplus to grow on? Name a GOP administration that reduced the deficit over the course of their term(s) in office in the last forty years. Here's a clue, you can't. The annual deficit was always greater than the first year in any GOP administration for fifty plus years. Tax and spend, eh?

Reagan tripled the debt. Bush 1.0 ballooned it, and raised taxes. Clinton reduced the deficit, and left a surplus. ...more
May 1, 19 12:39 AM appended by Mr. Z
*nearly EVERY year...
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on May 1, 19 12:39 AM
" Clinton reduced the deficit"

With a Republican Congress.

Power of the purse strings, right?
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on May 1, 19 9:46 AM
Yeah. Cling to that one off like it's normal, LMMFAO.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on May 1, 19 8:03 PM
Well if you're going to use it as a one off, why can't I?
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on May 2, 19 9:40 AM
48%: TRUMP OBAMA SHARE SAME APPROVAL AT THIS TIME IN PRESIDENCY...

Latest daily Presidential tracking poll - Monday, April 29, 2019

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that 48% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Forty-nine percent
By 27dan (2753), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 29, 19 2:09 PM
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Which poll? What do others say? What's the average?

43% approve, 52% disapprove.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 29, 19 5:40 PM
How about the poll which shines like a beacon to the white evangelical double standard when it comes to morality in their leaders?

It is to laugh...
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 29, 19 8:42 PM
POLL

76% of Democrats are deranged.

By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 29, 19 9:18 PM
You're familiar with the definition of ad hominem, right Po?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 30, 19 2:52 AM
@ Fore1gnBornHBgrown

A more enlightening question would be: "What do you think the definition of 'ad hominem' IS, Po Boy?"

In his lexicon, it may mean "substantive" (or whatever he wants it to mean in the circumstances [to be revealed in a subsequent justification.])
By highhatsize (4117), East Quogue on Apr 30, 19 7:46 AM
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Correction

POLL

78% of Democrats are deranged.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on Apr 30, 19 7:57 AM
I found the definition of insanity:

Democrats spent 2 years fighting “foreign involvement in our elections” then voted 228-197 in favor of allowing illegals to vote
By DiseaseDiocese (563), Riverhead on Apr 29, 19 9:53 PM
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@ DiseaseDiocese

Quote:

"Democrats ... voted 228-197 in favor of allowing illegals to vote"
------------------------------------

Now don't get upset, folks. Remember that DiseaseDiocese is a true believer. He's just lying* (AGAIN.)


* "Did U.S. House Democrats Pass a Bill to Allow Immigrants to Vote?
A major piece of voting-related legislation became the subject of confused, misleading scrutiny in March 2019. - - - Rating: FALSE" by Dan MacGuill ...more
By highhatsize (4117), East Quogue on Apr 30, 19 12:07 AM
About 3-in-4 American voters oppose a plan by socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) and other elected Democrats to allow convicted felons in local, state, and federal prisons to vote in federal elections from their jail cells, a new poll finds

The latest Business Insider/SurveyMonkey poll finds that about 75 percent of Americans, or three-in-four, oppose a plan by Democrats to allow all convicted felons, including those currently serving time in prison, to vote in federal elections.

Real ...more
By joe hampton (3382), The Hamptons on Apr 30, 19 12:22 AM
I agree, Joe: people who commit antisocial behavior willingly and affirmatively choose to remove themselves from society.

However, about 65% of Florida voters agree that rehabilitated ex-felons who have paid for their crimes should be allowed to vote.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 30, 19 2:56 AM
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Candace Owens from Twitter:

Can we all just take a moment to laugh at Joe Biden?
The man who WROTE the crime bill of 94’ which led to the mass incarceration of black men is now running because he’s worried about white supremacy. (Laughy face emoji)
Dear Joe: Trump just reversed your white supremacy with the #FirstStepAct

Hahahahahahaha!!!!
By DiseaseDiocese (563), Riverhead on Apr 30, 19 4:09 PM
Leave it to a "right winger" to take the crime bill out of historical context. Were there parts of it that failed? Yes. But look at the state of the country at the time. China white. Crack. Gangs. Police forces under equipped. For christ's sake NYC's 75th precinct had a log cover sheet on a clipboard that said “You give us 22 minutes, we’ll give you a homicide" during the late eighties and early nineties.

