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Jan 20, 2014 12:14 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

UPDATE: Snow Totals Vary, Heavier West Of Canal

Jan 22, 2014 12:40 PM

UPDATE, 9:56 a.m.:

East Hampton Village Hall and East Hampton Town Hall are both closed, and East Hampton Village has declared a state of emergency.

According to East Hampton Town Police Chief Michael Sarlo, the department has responded to eight car accidents, most of which occurred in the early afternoon on Tuesday. Fortunately, there were no major incidents or injuries, he said.

"The roads are improving," he said. "Most of the main roadways are passable, but as always, we request that you do not go out and drive unless it is an absolute necessity so that snow plows can work safely and quickly."

He said he expects a lot of traffic, however, because schools are closed and so a lot of children and their parents will be heading out to go sledding.

"We ask that everyone use caution and make sure vehicles are not parked impeding the pathways of the plows," he said.

He added that the department is working on a call in Springs where an elderly man was found unconscious and not breathing in the snow near his home. He said the man was discovered at 7:35 this morning by a snow plow driver.

UPDATE, 9:35 a.m.:

Snowfall totals throughout the East End varied overnight, with less snow accumulating in areas east of the Shinnecock Canal than other parts of the island.

The National Weather Service Spotter Reports, compiled by both professional and amateur weather spotters, report totals of 10 inches in Hampton Bays, Riverhead and Flanders, and 9.5 inches in Eastport. The hardest hit parts of Suffolk County were Selden and Babylon, each reporting 14.5 inches, the highest amounts in the state.

Further east, despite initial warnings from the weather service that snow would be falling heaviest there, Press reporters have estimated totals of 6 inches at most in the areas of Springs and Wainscott.

UPDATE: Wednesday, 7 a.m.

Eastern Long Islanders woke up to more than a foot of snow on the ground, with heavy drifting in certain areas, and frigid temperatures.

Officials warned of a difficult commute Wednesday morning due to the temperatures and blowing and drifting snows.

Light snow was expected to continue through noon, but a winter storm warning was extended to 9 a.m.

Temperatures remained in the teens, but wind chill made the air feel like negative temperatures.

Most school districts were closed on Wednesday, check individual school websites for more information.

UPDATE, 6:18 p.m.

Multiple East End school districts have already reported being closed for the day tomorrow due to the snow accumulation and road conditions, including the Southampton, East Hampton, Montauk, and Springs school districts. Check individual district websites for more information.

UPDATE, 4:58 p.m.:

According to East Hampton Town Emergency Preparedness Coordinator Bruce Bates, significant snowfall is expected to impact East Hampton until early Wednesday morning. He said highway department workers would be busy at work Tuesday evening and Wednesday morning and ready to assist the fire departments and EMS agencies should the need arise.

"Our emergency preparedness personnel are monitoring this storm and will have warming centers, or shelters available if power failures occur," he said.

Residents are urged to avoid any unnecessary travel and not park their cars on roadways. The East Hampton and Montauk Senior Centers will be closed on Wednesday.

All emergencies should be reported to 911; non-emergency questions should be directed to 537-7575.

UPDATE, 4:55 p.m.

Although multiple accidents have been witnessed and reported by Southampton Press staff, a dispatcher for The Southampton Town Police said there have been very few accidents overall and "there haven't been any in a while."

Despite the lack of reported accidents, town police are urging people to stay off the roads if at all possible to allow for emergency personnel and road cleanup crews.

A duty sergeant wasn't immediately available for comment.

UPDATE, 4:31 p.m.

A meteorologist with the National Weather Service, Joey Picca, said that the snowfall will be heaviest from now until about midnight tonight, diminishing in intensity into the morning.

Mr. Picca warned that although the snow should taper off, the winds will still be in the 20-25 mile-per-hour range tomorrow morning, making for dangerous driving conditions.

"There will still be a lot of blowing and drifting of snow tomorrow morning," he said. "It'll be hazardous driving conditions. The snow is light and powdery, which we expected, and it is really easy to shovel, but it is all the more dangerous on the roads because it will be so hard to see."