Truth be told, the stats you write of are just a bit more cultural ...more
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on Apr 30, 19 9:19 PM
Barr must resign or be impeached.
By June Bug (2486), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 30, 19 8:31 PM
Yeah right Z. Just admit already that the Democrat party is the real racist party. #Blexit
By DiseaseDiocese (563), Riverhead on Apr 30, 19 11:21 PM
If you were well enough informed, you'd know that back in the days referred to, police would find a homicide scene. On the way to investigate a homicide scene. Wasn't a pretty picture. But go ahead, and indulge in your fantasy world.

There is no excuse for ignorance in the Information Age.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on May 1, 19 12:09 AM
Junebug...Barr MUST resign or be impeached? Why is that? Oh I know why...liberal talking points. But here’s the real reason why:


BREAKING NEWS: FISA Court Says FBI Lied to Them, Illegally Spied

By MIKE HUCKABEE

April 25, 2019 •


On Wednesday night’s Ingraham Angle, there was a magnificent discussion about the sham Trump investigation with Rudy Giuliani, Joe diGenova and former Whitewater independent counsel Robert Ray that absolutely ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (563), Riverhead on May 1, 19 7:03 AM
Lies, lies, more lies, and gross incompetence. Just what any person with a reasonable modicum of intelligence has come to expect. In the first three months after the bill passed, the average weekly paycheck rose by $6.21. That would be $233 a year. 6% of the tax cut has gone to the average worker. How's about that $4,000 dollar annual raise now?

PATHETIC!


Published — April 30, 2019
THE SECRET SAGA OF TRUMP’S TAX CUTS

Flip-flops, falsehoods, fantasies ...more
May 1, 19 7:09 AM appended by Mr. Z
Typical CONservative fiscal policy: During a brief meeting that turned out to be the crux of the act's passage, the Senate’s most vociferous deficit hawk, Bob Corker of Tennessee (R), who wanted zero new debt, barely haggled with the Senate’s most strident supply-side economic cheerleader Pat Toomey (R) of Pennsylvania, who wanted to borrow $2.5tn to pay for the tax cuts. They agreed on borrowing $1.5tn over 10 years. The meeting concluded within 10 minutes. ****Note the "supply side" champ BORROWING to pay for tax cuts that will NOT pay for themselves as usual. CONservative policy for decades.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on May 1, 19 7:09 AM
@ DiseaseDiocese

Quote:

"BREAKING NEWS: FISA Court Says FBI Lied to Them, Illegally Spied

By MIKE HUCKABEE

April 25, 2019 •"
------------------------------------------------------------

A serious charge were it true - - - but it isn't. Huckabee referenced Joseph diGenova as his source. Mr. diGenova is a well-known conspiratiorialist who called James Comey a "Dirty Cop", advocated the firing of Rod Rosenstein, and accused Jeff Sessions of "betraying" ...more
By highhatsize (4117), East Quogue on May 1, 19 8:15 AM
But, isn't Mueller's Report, Mueller's Report??

You know what? - It doesn't matter what Mueller says now. and Rosenstein is GONE !

EVERYTHING BUT ARRESTING ALL OF THESE TREASONOUS S* BAGS AND SECURING OUR BORDERS, IS NOTHING, BUT A DISTRACTION.

Just more obstruction of justice by the political hack and sore loser Mueller.

LIVE FREE OR DIE
By They call me (2732), southampton on May 1, 19 9:20 AM
Why are you yelling? We're right here.

Anyway, that the person who conducted the investigation has issues with out a political appointee conveyed their conclusions is interesting to many, if not you.
May 1, 19 9:25 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Correction: with HOW a political appointee conveyed their conclusions
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on May 1, 19 9:25 AM
Is Barr is the political hack you referring to? Your post makes zero sense.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on May 1, 19 9:43 AM
^^^^^BECAUSE YOU DON'T LISTEN.^^^^^
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on May 1, 19 9:44 AM
No, I hear TCM when he says that he doesn't care what Mueller thinks about the characterization of his report.