Mr. Picca predicted the East End has about 3-5 inches of snow at the present time, and stuck with the original estimate of about 8-14 inches total.

"We have near-blizzard conditions, but not quite a blizzard because the winds aren't strong enough," Mr. Picca added.

UPDATE, 3:05 p.m.

Southampton Town Supervisor Anna Throne-Holst will declare a snow emergency in the town within the hour. With more than 10 inches of snow forecast to fall on the East End overnight on Tuesday, the emergency declaration will clear town highway crews to clear private roads to make way for emergency vehicles.

UPDATE, 2:47 p.m.:

The East Hampton Town Zoning Board of Appeals meeting that was scheduled for Tuesday night has been canceled because of the snow.

Additionally, the East Hampton School District has canceled afternoon BOCES classes, its board of education meeting, its SAT prep class and all after-school activities.

East Hampton High School and Middle School, the Springs School, the Montauk School, and Amagansett School all had early dismissal this afternoon and have also canceled all after school programs.

UPDATE: 1:15 p.m. Tuesday

All Southampton Town facilities were scheduled to close at 2 p.m. on Tuesday and remain closed until noon on Wednesday.

The Landmarks and Historic Districts Board meeting scheduled for Tuesday evening was rescheduled to January 29. The Southampton Town Trustees meeting scheduled for 1 p.m. on Wednesday was rescheduled to Monday, January 27, at 1 p.m.

Sag Harbor Village has also canceled a much anticipated Zoning Board of Appeals meeting, with the decision for the Harbor Heights service station now slated for February 18.

Check the Southampton Town website for more updates as the storm progresses.

Many area schools were set to dismiss classes early on Tuesday and close on Wednesday. Check with individual schools for closings.

UPDATE: 4:30 p.m.

Forecasters are now calling for between 10 and 14 inches of snow on Eastern Long Island on Tuesday. Snowfall will begin late Tuesday morning and will continue through Tuesday night, tapering off early Wednesday morning, according to the National Weather Service. The heaviest snowfall will occur Tuesday afternoon and evening.

Original Story:

The National Weather Service has issued a winter storm watch for all of Long Island, warning of an anticipated snow accumulation of 4 to 8 inches on Tuesday afternoon and evening.

The winter storm watch, which warns of higher snow totals on the East End than the rest of the island, will remain in effect until late Tuesday night. The snow is expected to start late Tuesday morning and remain heavy throughout the day.

The weather service predicts temperatures around 20 degrees Fahrenheit during the day and in the single digits overnight, with winds between 15 and 25 mph and gusts reaching 30 mph.

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Unlike last storm--no rain and 50 degree weather to wash it away two days later.
By aging hipster (201), Southampton on Jan 20, 14 12:42 PM
Whatever your into hipster, I'll take crusing down A1A on my Dyna and a beer at the inlet... Live and let Live... Enjoy
Jan 20, 14 1:01 PM appended by joe hampton
I should not assume you are a snow worshiper your post could be taken several ways ;)
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Jan 20, 14 1:01 PM
The NWS forecast for eastern LI and Cape Cod has just been raised to 10-14" .


By PBR (4956), Southampton on Jan 20, 14 4:30 PM
The band of 10-14" snow has moved north a bit, and now includes southeastern PA and central NJ. Montauk is back down to 8-10" (link above).

By PBR (4956), Southampton on Jan 21, 14 5:11 AM
Interesting, eastern Cape Cod just got bumped up to 14-18" .
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Jan 21, 14 11:13 AM
We are screwed thought just maybe we could get through one winter without snow damage, wishful thinking i suppose, i hate living here in the winter
By Erin 27 E (1281), southampton on Jan 20, 14 5:21 PM

enjoy the seasons
all the more reason to be grateful when warmer weather hits
By llimretaw (118), watermill on Jan 31, 14 8:45 PM
The timing of this storm isn't working for me. Can we postpone it?
By double standard (1506), Remsenburg on Jan 20, 14 5:56 PM
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Come on.