I, along with many others, simply do care.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on May 1, 19 10:04 AM
I don’t listen to bs, 27dan is spewing it
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on May 1, 19 10:30 AM
Private payrolls surge by 275,000 in April, blowing past estimates and biggest gain since July! Fred Imbert CNBC
PUBLISHED AN HOUR AGO UPDATED 43 MIN AGO

Private payrolls grew by 275,000 last month, the biggest increase since July, when they expanded by 284,000.

Services-providing jobs increased by 223,000 in April, led by a gain of 59,000 jobs in professional and business services.

“The job market is holding firm, as businesses work hard to fill open positions,” ...more
May 1, 19 9:11 AM appended by 27dan
The U.S. economy added far more jobs than expected in April as payrolls in the services sector grew by the most in more than two years, according to data released by ADP and Moody’s Analytics on Wednesday.
By 27dan (2753), Shinnecock Hills on May 1, 19 9:11 AM
Still won't cover 5 trillion worth of debt.

Fiscal CONservatives borrowing to pay for tax cuts. Same old, same old...
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on May 1, 19 8:01 PM
@hihatsize

Attack the source with obscure and snooty vocabulary. Your MO. But what say you about Admiral Mike Rogers?
Also, what do you say about the crickets coming from the Brennan, Comey and Clapper camps?

Bottom line: Obama’s presidency SPIED on American people . And did it ILLEGALLY! Yates and her lap dog assistant AG knew about the illegally obtained FISA warrants and did NOTHING!! And don’t forget the Lisa Page’s text to her accomplice lover when she ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (563), Riverhead on May 1, 19 11:22 AM
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Who said the surveillance on the Trump campaign was illegal?

AG Barr: "I am not saying that improper surveillance occurred."
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on May 1, 19 11:35 AM
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Diseased, the reason you are not hearing about it because it’s made up bs. You can keep believing, then again you think trumps a great man.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on May 1, 19 12:27 PM
spy
/spī/
verb
gerund or present participle: spying

work for a government or other organization by secretly collecting information about enemies or competitors.
•observe (someone) furtively.

•discern or make out, especially by careful observation.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on May 1, 19 12:40 PM
I'd limit my own definition to "secretly collecting information" but I'm glad we can all see that "illegally" is not part of yours.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on May 1, 19 12:43 PM
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Conveniently forget all the Russian contacts, and that Russian nationals were renting space in Trump Tower?

Yes? Well, now you've been reminded. People like Vadim Trincher, Hillel “Helly” Nahmad, y'know just the usual criminal element found in many of Trump's dealings.

Do you need some Folger's in your cup?
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on May 1, 19 8:18 PM


Did you say "renting????"

Oh-my-GOD!
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on May 2, 19 6:06 PM
Hmmmmm...

How Russian Money Helped Save Trump’s Business
After his financial disasters two decades ago, no U.S. bank would touch him. Then foreign money began flowing in.

BY MICHAEL HIRSH | DECEMBER 21, 2018, 1:31 PM

“...he could not get anybody in the United States to lend him anything. It was all coming out of Russia. His involvement with Russia was deeper than he’s acknowledged.”

~ Alan Lapidus
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on May 1, 19 8:25 PM
And in 1992 what did then mere citizen Trump do that was illegal?

Hmmm?
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on May 2, 19 3:22 PM
That little Troll Sen. Mazie Hirono’s is an absolute disgrace, Sad. Just sad. This ignoramus is one of Hawaii's senators? Everything wrong with Congress (both houses) summed up in one moment. A disgrace to her office but no one comes close to the creepiness of Blumenthal. He's pure scum.

The whole clown car was performing, Corey, Nadler, Klobuchar, Nadless, endless parade of worthless sore loser politicians.

Hilary Clinton, destroyed evidence that was subpoenaed by the DOJ.

Why ...more
By They call me (2732), southampton on May 1, 19 9:55 PM
Barr did that just fine by himself with Iran-Contra. Kinda' makes you wonder. Who is the original "Slick Willie", eh?
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on May 1, 19 10:04 PM
Little troll? Very nice. It is nice to see the senators doing their job.so she called Barr on being a liar, good call. Trump lies so much you are lost in some parallel universe where being a liar is acceptable. I think you may be the ignoramus,being a liar is not acceptable.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on May 2, 19 5:24 AM
Oh, what tangled webs we weave. I’m going to just sit back, relax, and watch Barr go to work. Calls for his resignation start in one place and one place only. They start with the taking down of many parts of that tangled web. Those former FBI and CIA hacks better lawyer up soon. It’s coming...
By DiseaseDiocese (563), Riverhead on May 2, 19 5:02 AM
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BREAKING:

Mueller Report Condemns Trump, Barr in Denial
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on May 2, 19 6:49 AM
BREAKING:

How would Democrats know, none have gone to read the unredacted report

None of which that has any bearing on the fact there wasn’t enough evidence to charge any American with conspiring with Russians to influence the 2016 presidential election and that Justice Department guidelines prevented Mueller from reaching a legal conclusion on whether President Donald Trump obstructed Justice.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on May 2, 19 9:36 AM
Don't forget that Barr made a decision on obstruction without examining the underlying evidence identified in the report.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on May 2, 19 9:39 AM
Not without a lack of trying. That's where you come up short. not enough evidence to charge, but plenty of evidence they made a grossly incompetent attempt at it.

By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on May 2, 19 9:42 AM
Yes, and the decision was to take Mueller’s written report as the evidence itself.

Two years of reviewing "evidence" with no definitive conclusion on obstuction IS the evidence.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on May 2, 19 3:16 PM
I'm not saying there's a world in which I'd expect the AG to indict the president who appointed them, I'd just expect him to at least pretend to undertake some kind of due diligence before landing at the obvious politically-motivated conclusion.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on May 2, 19 3:20 PM
Your application and expectation of due diligence is notably hypocritical.

That said, why would Barr question the findings of a two year, $25.2 million investigation, nearly 500 witnesses, 19 lawyers, 675 days, 2,800 subpoenas, 500 search warrants, 230 orders for communication records. where a 400+ page report was issued?
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on May 2, 19 3:35 PM
Are you asking why a supervisor should review their underling's findings rather than take their findings for granted?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on May 2, 19 3:53 PM
Are you suggesting the 19 seasoned veterian lawyers and veteran Bob Mueller were somehow incompetent and needing to be micromanaged and that the 130 Democrat lawmakers who called for the special counsel were wrong in their approach?
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on May 2, 19 6:04 PM
Does an underling have to be incompetent for a supervisor to review their work?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on May 2, 19 7:26 PM
Collusion YES. Criminal conspiracy? No.

Obstruction? HELL YES. But, it's not up to the DOJ via policy. It's up to Congress.

Is it just me, or does easily 2/3 of the country need a severe crash course in civics?
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on May 2, 19 8:35 PM
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Wouldn't that give the impression of impropriety, thereby dismissing the statements in the report as the actual record - a standard practice in investigations - just as Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein didn't review it, not staffers in his executive office?

By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on May 6, 19 12:15 PM
So now it's not just unnecessary, but it would be "improper" to review not just the record but the underlying evidence?

If you say so, Po.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on May 6, 19 12:22 PM
So. I also said, two years of reviewing evidence is the evidence.

What I didn't say was "unnecessary" or "improper," but would that it would have been viewed as improper and not the norm.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on May 6, 19 1:08 PM
If you're saying that Barr should rely 100% on Mueller's report, aren't you also saying that review of the underlying evidence is unnecessary?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on May 6, 19 1:13 PM
Did I say it was unnecessary, or was that you?

Aren't I simply saying not reviewing the underlying evidence identified in the report is normal and there is zero negative innuendo attached?

If fact, had he reviewed the underlying evidence wouldn't you people then attack him for that?
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on May 6, 19 2:13 PM
I certainly wouldn't attack him for demonstrating due diligence, but I only speak for myself.

By the way, if you re-read your own comment it's pretty obvious that you're saying review of the underlying evidence is unnecessary, even if you're not using the word.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on May 6, 19 2:50 PM
Which underlying evidence?
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on May 13, 19 8:53 PM
I like your predictions, coming from your distorted political mind. It’s nice knowing you are mostly wrong. Give up mind reading, you are failing miserably.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on May 2, 19 5:19 AM
The fact is, Mueller declined to review the Barr report before it was released. The only reason to do that was to then have the opportunity to politicize it by claiming that it was "insufficient". He would have said this no matter what Barr put in his report. Mueller is a political hack.