Snowmen, igloos, sculptures, snowball fights, tubing, sledding, skitching, tongues and flag poles, frozen soap bubbles, etc; what's not to love?
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jan 21, 14 2:37 AM
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The storm center is forecast to go south of us, setting up a Nor'easter scenario with northerly winds for the next 24 hours. High tide at Fort Pond Montauk is at noon and midnight; Lazy Point may see some flooding overnight IMO.
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Jan 21, 14 5:16 AM
There is a gale warning for tonight, with winds of 30 knots to 45 knots in gusts, and strong winds are predicted to continue through Saturday (switching more to the W and SW as the system moves offshore).
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Jan 21, 14 5:49 AM
Hopefully the Town actually does some sanding and salting this time! Maybe they can plow BOTH sides of my street too? Plenty of lead time.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jan 21, 14 7:59 AM
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salting with these temps is useless
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Jan 21, 14 9:20 AM
Nature do you know what the new more liquid salting procedure uses for a solution? I heard a rumor that it was related to certain fracking materials. Beet juice? Thanks.
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Jan 21, 14 10:45 AM
As far as I know it's simply brine. Sodium chloride and water....

They also use magnesium chloride which is extracted from brine (from the Great Salt Lake for example). Magnesium Chloride is sometimes sprayed in a liquid form ontop of salt being spread to help it stick to the road surface. I believe the DOT tries to use brine when it can because it's cheaper (see figures below for evidence of this)

Annual materials usage on NYSDOT's highways (2012 - 2013):

Salt 754,000 ...more
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Jan 21, 14 11:28 AM
Thanks, interesting that some road dept's are experimenting, in line with your comment that plain old salt does not work at low temps.

"A splash of beet juice, a dollop of molasses, a squeeze of cheese brine. In the coldest weather, the recipe for safer roads often goes beyond the usual sprinkling of salt."

[NY Post of 1/7/14 re: Buffalo NY]
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Jan 21, 14 11:35 AM
The NYS Thruway Authority has a pilot program which uses beet juice, per press release on 12/18/12.
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Jan 21, 14 11:39 AM
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Jan 21, 14 11:39 AM
Where do those little dark-eyed juncos hide when it's not snowing? Do they go into hibernation or something? I only see them in my yard zipping around like Norelco elves when there's snow on the ground.
By btdt (449), water mill on Jan 21, 14 12:27 PM
They hide out in bushes/shrubs/thickets mostly. You notice them after it snows because a) it's harder for them to find food so they become more active and b) it's very easy to notice them against a white backdrop - not so easy to notice them against a grey/brown backdrop
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Jan 21, 14 12:55 PM
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Jan 21, 14 1:36 PM
I know a little about a lot - or is it a lot about a little?
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Jan 21, 14 2:32 PM
See Dilbert for implication of thimble terminology.
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Jan 21, 14 7:16 PM
I'm aware of the reference... I was being snarky. (See dictionary for implication of snarky)
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Jan 21, 14 7:33 PM
Sometimes I wonder how much of what is "stocked up" goes to waste...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jan 21, 14 1:46 PM
Plows still work! In this cold:/ haven't seen any in East Hampton Town
By LeeKingston (2), on Jan 21, 14 4:48 PM
Oh wait it's after 3 they probably went home already
By LeeKingston (2), on Jan 21, 14 4:50 PM
Come on now.... Went home LOL these are union guys, They live for this... they are just waiting till after 5 so they can get double time and night time differential. Then they will plow till the pavement comes up in the blade
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Jan 21, 14 4:59 PM
The heaviest bands of snow appear to be staying north of the East End. The recent NWS graphic forecast for Montauk snow is still just 8-10" (link above). Strong NE winds resulted in recent low at Fort Pond being 1' above normal, with the high tide after midnight likely to be 1-2' above normal IMO.

The projected snow for Cape Cod was just reduced to 10-14" down from 14-18" (link above).