Robert Mueller failed to frame President Trump.
By They call me (2732), southampton on May 2, 19 8:09 AM
Your post is not fact based, your opinion is reaching, reaching for a Emily glass of water. Mueller led a decent life dedicated to our country, can you say the same about trump?
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on May 2, 19 9:42 AM
DOJ can't indict a sitting president.

Plenty of evidence for Congress to do so, but the GOP controlled Senate would never convict. So, there you have it. Barr is full of shift, and his integrity has been compromised since Iran-Contra.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on May 2, 19 1:51 PM
We all look forward to it. Just for different reasons.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on May 2, 19 3:13 PM
House Democrats and their allies in the media are trying to discredit Barr. Not because of the Mueller report, but because they know what's coming. Crazy Mazie and Mad Maxine lol
By Ditch Bum (840), Water Mill on May 2, 19 8:12 AM

“If you want a presidential cover-up, Barr is your guy,” Brosnahan, now 85, told VICE News. “And I think we’ve already seen that.”

Pretty much sums it up.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on May 2, 19 1:45 PM
What's to cover up?

Bob said there was no collusion.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on May 2, 19 3:11 PM
No, he said there was no conspiracy which is a crime. There were a plethora of incompetent, actually grossly incompetent attempts at collusion, and a member of campaign leadership sharing polling data with a Russian national.

Fortunately for team Trump, stupidity and incompetence is not a crime.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on May 2, 19 5:21 PM
Oh, "no conspiracy which is a crime."

Thats what Rudy Guilliani said months ago, wasn't it?
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on May 2, 19 5:56 PM
Same old GOP spin. It's immoral, it's unethical, but technically it's not illegal.

Still makes you a criminal, if not in the eyes of the law on paper, but in the eyes of anyone with a decent ethos.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on May 2, 19 8:32 PM
Is it immoral...is it unethical....?

Says who?

Pardon the observation, but Democrats aren't exactly on the side of righteousness - criminal or decent ethos.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on May 3, 19 1:20 PM
Ditch bum, just a comment on your avatar, it makes you look foolish, if that’s possible. As to your comment, you don’t have a clue.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on May 2, 19 9:40 AM
The TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME seems terminal with our alt left sycophants here. Sucks to be a Democrat these days.
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on May 2, 19 2:26 PM
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Better than supporting the party of 89 convicted felons under presidential administrations.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on May 2, 19 5:24 PM
Why since 1969?
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on May 2, 19 5:54 PM
Modern Age.

If you go back to the "flip flop" of the parties when the Dixiecrats went over to the GOP, it gets worse. Just trying to save the GOP some face.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on May 2, 19 8:29 PM
House and Senate Vote Tally for the Civil Rights Act 1964

Democrats: House 153 out of 244 = 63%
Republicans: House 136 out of 171 = 80%
Democrats: Senate 46 out of 67 = 69%
Republicans: Senate 27 out of 33 = 82%

By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on May 3, 19 10:56 AM
Hey Po, what year did the Dixiecrats start jumping ship? Makes your post irrelevant.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on May 3, 19 11:15 AM
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Po feels that the southern strategy is not a real thing, but facts don't care about his feelings.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on May 3, 19 11:37 AM
Po believes that the flip-flop is not a real thing, and facts support the belief. It's nothing more than an early version of the Democrat slight of hand perfected present day. It sounds good and all, until you start peeling back the layers to expose the stench that it is.

Feelings are reserved for democrats. Whatever they are accusing you of, they are guilty; from arguing with emotion right on to Russian collusion.

The answer Fred: Southern Democrats...in 1948. It makes the reference ...more
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on May 3, 19 1:16 PM
Southern Democrats voted nay on the Civil Rights Act. Strom Thurmond filibustered against it. Thurmond once a Democrat, changed to Republican.
By Mets fan (1466), Southampton on May 3, 19 1:38 PM
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They fled the Democratic Party , they weren’t for the civil rights act.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on May 3, 19 1:43 PM
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Like the Mets and Fred pointed out, the southern strategy as well as its intents and successes are well-documented.

I know you feel differently Po, but...well, you know what facts don't care about.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on May 3, 19 3:19 PM
Of the known Dixiecrats, only three switched parties becoming Republicans: Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms and Mills E. Godwin, Jr.