By PBR (4956), Southampton on Jan 21, 14 7:15 PM
This is the second time in a month that NEWS12 predicted the storm would start later in the afternoon. It was snowing when I woke up. Kids went off to school and people went off to work thinking the snow that was falling must be some kind of freak flurries. I was hearing the NEWS12 forecaster telling us that the heavy snow would start around 3 pm, lighten up a bit and then become heavy again at 6pm while as it was snowing heavily at 11:30 am. Do they not have windows? As soon as the storm hit it ...more
By btdt (449), water mill on Jan 21, 14 8:40 PM
Sorry, my auto correct thinks traffic jams are traffic jeans. I know some people jam themselves into their jeans, but hopefully they don't have a lot of traffic in their jeans.
By btdt (449), water mill on Jan 21, 14 8:43 PM
Good points all, esp. the end one . . .
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Jan 21, 14 9:30 PM
Everything in Newsday and on News 12 was based on National Weather Service and what gets reported out of Upton. The in-house meteorologists at News 12 aren't making it up as they go along, they're going along with what is being said by the feds. I'm not trying to excuse anyone - but perhaps we should stop putting 100% faith into a forecast (it's called that for a reason) and start determining what our personal needs/plans are (and by our I'm referring to individuals, businesses, schools etc.).
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Jan 21, 14 10:16 PM
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I kept my child home from school because when it's snowing out already, a big storm is predicted and it's 22 degrees outside, I don't want him in a bus on the slippery roadways. But it's different for people who work outside the home. If the businesses keep listening to local reports and open the workplaces, the workers have to go. A relative of mine was seriously injured on his way to work in snow a few years ago (and his 10+ year old vehicle totaled, causing financial hardship). Today, I called ...more
By btdt (449), water mill on Jan 22, 14 12:44 AM
Interactive map of snowfall totals -- 15" in central NJ so far -- 7.5" in Orient.


See also:

By PBR (4956), Southampton on Jan 21, 14 10:21 PM
Amazing how much moisture is still streaming up the east coast from Cape Hatteras to Montauk Point and Cape Cod, but it may stay offshore of us as the jet stream pushes it further east. Snowfall totals seem lighter than the NWS forecasts (links above). Recent Montauk high tide was about 1.3' above normal.



By PBR (4956), Southampton on Jan 22, 14 3:31 AM
At the automated weather station in BH, which replaces the Cooperative Observer Richard Hendrickson's dedicated reporting for many many decades (!), the temp. continues to drop, and is now 10.5 degrees Farhenheit:

By PBR (4956), Southampton on Jan 22, 14 8:02 AM
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Jan 22, 14 8:03 AM

Below is a link for an interesting article in the National Weather Journal from 1917 about temperature readings from Mecox by Ernest S. Clowes. Quite a read from simpler times . . .
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Jan 22, 14 8:06 AM
This appears to be an official government document, otherwise unavailable except perhaps in the National Archives or Smithsonian?

By PBR (4956), Southampton on Jan 22, 14 8:08 AM
Has anyone seen a Town plow yet??!! No signs of life in my neck of the woods.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jan 22, 14 8:41 AM
Noyac Road is OK
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Jan 22, 14 10:15 AM
Long Beach Road and Sag Harbor fine.
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Jan 22, 14 11:07 AM
Remember being a kid and waking up to a snow day? Next to Christmas it was the greatest thing. Enjoy!
By double standard (1506), Remsenburg on Jan 22, 14 11:08 AM
My kids were jumping up and down with excitement.
Jan 22, 14 1:33 PM appended by dnice
My wife, not so much.
By dnice (2346), Hampton Bays on Jan 22, 14 1:33 PM
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The town's roads seem to be well plowed. The village of Southampton is another story. Hampton Road was a mess still by mid afternoon. Main Street hadn't been properly cleared. Delivery trucks were parallel parked in sloppily banked up snow that should have been removed first thing in the morning.
By moonpie (43), Southampton on Jan 22, 14 5:49 PM
The overnight low at the NWS Bridgehampton weather station was 8 F. The charts here, which also show wind data, update in real time:

By PBR (4956), Southampton on Jan 23, 14 5:50 AM
Interesting graph of the BH temperature for the last 7 days, showing a high of 47.5 F, and the recent low of 8.

By PBR (4956), Southampton on Jan 23, 14 6:00 AM
Town plows cleaning up Scuttlehole Rd. early. Well done.
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Jan 23, 14 8:00 AM