Democrats: House 153 out of 244 = 63% against the civil rights act
Democrats: Senate 46 out of 67 = 69% against the civil rights act



By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on May 6, 19 12:06 PM
From The Guardian.......In this case, it becomes clear that Democrats in the north and the south were more likely to vote for the bill than Republicans in the north and south respectively. This difference in both houses is statistically significant with over 95% confidence. It just so happened southerners made up a larger percentage of the Democratic than Republican caucus, which created the initial impression than Republicans were more in favor of the act.
May 6, 19 12:23 PM appended by Fred s
The conclusion of the article...Today, the transformation is nearly complete. President Obama carried only 18% of former Confederate states, while taking 62% of non-Confederate states in 2012. Only 27% of southern senators are Democrats, while 62% of Union state senators are Democrats. And 29% of southern members in the House are Democrats compared to 54% in states or territories that were part of the Union. Thus, it seems to me that minorities have a pretty good idea of what they are doing when joining the Democratic party. They recognize that the Democratic party of today looks and sounds a lot more like the Democratic party of the North that with near unity passed the Civil Rights Bill of 1964 than the southern Democrats of the era who blocked it, and today would, like Strom Thurmond, likely be Republicans.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on May 6, 19 12:23 PM
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As one of the commenters of the article put it... "This article is flush with creativity and imagination."
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on May 6, 19 12:56 PM
100% correct fresh. And the hits keep coming:

NYT: New Details Emerge About Connection Of Bidens To Ukrainian Corruption Scandal




By JAMES BARRETT
May 2, 2019
In a report highlighted by President Trump Wednesday, The New York Times provides new details that have emerged about Hunter Biden’s connection to a Ukrainian political corruption scandal as the government has reopened an investigation into a company which once paid Hunter as much as $50,000 a ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (563), Riverhead on May 2, 19 4:06 PM
Imagine that, the NYT printing something unfavorable to a Democrat Party candidate for President! Creepy Joe must not be the choice of the far left and the smear machine is fired up.
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on May 2, 19 4:52 PM
I like the way you two lean on a NYT article to back up your rhetoric. In many posts you two harangue the times as fake, now it’s legitimate? You two are like a dog with two tails, you never know what way to turn to chase your own tail. Bf, Stick to parroting rush , don’t let your delusions out.diseased, we need more right wing parody’s you post from YouTube.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on May 2, 19 5:01 PM
Nice try Bitter Freddy, my point is that the NYT is the mouthpiece for the hard left and they have thrown Biden under the bus, irony , get it? Keerist you're either incredibly dense or willfully ignorant. IMHO the Times is a freaking rag , not worth the paper it's printed on but the Party faithful treat it as Gospel.
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on May 2, 19 6:04 PM
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"NYT is the mouthpiece for the hard left" lol, you crack me up.

If they endorse Bernie Sanders or Andrew Yang I'll believe you.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on May 2, 19 7:27 PM
Genius, it’s called reporting. That’s what reporters do. You are a clown.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on May 2, 19 7:31 PM
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Vulture capitalism takes out Remington. Load up a corporate acquisition with unsustainable debt. Take a ridiculous unsustainable salary. Declare bankruptcy, f*** over everyone but the vultures. You can't make this shiat up.

Oh, the irony...

How America’s Oldest Gun Maker Went Bankrupt: A Financial Engineering Mystery

When a secretive private equity firm bought Remington, sales were strong and the future bright. A decade later, the company couldn’t escape ...more
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on May 2, 19 8:39 PM
They went bankrupt because quality diminished and the closed knit firearms community knew it.
May 3, 19 10:49 AM appended by Po Boy
That's not irony. That IS capitalism.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on May 3, 19 10:49 AM
Uhhhh, no. LMAO.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on May 4, 19 6:19 PM
They are scared witless of Barr. Good. They should be.
By They call me (2732), southampton on May 3, 19 8:41 AM
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Who is "they"?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on May 3, 19 8:50 AM
You people.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on May 3, 19 10:47 AM
Why would I be scared of Barr and from what evidence do you draw that conclusion?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on May 3, 19 11:41 AM
We know spying on the Trump campaign occurred....so question remains, what did Obama know, when did he know it and who approved it.

"potus wants to know everything we’re doing."
~ Text message between disgraced FBI employees Strzok and Page
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on May 3, 19 1:25 PM
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Sure, but why would I be scared of Barr?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on May 3, 19 2:56 PM
We know spying on the Trump campaign occurred....so question remains, what did Obama know, when did he know it and who approved it.

"potus wants to know everything we’re doing."
~ Text message between disgraced FBI employees Strzok and Page
By Po Boy (3939), Water Mill on May 3, 19 1:25 PM
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on May 6, 19 9:27 AM
Lay down with dogs, get fleas.

What you call spying was surveillance due to Russian contact with Trump. Not only with the campaign, but on his property as well.

Get over it.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on May 6, 19 9:51 AM
AG Barr: "I am not saying that improper surveillance occurred."

Well, until he says otherwise I'm going to continue believing what he said the first time.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on May 6, 19 10:54 AM
AG Barr: “I believe there is a basis for my concern, but I’m not going to discuss the basis.”

The attention span and focus of a labradoodle.
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on May 6, 19 11:39 AM
Well when he discusses the basis, or does something about it, let me know.

Till then, it's pure innuendo and conjecture.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on May 6, 19 11:47 AM
Which is it...

When he says otherwise or when he discussed the basis for it?
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on May 6, 19 11:54 AM
Those scenarios sound synonymous to me, but also why would I have to pick just one of them?

If he says otherwise, or discusses the basis for it, or does something about it...let me know!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on May 6, 19 12:09 PM
Well, until he says otherwise I'm going to continue believing what he said the first time.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6318), HAMPTON BAYS on May 6, 19 10:54 AM

Why would dismiss the latter statement while embracing the first?
He said otherwise, didn't he?
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on May 6, 19 1:12 PM
Do you think he's contradicting himself?

I don't, and actually think the two statements are completely consistent with each other.

1. he's not saying improper spying occurred, and
2. he has a basis to believe it might have but is unwilling to discuss it.

Well, then let me know when he DOES say that improper spying occurred or when he IS willing to discuss his basis for believing it might have.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on May 6, 19 1:17 PM
3. He said otherwise
By Po Boy (4637), Water Mill on May 6, 19 2:07 PM
So you think the two statements are contradictory? I disagree.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on May 6, 19 2:49 PM
Maybe Trump should’ve bailed out Remington. Could you imagine the meltdown on the left?

Yikes!
By DiseaseDiocese (563), Riverhead on May 3, 19 10:55 AM
Go read the article diseased, it’s a classic story.
By Fred s (2868), Southampton on May 3, 19 3:21 PM
Obviously he didn't.

And probably won't. It's just easier to live in your own fantasy.
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on May 3, 19 4:12 PM
DEMOCRATS ATTEMPT TO RIG 2020 ELECTION WITH SOCIAL MEDIA CENSORSHIP
Facebook purge of conservative voices ahead of 2020 election purely political Infowars.com - MAY 3, 2019
By They call me (2732), southampton on May 3, 19 5:08 PM
"The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion. Evidence of Russian government operations began to surface in mid-2016. In June, the Democratic National Committee and its cyber response team publicly announced that Russian hackers had compromised its computer network. Releases of hacked materials-hacks that public reporting soon attributed to the Russian government-began that same month. Additional releases followed in July through the organization ...more
By Mr. Z (11483), North Sea on May 4, 19 6:58 AM
And who was president during this time? Barak Hussein Obama!!! The buck stops with Him! As to "social media" , who in their right mind makes the decision on whom to vote for in a presidential election using Fakebook? Face it, Clinton was one of the only candidates that could have lost to Donald Trump and the Democrat Party rigged the primaries to get her on the ballot, that's the scandal!
By bigfresh (4491), north sea on May 4, 19 7:16 AM
If facebook isn't a valuable resource to distribute information and persuade people, why is POTUS mad that Alex Jones got kicked off?

If any party-member doesn't like how their chosen party chooses their preferred candidate, they are welcome to start their own party.
May 4, 19 8:10 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
I don't get what you mean by evaporative HHS.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7302), HAMPTON BAYS on May 4, 19 8:10 AM
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